White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

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Originally Posted by Yoruichi4478

A lvl 15 event does not equate to a lvl 50 Ultimate fight.

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Some clarification to avoid mis-information:
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Only the first part of the event (The quest "In Adventurers We Trust") could be completed by a level 15 player. This quest awards the Wind-up Cirina minion, and the Revolutions orchestrion roll.

The instanced part of the event (which many people can't even access or participate in for totally different reasons) requires level 30, and is the only way to earn the tokens required to purchase the assorted quest rewards (both sets of earrings as well as some limited-time event-only confetti)

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Originally Posted by Penthea

Where is the promise that they won't release the earrings after 1.0? Where did they actually promise anything about this?

When they said the content was intended for 1.0 they likely referred to the boss, not the earrings. I seriously doubt they think a pair of earrings can clash with the story. But the presence of a npc who is dead before ARR launch certainly would. As for the earrings not being available in ARR, this is still true because they came during the SB expansion, not in any ARR patches.

You really need to stop reading things SE didn't actually say. They didn't promise anything. They only clarified that certain content won't be available during ARR.

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I'm really starting to wonder whats hard about reading what they did say.

"First, you'll be able to enjoy and participate in the Seventh Umbral Era event ... and other items that will be exclusive to that period."
"This content was made for our current players and was only intended for 1.0."
"Items Unobtainable

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Items obtained through events associated with the coming of the Seventh Umbral Era, such as over-aspected clusters"
"But I was just wondering if the White Ravens obtained via Rivenroad (Hard) are considered in this category."
"White Ravens will not be obtainable"

Are we really cherry picking that they mentioned ARR when ARR was the definition of everything after 1.0 shut down at the time? ARR wan't an expansion, it was a tagline for the relaunch of the game.

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Originally Posted by NaiaLalita

Only the first part of the event (The quest "In Adventurers We Trust") could be completed by a level 15 player. This quest awards the Wind-up Cirina minion, and the Revolutions orchestrion roll.

The instanced part of the event (which many people can't even access or participate in for totally different reasons) requires level 30, and is the only way to earn the tokens required to purchase the assorted quest rewards (both sets of earrings as well as some limited-time event-only confetti)

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Regardless, they are now "seasonal items", so expect to see them on the mogstation at some point.

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Originally Posted by Tiraelina

It's already been said before, if you don't care that the devs have been breaking even more of their promises that's your choice.

Don't belittle someone else because they do.

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I'm not belittling anyone. I've been following this thread for a few days now and it's gone from mild irritation on both sides to people being nasty gremlins to each other. Over a collection of freaking PIXELS. Yes, sentimental value etc. on them for some people, good on them for that. But that still doesn't excuse the behaviour of the nasty ones.

SE hasn't broken anything. They could say their skybox isn't really blue but celeste green and people would scream "broken promises!!!!" let's be real here. They've said repeatedly that they didn't think the game would last nor that it would be so popular, and likely never expected to get past ARR. So yes, them saying "it won't be in ARR" is still correct, even with the pedantic "we're in SB now" because we are. The game is not called "Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn: Stormblood". ARR is, essentially, an xpac title as the game follows "Final Famtasy XIV: Heavensward" and now Stormblood.

Point still stands: go outside. Get some air. Calm down.

Originally, I was in the who cares camp. But, thinking about it, I have changed my mind.

The White Raven earrings are a reward for a specific group of players. It is their badge of honor for completing a specific challenge in 1.0. They should not be handed out like candy.

They should be earned.

It's probably way too late now but the Rising reward should be altered in some way to reflect that it is not the original White Raven earrings from 1.0.

I actually got to do the event today. I earned 42 tickets for something that took like 10 minutes of work. I think it's 50 for the earrings. So yes, since this is what it is, I can appreciate that we got a little taste of what 1.0 was like with monsters in the city, I can see why 1.0 veterans would be a bit miffed by this.

Still, even with this event, I think we can never come close to replicating what those players felt, both when they finally got the earrings and when the servers shut down. It's not a bad event when you can actually do it, but it's just kind of like a sliver of 1.0. It didn't really feel like we were looking back much at how far we had come.

If it were anything like 1.0, it'd have had a christmas tree that'd make your machine sound like a jet engine.

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

I can appreciate that we got a little taste of what 1.0 was like with monsters in the city, I can see why 1.0 veterans would be a bit miffed by this.

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Nothing of this was a taste of what 1.0 was like. The Instance itself is an homage to the GMs spamming mobs in the cities during the last hours of the game. Overall I can understand why they're miffed solely because there is, now that I saw it linked multiple times in this thread, a promised made to 1.0 players promising Seventh Umbral Era items to be solely for them for sticking around including the White Raven Earrings. Also to everyone going "Oh they didn't expect ARR to set off like it did" or "They said ARR not HW or SB" the message was loud and clear to players from the get go; the items would never return in the reboot of the game.

Like I've stated earlier I don't mind in the long run that they were added back but this mere instance with FATEs is such a garbage way of introducing them back. One would expect a game backed by a Triple A studio to at least rehash its assets to try and recreate its fight. Most of it could have been repurposed T9 assets given it actually uses the same map but in true FFXIV fashion we got another lazy "FATE" spam.

I will say the fact that the actual promise from both Yoshida and the confirmation from Bayohne actually came to light, thank you 1.0 forum archives, I can't help but feel that this has just set a bad precedent for the future of the game if they can't even keep promises for their original players.
Click Here For Set of Quoted Promises
Also this argument of "Yoshi-P saved the game so he decides what he can do" is half true. Yes he can do what he wants with the game given he manages it but to say he solely saved the game is a lie. The reason he even had a chance to save the game in the first place was due to the Legacy Campaign that the players took part in, had no players taken part in the campaign you be assured that ARR would have never existed for Yoshida to associate his name with. Sure he remade the game into something that was better than it originally was and gave it a good foundation to grow on, which they keep wasting, but were it not for the financial backing from the campaign the game would have died with the Meteor Event

Overall my stance is still heavily on "If they bring it back at least do it the honor of tying it behind something people can be proud of doing not just another FATE Spam" but yet we got the most predictable content: FATE SPAM What I find worse is given their trend with seasonal items these will eventually land in the cash shop further throwing them further into the meaningless trinket category. Actually bit off track here since the mentality is "Well we can't get it anymore so its good to have it back" with people here why can't we push this towards the Mogshop? Why pay when we can earn it in-game thru basic crud like crafting and such?

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Originally Posted by Noodle_Trinidad

The reason he even had a chance to save the game in the first place was due to the Legacy Campaign that the players took part in, had no players taken part in the campaign you be assured that ARR would have never existed for Yoshida to associate his name with. Sure he remade the game into something that was better than it originally was and gave it a good foundation to grow on, which they keep wasting, but were it not for the financial backing from the campaign the game would have died with the Meteor Event

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I don't get how people keep coming to this conclusion. They were going to remake the game no matter what. The game was a blight on the Final Fantasy brand. They had no choice but to save it. It would have costed them a lot more not to.

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

Originally, I was in the who cares camp. But, thinking about it, I have changed my mind.

The White Raven earrings are a reward for a specific group of players. It is their badge of honor for completing a specific challenge in 1.0. They should not be handed out like candy.

They should be earned.

It's probably way too late now but the Rising reward should be altered in some way to reflect that it is not the original White Raven earrings from 1.0.

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That sentence is why I say "who cares." I worked with a group of friends to earn my/our clear of the Binding Coils. We got our gear, title, etc. Skip a few years later and people are unsyncing it either for story purposes, desynthing purposes or material acquisition purposes. Heck, the Replica gear is more valuable than the Coil gear because they can be dyed. Why is the time and effort of ARR-SB players less important than 1.0 players?

The second "unsync" came into FFXIV, "they should be earned" loses all meaning (and if Rivenroad [Hard] still existed, these earrings would be quicker to 'earn' than they are from this event).