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Originally Posted by Burningskull

InB4 BLU flops and we get a rework of BLU in 6.0 like they did with BRD for Stormblood.

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For that to happen people would have to ignore BLU on a massive scale. As in a large number of players would not even unlock it and lvl it. I just don't see that happening. Even if it amounts to nothing, a lot of people would lvl it at some point, since it's quite a few months till Shadowbringers. Say what you want with BLU's design, but they've decided to strategically release it when XIV hits a particularly dry content period. I would've loved a limited job at around 3.5. I mostly took a break around then, expected to do the same with SB. At least BLU gives me a small diversion that I plan on enjoying next to all the usual content.

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

Squadrons are not that surprising considering you can do lvl 60 dungeons on them and Blu is locked at 50.

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I fail to see how making the dungeons above level 50 unavailable/grayed-out to players currently on BLU wouldn't sidestep this. Is the spaghetti-coding that bad? For me that's like saying "You're not level 50 on this new job you're leveling yet, so since you can't queue-up for Snowcloak you can't queue up for any dungeons from ARR at all until you hit level 50 on it first."

Not being able to do squadrons is baffling.

The totems are probably there as a means for people who suck at this game to get the skills that require completing a difficult solo instance, if I had to guess. Or maybe just as a safeguard against RNG, which is nice.

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Originally Posted by redcurrant18

At this rate Summoner will become the next limited job in Shadowbringers because like Blue Mage it doesn't fit in exactly to its role if they follow the same logic.

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Lol that would rule so hard.

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Originally Posted by Allistar

I meant as far as Tank Healer DPS...add another role, like support. Jobs whose role would be to provide beneficial buffs or debuffs to party in addition to their dps.

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And it's been an utterly unbalanced pile of shit the entire time. Please keep that garbage out of my cool and good game.

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

Squadrons are not that surprising considering you can do lvl 60 dungeons on them and Blu is locked at 50. I think the totems are for spells that you can't learn from Mobs. Like the lvl 1 spell you start with and Mighty Guard.

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You're already locked out of doing dungeons on Squadron that you haven't unlocked or are above the level of the class you're attempting to queue with aren't you?

Everyone should be very concerned with BLU becoming a minigame vice a fully realized class. What this tells us is, if the class would be too "difficult" to actually implement in the game, they can just not implement it at all, and instead slap it on as a lazy side activity. If a Job cannot raid, it isn't a Job at all.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

SMN can sort of tank, through titan-egi, so it's not unheard of for DPS to have some situational tank skills.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Just saying, a full job BLU could have some situational tank kit (much the same way a few DPS have a bit of healer kit) without being game breaking.

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Mighty Guard is pretty much just Titan-Egi and Fists of Earth combined. So long as Blue Mage isn't getting any major enmity multiplying spells on top of that, I don't think it's game breaking or even beyond a precedent for DPS already set.

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

Squadrons are not that surprising considering you can do lvl 60 dungeons on them and Blu is locked at 50.

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Squadrons have no problems with other jobs that are level 50 or below. You only have to be high enough for the dungeon you're trying to enter, so they're level 20 and up (since I think Halatali is the first one available).

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

The thing about that is that it's a strawman. BLU is as much of a job as my BRD is when I go into PVP. Do you see that BRD anywhere outside PVP? No? Me neither. BLU could've been in reverse, where you're locked to a set of skills that they do balance (obtained through totems and quests, which they already put in). The one downside to this I can think of is that BLU is still going to wreck havok on the overworld, but that's a problem of design and shortsight because if BLU is really going to be such a troll, it should've been taken into account anyway.

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Yeah, I actually said this on my original post in this thread when I talked about my concern of balancing. Just that, unless they gave it to us in quests or some other way, it would be messy to implement since it would require you to have certain skills that you'd need to find on your own and Yoshida seemed like he was adamant that we learn everything from mobs. Buuuuuuut, with that idea tossed out the window considering the totems and all.... I guess there's no defense anymore. Not sure what they're thinking, honestly.

I think people are panicking and throwing a B**** fit way too soon over BLU. See what the devs do with it and how it changes going into 4.5 (part2) on into Shadow bringers. If nothing is done with it at least going into Shadow bringers ( i.e making at a full job that can raid etc) then be worried about it. Since its SIGNIFICANTLY different to literally every other job on the roster it from a development standpoint I can see where the difficulty would lay in properly balancing it. Because let's admit it depending on the skills it has its basically EVERY job class Dps, Healer and Tank.

Anyways my two cents on the subject either we can sit here and cry about it being restricted (for now as they have said there are plans to raise its cap in 4.5 part 2 and beyond) or we can let it be and see if they implement it right and it becomes a worthy and helpful part of the job classes. Just remember we have 2 (Possibly 3) classes coming in Shadow bringers I think we should be thinking about what those may be and how they will fit in with current classes rather than a job that will start low but give us a chance to tell the dev team how it can and should be implemented with the other jobs once the expansion launches.

I wouldn't mind being able to play it in actual content..even if they limit it I guess. Either way its whatever, but I can understand how some feel if BLU was their favorite FF job. I would hate to see this happen to Dancer (my favorite) :(