Please add damage meters, Yoshi P.

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

I mean, the main reason I would be in favor of adding a personal meter and analysis tool is for the sake of console players.

On PC, you can run a parser and then break down your log and look at "Oh, I am forgetting to refresh my DoT in the middle of healing people up" or "I'm letting this slip from where it should be lined up" or even just wail on a training dummy and check whether Food A or Food B seems to work better for raw damage for you, etc.

If you play on console, you are out-of-luck. This isn't to say that console players cannot clear high-end content; demonstrably they can. But I know a lot of competent console players who have relied on a PC friend to come log them pounding on a training dummy so that they have those logs to analyze.

Having some sort of tool for your own analysis and self-improvement built-in... I feel like that would benefit console players greatly. But I don't think it needs to be a general tell-you-everyone's-numbers damage meter.

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The problem with having a damage meter is that is doesn't provide any of the information you're looking for. It will not tell you if DoTs are falling off or if you're missing your oGCDs or what, it will only tell you DPS. The parsing tools that people are using now tell you all of that. What you want is an actual analysis of your performance not a DPS meter.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

The problem with having a damage meter is that is doesn't provide any of the information you're looking for. It will not tell you if DoTs are falling off or if you're missing your oGCDs or what, it will only tell you DPS. The parsing tools that people are using now tell you all of that. What you want is an actual analysis of your performance not a DPS meter.

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It's better than not having any info (console players)

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

It's better than not having any info (console players)

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Not really, even if you do find out your DPS is low, you will still need to use other tools to find out why and how to improve. You are still having to go outside the game to actually do anything about it.

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

The 4 RDM meta

Myself
Firemage
Need 2 more insufferable RDMs

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One insufferable RDM is enough, I don't need to have two nore of you

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Originally Posted by FireMage

One insufferable RDM is enough, I don't need to have two nore of you

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Something about Kettles and pots...

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Originally Posted by Renalt

Something about Kettles and pots...

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I bless every party with my presence, so no there's nothing about pots and kettles

I don't know if this has been brought up before in this thread. But I have seen a lot of posts elsewhere about people playing this game with anxiety and depression. As someone who was recently diagnosed with depression I feel like a failure almost every day like I can't do anything right. A damage meter or parser as part of the game that I knew everyone had access to even if I turned it off would actually make my life worse. I can't even get myself to que up for normal/alliance raids and trials most of the time. I do try to play well when I'm doing dungeons ect but the thought of other people seeing numerically how bad I'm doing or of having to look at it myself would probably make all the battle content unplayable for me.

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Originally Posted by Sklaf

I don't know if this has been brought up before in this thread. But I have seen a lot of posts elsewhere about people playing this game with anxiety and depression. As someone who was recently diagnosed with depression I feel like a failure almost every day like I can't do anything right. A damage meter or parser as part of the game that I knew everyone had access to even if I turned it off would actually make my life worse. I can't even get myself to que up for normal/alliance raids and trials most of the time. I do try to play well when I'm doing dungeons ect but the thought of other people seeing numerically how bad I'm doing or of having to look at it myself would probably make all the battle content unplayable for me.

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I'm fairly sure most people queuing up for anything below Extremes have seen it all by now, so there's no point worrying about it. If I have to drag a literal corpse through those, I will forget it by the time I'm queuing up for the next thing.
The level of play for average players is fairly low as are the expectations, nobody is going to keep a track of your name.

no need. they added a DPS parse meter to the 2nd boss of the new dungeon.

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Originally Posted by ThaCa

I'm fairly sure most people queuing up for anything below Extremes have seen it all by now, so there's no point worrying about it. If I have to drag a literal corpse through those, I will forget it by the time I'm queuing up for the next thing.
The level of play for average players is fairly low as are the expectations, nobody is going to keep a track of your name.

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I understand that it's not other people most of the time. Its my perception of my own performance. More metrics are just more things for me to hate myself for. The worse it is the harder it is to do the next thing.