Should i stop taking crap from people and just start reporting?

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Not to be that guy, but the game has a profanity filter. if offensive words offend you, use it. And dont provoke people.

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Profanity filter or not the use of such language is still against the tos.

To the OP. There are definitely some bad mannered players her, but most players don't go immediately to sad behavior. Even if you though you were being neutral your language may not have been as you were obviously upset. Still report if you feel the need, but they research the event. Hopefully there are no skeletons in your closet so to speak.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

Nope, if I shouted to ask to hold a fate, and no one does, I get there and see the person I will ask. I done it before and some of the answers I got was "sorry did not see chat" or "I tried holding but so and so did not" and I moved on. A reasonable person does not spew toxic filth over a question, and I kicked people out of DFs before because of it.

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Two things:

1) "Why the heck didn't you hold the fate like I asked multiple times in chat? Are you blind or something? Jeez people are rude." Since, after 9 pages, we still don't have the full conversation, OP could've very well said something like that without thinking it could be seen as aggressive. It's absolutly impossible to take a side in this story because of that. So the best we can say to the OP is "yes, you can report them, but be sure that you are absolutly not accountable in terms of responsability in your altercation".

2) Confronting someone that didn't hold on a FATE is completly pointless. It won't solve anything. The FATE won't magically reappear because you now know why the FATE was completed without you despite your requests in chat. What if they didn't see? What if they just wanted to be jerks? What if that person was in a hurry? All of that doesn't matter at all unless you are trying to blacklist every rude person of your server because you have nothing else better to do with your time. But whatever the case, there was no point confronting them because there was no "situation" to solve in the first place. The best course of action would've been to simply move on and curse your own lack of luck.

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Originally Posted by Mizunoko

Irony

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OP,

To be honest, your behavior in this thread gives me the impression you overreacted. The irony between your behavior and your description of the fate killers is quite similar. Exquisitely funny! If you do not see it, I am not sure I am able to assist.

To answer your question, I believe you should not report everyone who is nasty. It is best to walk away. In my opinion, nasty language is quite low on the report scale and avoidable.

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Originally Posted by Fyce

Two things:

1) "Why the heck didn't you hold the fate like I asked multiple times in chat? Are you blind or something? Jeez people are rude." Since, after 9 pages, we still don't have the full conversation, OP could've very well said something like that without thinking it could be seen as aggressive. It's absolutly impossible to take a side in this story because of that. So the best we can say to the OP is "yes, you can report them, but be sure that you are absolutly not accountable in terms of responsability in your altercation".


2) Confronting someone that didn't hold on a FATE is completly pointless. It won't solve anything. The FATE won't magically reappear because you now know why the FATE was completed without you despite your requests in chat. What if they didn't see? What if they just wanted to be jerks? What if that person was in a hurry? All of that doesn't matter at all unless you are trying to blacklist every rude person of your server because you have nothing else better to do with your time. But whatever the case, there was no point confronting them because there was no "situation" to solve in the first place. The best course of action would've been to simply move on and curse your own lack of luck.

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1. Does not matter, the person being on the receiving end has a responsibility not to be toxic. Even if the OP said it in that way, the person that the OP should still get reported. 2 wrongs don't make a right, even if 3 lefts do.

2. So people can get an understanding to treat people better in the future? what a concept! Also fulfilling a curiosity why they did not do so. Is it really that hard to understand some people just like to know things for the sake of knowing?

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Originally Posted by Fyce

Two things:

1) "Why the heck didn't you hold the fate like I asked multiple times in chat? Are you blind or something? Jeez people are rude." Since, after 9 pages, we still don't have the full conversation, OP could've very well said something like that without thinking it could be seen as aggressive. It's absolutly impossible to take a side in this story because of that. So the best we can say to the OP is "yes, you can report them, but be sure that you are absolutly not accountable in terms of responsability in your altercation".

2) Confronting someone that didn't hold on a FATE is completly pointless. It won't solve anything. The FATE won't magically reappear because you now know why the FATE was completed without you despite your requests in chat. What if they didn't see? What if they just wanted to be jerks? What if that person was in a hurry? All of that doesn't matter at all unless you are trying to blacklist every rude person of your server because you have nothing else better to do with your time. But whatever the case, there was no point confronting them because there was no "situation" to solve in the first place. The best course of action would've been to simply move on and curse your own lack of luck.

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To expand on what Ama_Hamanda said, us commenting on the behaviour is also irrelevant. Reporting should be the go to for this kind of thing regardless on context or how the OP behaved because from there it is at the GMs discretion as to what happens. By doing that, the OP has piece of mind, and the people at the fate will get whatever treatment from the GM that they deserve based on chatlogs that the GM will see.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

1. Does not matter, the person being on the receiving end has a responsibility not to be toxic. Even if the OP said it in that way, the person that the OP should still get reported. 2 wrongs don't make a right, even if 3 lefts do.

2. So people can get an understanding to treat people better in the future? what a concept! Also fulfilling a curiosity why they did not do so. Is it really that hard to understand some people just like to know things for the sake of knowing?

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1) If OP was the one starting the fight with what s/he first said, then there's a high chance that the GM won't do anything. Worse, it can even turn against the one filling the report. It wouldn't be the first time of it happening.
It all depends on what OP said first. But it seems that we won't get any screenshot anytime soon.

2) Here's what OP said about what s/he thinks a confrontation is for:

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Originally Posted by Mizunoko

Confontation is not just an offensive or bad thing, its also a way people can work things out or solve a situation.

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So, not only OP already acknowledges that confronting is an "offensive and bad thing", but for him/her it's also a way to solve a situation. Except, as I already said, there's no situation to solve. In short, confronting someone in that context can only achieve one of two things: do absolutly nothing, or start a fight.
If you still want to do it for the sake of satisying your own curiosity, while knowing it will have absolutly no positive impact on your situation, then be my guest. But don't come complaining afterwards because someone said bad words.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

1. Does not matter, the person being on the receiving end has a responsibility not to be toxic. Even if the OP said it in that way, the person that the OP should still get reported. 2 wrongs don't make a right, even if 3 lefts do.

2. So people can get an understanding to treat people better in the future? what a concept! Also fulfilling a curiosity why they did not do so. Is it really that hard to understand some people just like to know things for the sake of knowing?

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You would be best just to bow your head and move on, you are adding nothing to this conversation. He could of easily of avoided the situation altogether. I do like my idea though, grow a backbone (seriously, you get triggered over that particular word? Hate to see if someone called you much worse) and don't bother GM's with such petty trivial crap. I would still be VERY interested in seeing the chat log (with name blocked out of course). I believe the whole story is not being said here.

I appreciate though, the best thing you could reply to me was, repeating the TOS. You know, the majority of us know what it says and we just move on from people like that (or just don't care that they "could" be reported. Why would I want to waste my time, or the GM's, with this trivial stuff? I fall in that category). You seem like your ready any time of the day to start with people in game.

Like I said though, Just best to bow your head and move on at this point.

P.S. Majority of people aren't going to change their behavior because of you reporting them to the GM. Just an fyi for you.

Have a good one~

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

Last time I seen that was, doing MSQ with a friend like a week ago, friend was trying to help someone new, explaining weapon effect on healing potency and so on, and some random outsider of the convo bard went off on my friend saying people should not tell people want to do or something, kick passed.

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You are saying this, similar to what the OP is saying, but we have no proof of the words exchanged between said parties. No one can some up with a chat log to defend their position it seems.

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Originally Posted by Nyerieri

You are saying this, similar to what the OP is saying, but we have no proof of the words exchanged between said parties. No one can some up with a chat log to defend their position it seems.

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IDK why people are still going on about this proof thing when the intention of this post was simply for peoples input on whats actually justifiable and not based on the TERMS OF SERVICE....you know the RULES of the game. This post is not about proof or sides or getting people on my side. So stop trying to make this about taking sides or seeing proof when that isn't even something that matters to me. It doesn't matter who started what. Breaking the rules is breaking the rules and whether both sides did wrong or just one side did wrong. Doing wrong is still not excusable and should have consequences either way. Because the rules dictate such. The rules are not a debatable thing, they are there and worded clearly so people know what and what not to do in the game. If you break them you get punished. Simple as that.

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Originally Posted by Mizunoko

IDK why people are still going on about this proof thing when the intention of this post was simply for peoples input on whats actually justifiable and not based on the TERMS OF SERVICE....you know the RULES of the game. This post is not about proof or sides or getting people on my side. So stop trying to make this about taking sides or seeing proof when that isn't even something that matters to me. It doesn't matter who started what. Breaking the rules is breaking the rules and whether both sides did wrong or just one side did wrong. Doing wrong is still not excusable and should have consequences either way. Because the rules dictate such. The rules are not a debatable thing, they are there and worded clearly so people know what and what not to do in the game. If you break them you get punished. Simple as that.

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Grow a backbone.

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Originally Posted by Mizunoko

black and white rules

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If so many people in this thread, including myself, give their input by also asking proof, its because all rules are tacked on with context. Its what decides a warning, a 3 day ban or a a permaban.

You ask us if you should report offensive players or just move on/take it. You got your "yes/no" based on the situation you gave us. What I don't understand is why you ask the playerbase opinion when you've already made up your mind about it and at the same time disregarding the concept that people won't exclusively isolate the bottom line question when presented with everything else that surrounds it.