Why so much in-game racism?

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

I've been called boring and unoriginal for playing the standard human race so... Everyone gets it.

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I play Hyur too. I also played Hume in FFXI. Haters are gonna hate. Yours looks great by the way.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Okay, and that's true. But you're not considering what I keep telling you.

To me, the issue isn't that people make stupid comments. You can easily make a stupid comment about me being a Hrothgar and say something that's annoying (but true) like how I'm using a face similar to 90% of all Hrothgar. And you could be unpleasant about it. It wouldn't bother me. Not only bc it's true, but also because it's minor in comparison to being called zoophile.

The issue is that this community used to not tolerate that sort of crap. Jokes were thrown around, sure, and it was whatever. But it was rarely this malicious, and when it happened, people wouldn't let that slide. There'd be a push-back against that sort of thing and people would rather promote cohesion and acceptance than anything else. Even among races that were least liked you still had people include them in groups. Now you actively have people excluding races and calling them really garbage crap.

Also, this isn't twitter nor facebook. We're not social media. We're a game community, for whatever that's worth. Call me naïve, but idk, to me this group had standards. They were just dropped all over the floor.

Comments like being called boring and stuff like that aren't that bad, even if they're unpleasant. Plus, odds are, it's got to do with whether a person likes something or not, and if they don't like your options, just shrug it off. They probably are ratchet themselves. But what, now we should also be okay with people being especially garbage to, idk, Lalafell, just because "lmao it's the internet get used to it"?

Ok cool. Yo Lalafell players, y'all are pedos for playing that race, the hell's wrong with you? /qed

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Call people out if they're being toxic towards someone for the race that they play. Also can report them. If they're ultimately banned they won't have anything to say and and cry about not being able to play the game anymore.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Well, it doesn't help their case when furries flock to the race. You can make the argument of "#notall_____" but stereotypes occur for a reason, it's not a sudden thing. It would be like getting mad when people call twitch streamers groomers. It's not a 100% mark but when you can blindly throw a dart at a dartboard of 50 or so twitch streamers and get more groomers than good boi streamers then that's just noticing a pattern, lol.

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Generalizing people based on the race that they play is bad. Your comment is adding to the negativity.

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Originally Posted by Leifei

I play Hyur too. I also played Hume in FFXI. Haters are gonna hate. Yours looks great by the way.

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All races are beautiful and unique in their own way. Lalas are cute and humans are the classic, you can’t really go wrong with them, they are very transformable if that makes sense.
I play Viera because I love their attachment to nature, they are gorgeous and have legs for days but I remember at the beginning they got a lot of hate, I don’t think there’s any race in ffxiv that doesn’t get hate, some more than others.
If people try hard they will always find something to complain about or hate.
I can understand light banter but not actual mean spirited comments.

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

All races are beautiful and unique in their own way. Lalas are cute and humans are the classic, you can’t really go wrong with them, they are very transformable if that makes sense.
I play Viera because I love their attachment to nature, they are gorgeous and have legs for days but I remember at the beginning they got a lot of hate, I don’t think there’s any race in ffxiv that doesn’t get hate, some more than others.
If people try hard they will always find something to complain about or hate.
I can understand light banter but not actual mean spirited comments.

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Oh, I completely agree. :D

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Originally Posted by Leifei

Call people out if they're being toxic towards someone for the race that they play. Also can report them. If they're ultimately banned they won't have anything to say and and cry about not being able to play the game anymore.

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Editing this bc I was basically just repeating myself over and over the past posts and it's honestly getting irritating xwx

TLDR: Yes, you're right, 100%, stop being malicious people, and don't let people feel alone when someone talks about their nasty experiences in-game \o/

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

All races are beautiful and unique in their own way. Lalas are cute and humans are the classic, you can’t really go wrong with them, they are very transformable if that makes sense.
I play Viera because I love their attachment to nature, they are gorgeous and have legs for days but I remember at the beginning they got a lot of hate, I don’t think there’s any race in ffxiv that doesn’t get hate, some more than others.
If people try hard they will always find something to complain about or hate.
I can understand light banter but not actual mean spirited comments.

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imo Vieras need a lot more than what they're given in-game. The devs should focus a bit more on their new races and explore them in the First. Viera are quite mystical, it would be interesting to see how they operate within Hydealyn.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

imo Vieras need a lot more than what they're given in-game. The devs should focus a bit more on their new races and explore them in the First. Viera are quite mystical, it would be interesting to see how they operate within Hydealyn.

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Agreed with this. I... do not like 14's incarnation of vieras. Fran was decent at least, but all of the ones that came after her are... ehh. The race feels Barbie Doll'd? I'm not sure how to describe it, but they almost feel like a different race from their FF12 selves. FF12 viera were amazing, and if Square actually made them more similar to that than "human with rabbit ears" I'd like the race a lot more.

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

Agreed with this. I... do not like 14's incarnation of vieras. Fran was decent at least, but all of the ones that came after her are... ehh. The race feels Barbie Doll'd? I'm not sure how to describe it, but they almost feel like a different race from their FF12 selves. FF12 viera were amazing, and if Square actually made them more similar to that than "human with rabbit ears" I'd like the race a lot more.

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Its kinda telling how we still havent explored The Source's Viera besides the mention of Golmore Jungle in the Ivalice raids. Raktika was neat, but would've loved to have that culture BE explored in the Source rather than having it feel so disconnected with us getting introduced to them in alternate Hydaelyn. Yet another reason why I dislike Shadowbringer's premise... (reeeally should've been that Garlemald expansion. Could've helped with better introducing Bozja as part of the msq too)

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Its kinda telling how we still havent explored The Source's Viera besides the mention of Golmore Jungle in the Ivalice raids. Raktika was neat, but would've loved to have that culture BE explored in the Source rather than having it feel so disconnected with us getting introduced to them in alternate Hydaelyn. Yet another reason why I dislike Shadowbringer's premise... (reeeally should've been that Garlemald expansion. Could've helped with better introducing Bozja as part of the msq too)

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I *think* part of the reason nothing else was released with Ivalice is because the main writer for it left Square? Or something like that. It's also why we'll never get another Ivalice based game, which I'm incredibly upset about. It's really sad, it just cements that we'll probably never actually get to explore the Ivalice related areas in 14 nor hear anything else about that resistance group or whatever Fran was with. Just a completely dropped story thread, IIRC.

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

I *think* part of the reason nothing else was released with Ivalice is because the main writer for it left Square? Or something like that. It's also why we'll never get another Ivalice based game, which I'm incredibly upset about. It's really sad, it just cements that we'll probably never actually get to explore the Ivalice related areas in 14 nor hear anything else about that resistance group or whatever Fran was with. Just a completely dropped story thread, IIRC.

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He'd left Square before, he was working as an outsider brought in. Some of the FF14 team worked on his past projects, and thus 14 has some inspiration from games like 12. Yoshida stated that Matsuno was his biggest reason for joining Square Enix to begin with, and that this was a thing he always wanted, to work alongside the guy. However, due to complications that we don't know about, Matsuno had to go and the story grew outside of what he had intended. It is indeed why we we'll never get another Ivalice game, though I can't exactly be sure whether Matsuno will return for a potential future Dalmasca content or if that whole plot got dropped.

Which frankly? It's absurd. They have other writers, surely one of them is capable of doing it justice. Plus, it's a country with volatility and continent-spanning repercussions. They can totally squeeze out an expansion's worth of content out of it if they put their minds to it.