Lackluster Graphics in FFXIV

ok maybe this is what your refering to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9nrV1Oi6Ak

Now this is a TECH demo and is from 2005 and is ffxiv but again this is a TECH DEMO so basicaly consept

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Originally Posted by quantumsaint

For the record, and correct me if I'm wrong, but FFXIII wasn't FHD, it ran upscaled from 720p. Not that it matters much, as it's already been pointed out comparing single player games to MMOs is apples to oranges.

Also, the Crystal Tools engine wasn't even finished in 2005, there's no way that's running in-game. It's likely that prerendered cutscenes (a specialty of S-E) were one of the first things locked down in Crystal Tools, which they then used to show off their engine.

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That is true. If I remember correctly, FHD basically means 1080p, which very few console games run at (If any. I can't think of any off the top of my head). But to be honest, HD and FHD are pointless marketing terms anyways.

the tech demo was for the 360, least thats where i saw it. the towering city with the hot air balloons and npc with treasures gear on. it was out b4 the 360 was out. I bet it still on my 360.

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I'm sure I could easily come up with more valid nitpicks than these on a number of successful mmos. If you hate FF so much, why are you here?

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Trully, I mean I just started reading a few topics in general discussion and I've seen a few created by this Belgianrofl guy complaining about EVERYTHING in the game that is NOT important.

As to why is he here, I believe that all of us can answer that, he likes the game.
He likes it so much, that he can't even find important flaws to discuss. :P

See what I did there?

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

the tech demo was for the 360, least thats where i saw it. the towering city with the hot air balloons and npc with treasures gear on. it was out b4 the 360 was out. I bet it still on my 360.

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yeah it is. But this wasent even going to be the game in general. this was just a consept. Think someone was argueing that this 2005 video was how the game played or something but it wasent at all. it was just a TCH Demo nothing more nothing less.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Then why did you mention it? :D

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Oh, just to said I've experiences with some engines.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

being able to work on a mod doesn't give you any professional knowledge. Modding is, by definition, amateur work.

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No way. seriously look at the date. I wasn't student.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

maybe you need to learn to express yourself in a more clear manner, because everyone felt that you didn't know.
Actually, it still looks like you don't :D

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Oh. sorry I'm french. I was just making fun of how you tried to make fun of me with those things everyone knows sinces 10 years like "MMOs get more chara, blahblhablah".

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Originally Posted by Abriael

And of course you had a chance to closely examine the Crystals Tools engine to be able to say that, rite?

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No. Like you, right ? so, for you, CTengine seems well optimised ?

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Originally Posted by Abriael

When we see another MMORPG out there that can display the same polygons, details and effects as FFXIV does, with better framerates on the same machines, then we'll see.
For now, everything else the market offers has a way inferior definition, and even future releases shown so far don't get to the level of definition FFXIV reaches

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Well it's exactly what I said. For you FFXIV is the Best Graphic mmorpg. But it's just the only one with realistic texture when the other just stay on flashy colored style. Tera looks less realitic with less good texture, but technicaly, it pwnd FFXIV for shadows, lights, effect. (But the game itself doesn't interest me at all.)

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Nope. The only parts of that teaser that aren't pre-rendered footage are actually present in the game we have now. As they are part of the Limsa Lominsa in-engine intro.
You might have missed it.

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It seems to be pre rendered, but the charas have no shadows ?

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Originally Posted by RabidSquirrel

That is true. If I remember correctly, FHD basically means 1080p, which very few console games run at (If any. I can't think of any off the top of my head). But to be honest, HD and FHD are pointless marketing terms anyways.

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Metal Gear Solid 4 is native 1080P, as is a handful of PSN games. FFXIII was originally touted as such, but was changed before release.

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Originally Posted by Wenceslas

No. Like you, right ? so, for you, CTengine seems well optimised ?

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Considering that it can run a MMORPG at an unprecedented polycount and level of detail, it definitely isn't as bad as you say.

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Well it's exactly what I said. For you FFXIV is the Best Graphic mmorpg. But it's just the only one with realistic texture when the other just stay on flashy colored style. Tera looks less realitic with less good texture, but technicaly, it pwnd FFXIV for shadows, lights, effect. (But the game itself doesn't interest me at all.)

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You're confusing two very different things here. Graphical detail and Art direction.
Realistic or cartoonish textures have nothing to do with graphical detail. They are just a matter of art direction.

TERA doesn't even get near the level of graphical detail (see: polycount, texture resolution, effects, both for textures and for environment) FFXIV has. Everything is largely downscaled in comparison.

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It seems to be pre rendered, but the charas have no shadows ?

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Character shadows are often excluded in teaser trailers, because they're one of the least noticeable effects.

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Originally Posted by quantumsaint

Metal Gear Solid 4 is native 1080P, as is a handful of PSN games. FFXIII was originally touted as such, but was changed before release.

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Nope. MGS4 runs at 1024x768 upscaled.

FFXIII runs in 1080p only during cutscenes and only on PS3.

I agree that the shadows and light sources are all jacked up...