Viera can't use the new Modern Aesthetics - Modern Legend

This patch made me switch back to Duckwight. New hair is unusable, new dungeon head gear is unusable, and viera/horthgar got nothing new added.

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Originally Posted by Nalien

I mean... Isn't it something like only 3% of the playerbase playing as Viera?

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You're in big trouble with math, my friend.
Based on the census, the total number of active players is 551026. 62841 of them are Viera. This is about 11.4% of the active playerbase.

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Originally Posted by Aelissa

You're in big trouble with math, my friend.
Based on the census, the total number of active players is 551026. 62841 of them are Viera. This is about 11.4% of the active playerbase.

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I think I may have taken from total players, rather than active. I don't care to check or contest the point though, I think my point still stands even at 11% of the playerbase being Viera, although as I said the point was mostly made in jest.

It's the third most popular female race. Only miqo and au ra are more popular than viera. Do you really think they don't deserve attention from SE?

Not sure how I can say it much more clearly than I already have;

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Originally Posted by Nalien

Not that I disagree with the sentiment that this is laziness on SEs part

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As I said, I simply found it funny to call a niche piece of content a "waste" when Viera hairstyles are also going to be an incredibly niche addition to spend resources on, even taking that 11.4% of the playerbase as Viera, how many would actually like and use the new hairstyle? Same goes for hats, really. Much like Performance, it's all very niche content to work on. To call Performance a "waste of resources" at the expense of Viera options is simply funny to me, because the exact same can be said in reverse, and it's likely not even the case given the differences between the two (Performance additions are largely sound/UI related, hairstyles/hats are model related).

Now does that mean I don't think Hrothgar and Viera should get new options? Not at all. Every other race did, so the two new races should too. The reality of the situation is that the two new races are apparently harder to model for though, personally don't see that being the case for Viera (at least with regards to hairstyles, hats I can see causing problems), but it's the excuse SE has give an they're apparently working on it. As I said though, they set themselves up for failure with this and I expect to see this kind of thread pop up every patch, I don't disagree with the sentiment but if we're going to act like this is a burning priority above other forms of content which are for everyone? Yeah I'm gonna find that funny.

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Originally Posted by spf1200

This patch made me switch back to Duckwight. New hair is unusable, new dungeon head gear is unusable, and viera/horthgar got nothing new added.

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Heard they're not as popular as they're quacked up to be.

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Originally Posted by Kazgrel

Heard they're not as popular as they're quacked up to be.

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It doesn't help that new races aren't implemented in a memorable way, either. In WoW, each playable race - even the minor ones - get their own starter zone that gives players a sense of what they're like, how their society operates and what their lore is. FFXIV doesn't really do that - which is one of the reasons why I play as a Hyur.

My interest in Au Ra only really came as of Stormblood when we actually went to see their homeland for ourselves. Prior to that they were barely present in the game world. Viera and Hrothgar are much the same way, they feel tacked on and there's no real story to them so far. Just a few brief scraps.

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Originally Posted by Icycrits

I understand that Viera were just a last minute addition to the game in order to appease the fanbase, and I'm really happy they did add them even in their extremely limited forms.

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Viera as a playable race was decided upon before they finalized that the SB raids were going to be Ivalice themed. They're halfbaked, yeah, but by no means a last min addition.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It doesn't help that new races aren't implemented in a memorable way, either. In WoW, each playable race - even the minor ones - get their own starter zone that gives players a sense of what they're like, how their society operates and what their lore is. FFXIV doesn't really do that - which is one of the reasons why I play as a Hyur.

My interest in Au Ra only really came as of Stormblood when we actually went to see their homeland for ourselves. Prior to that they were barely present in the game world. Viera and Hrothgar are much the same way, they feel tacked on and there's no real story to them so far. Just a few brief scraps.

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It did a better job in giving each race a distinctive feel and presence in the setting. You have to dig deep for most races in XIV, and I reckon it's because they wanted the city-states to be more prominent in terms of origins... which is a pity.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

It did a better job in giving each race a distinctive feel and presence in the setting. You have to dig deep for most races in XIV, and I reckon it's because they wanted the city-states to be more prominent in terms of origins... which is a pity.

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Yeah, unfortunately they didn't really make the city-states equally relevant - Ul'dah received the lion's share of attention throughout the MSQ's with Limsa and Gridania playing much smaller roles.