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11-27-2012, 01:24 AM
vax

It sucks for me because being from South America, the long holiday is now, when i end the university now on december and start on febrary and with less work and more free time it would be nice to have a chance to see the game a bit.
11-27-2012, 01:26 AM
Trotsky

Holy crap, 29 pages in a single day... People seriously need to chill. I mean, c'mon, this is just alpha. There's not much to do yet. You can run around Gridania, spam jump, and that's it. Certainly nothing worth getting agitated about. Now, if I won't get into beta, then I'll get enraged.
11-27-2012, 01:27 AM
Kallera

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

They changed their own rules for selection. They decided to go for something other than what was laid out in the rules and even though they can do whatever the hell they want with their test, this leaves much to be desired about them. You would expect a bit of congruity and consistency here.

You are lying, SE never disclosed their criteria for selecting applicants. Who and how they choose to be their test monkeys is not our affair any more than why they don't hire Reinheart.
11-27-2012, 01:28 AM
Cecwhite

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Originally Posted by Trotsky

Holy crap, 29 pages in a single day... People seriously need to chill. I mean, c'mon, this is just alpha. There's not much to do yet. You can run around Gridania, spam jump, and that's it. Certainly nothing worth getting agitated about. Now, if I won't get into beta, then I'll get enraged.

lol trotsky I expected to see more by now :)
11-27-2012, 01:28 AM
vax

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotsky

Holy crap, 29 pages in a single day... People seriously need to chill. I mean, c'mon, this is just alpha. There's not much to do yet. You can run around Gridania, spam jump, and that's it. Certainly nothing worth getting agitated about. Now, if I won't get into beta, then I'll get enraged.

But i wanna run and jump on Gridania :(.
11-27-2012, 01:28 AM
Vilhem

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Originally Posted by Trotsky

Holy crap, 29 pages in a single day... People seriously need to chill. I mean, c'mon, this is just alpha. There's not much to do yet. You can run around Gridania, spam jump, and that's it. Certainly nothing worth getting agitated about. Now, if I won't get into beta, then I'll get enraged.

Don't you know?! They wanna be the first kid on the block with the "insider look" so they can boast to their buddies how cool they are! To hell with it being a broken game restricted to one area!
11-27-2012, 01:29 AM
Black_Rose

well i didn't get invited to the alpha aswell, tho i have been playing 1.0 since day 1 when alpha started and i also gave lots of feedback, but it's obvious that SE would also like to draw in some feedback of the players that didn't stick to the game till the end.

the way current players view this game and how new players will react to it will be different in many ways, so will the feedback.but SE has already drawn in plenty of feedback by current players and is thus probably interested in feedback by outside players aswell.

Alpha/Beta tests are there to be tested obviously, but also to be played.
i guess it's save to say that SE did invite 50% new players and 50% old players to cover up the feedback they need.

best that can happen is that those that quit along time ago, or those that never took an interest in FFXIV will do so now, and start talking about it on different websites.
i don't think i will have to tell you how fanboys would react on the internet about 2.0, eh?
i guess everyone that sticked with this from beginning to end is kind of a fanboy.
atleast i can openly admit i am, but i welcome new players any time!
11-27-2012, 01:31 AM
NefarioCall

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...WAdyR7e2bJHdrw
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/phot...9-1280-800.jpg
11-27-2012, 01:34 AM
Xeonerable

"Global Alpha" probably just means more japanese. lol

/sarcasm
11-27-2012, 01:38 AM
RexValentino

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

I'm not whining because i didn't receive the alpha invitation, but a lot of my friend that have quit the game AFTER THE FIRST MONTH FROM THE RELEASE GOT IT! And me (and others of course) supporting the game and paying for the crappy 1.0, didn't receive it.

Only who had an active FFXIV account was supposed to get the invitation right?

Now tell me dear SE, for the love of god WHY??? :mad:

It was a kind of application site bug? If this was wanted? Just need clarification about this.

If there are about 800 slots available, and they vary the invites even a little, it would be obvious that some people that didn't play much would get an invite. These people would probably also be more likely to break the NDA and start telling everyone. Until you know how many were invited, and the proportion of players that were hardcore to 'quitters,' any response or insight into how they are doing things is based on nothing real. XD

So far i have seen posts in a few threads ... only about 4-5 people say they knew someone or a few people that got invites that didn't play much during 1.0. So that is about 10-15 people out of how many invites that went out? (200?, 400?, 800?) ... Just think about all the hardcore players that got in that you didn't know on your server or other servers that actually got in, and are smart enough not to risk losing their alpha accounts by breaking the NDA and telling everyone.
11-27-2012, 01:38 AM
mikecoby

Guys, please hear me out.

I didn't get in, like almost all here reading, and I'll admit i was sad. BUT, if you honestly read the posts, you'll see just what SE is trying to do. And it makes perfect sence!!

THEY'RE MAKING 2.0 a WIN! They're asking the players who quit because of 1.0 to come, try alpha, and see what we've done now. See what we've changed, see what we're doing. See our new FF14! Come back, please!

They NEED the player base to make 2.0 a success.

And for people that played 1.0 from Sept 20th of 2010, don't feel bad. I have a feeling Beta has out name listed somewhere secret :) And Beta>Alpha by far, amirite?

Guys don't rage, please. FF14 has the best community out of any mmo I know. They need more players back. They want 2.0 to be the success we all want it to be, which it WILL be!!
11-27-2012, 01:41 AM
Uriahnool

If one of the main focuses of Global Alpha was to stress test the servers and leave them up for 24 hours, I would think it would make sense to invite people who have been playing with an active account to assure the traffic is held up instead of those who are just signing up for alpha as a joke and haven't been interested in the game. Who is more likely to drop everything and test Alpha? Players who have been active up until shut down and are eager to spend time in the new game, or those who gave up and are caught up in a dozen other things that they don't have time for alpha? I feel OP's rage at people who aren't even players getting the invite.

It would be nice if we had some criteria that was followed in making the decision. If it was going to be random, or if they were catering to a certain demographic, it would be nice to know how that was selected.
11-27-2012, 01:43 AM
Gokulo

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Originally Posted by Uriahnool

If one of the main focuses of Global Alpha was to stress test the servers and leave them up for 24 hours, I would think it would make sense to invite people who have been playing with an active account to assure the traffic is held up instead of those who are just signing up for alpha as a joke and haven't been interested in the game. Who is more likely to drop everything and test Alpha? Players who have been active up until shut down and are eager to spend time in the new game, or those who gave up and are caught up in a dozen other things that they don't have time for alpha? I feel OP's rage at people who aren't even players getting the invite.

It would be nice if we had some criteria that was followed in making the decision. If it was going to be random, or if they were catering to a certain demographic, it would be nice to know how that was selected.

Sorry, but you have no definite data on how many of what type of people were invited, so making statements like that just makes you look silly.
11-27-2012, 01:48 AM
Exn

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Originally Posted by Gokulo

Sorry, but you have no definite data on how many of what type of people were invited, so making statements like that just makes you look silly.

I'm curious, has anyone heard of any Legacy players getting an invite? I only know of 2 people who got an invite personally, both who are not Legacy, nor played more than 4 months (including the first free months ) over the past 2 years. One was in the closed alpha from 1.0.
11-27-2012, 01:48 AM
Cecwhite

I just want to see more Live Letters. I wonder when he's going to do LIVE V . My wild random guess is sometime during Beta maybe.
11-27-2012, 01:49 AM
tobyx

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Originally Posted by mikecoby

THEY'RE MAKING 2.0 a WIN! They're asking the players who quit because of 1.0 to come, try alpha, and see what we've done now. See what we've changed, see what we're doing. See our new FF14! Come back, please!

You think walking through one city with a forest tied to it and no content will get those people excited?
11-27-2012, 01:53 AM
DannyNobuser

I feel your pain i hella dig this game and to have people who have no interest in the game get an invite over you is a huge frustration. i myself have yet to recive one and ive played the game 6 months after original release priority should go to the long term it shows loyalty
11-27-2012, 01:55 AM
Dynamis

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Originally Posted by Exn

I'm curious, has anyone heard of any Legacy players getting an invite? I only know of 2 people who got an invite personally, both who are not Legacy, nor played more than 4 months (including the first free months ) over the past 2 years. One was in the closed alpha from 1.0.

/Legacy Rage
11-27-2012, 01:57 AM
mikecoby

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Originally Posted by tobyx

You think walking through one city with a forest tied to it and no content will get those people excited?

I'm not too sure what's all in Alpha, but I'd ask SE that question since they're the ones that did it.
11-27-2012, 02:01 AM
whoopeeragon

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Originally Posted by mikecoby

I'm not too sure what's all in Alpha, but I'd ask SE that question since they're the ones that did it.

http://entry.ffxiv.com/alpha/index_en.html

I should start putting this at the top of every post I make from now on...

Quote:

Objectives of the Alpha Test

As the servers, core systems, game client, and other aspects of FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn are being completely revamped, the objective of the Alpha Test will be to check the core systems and server stress. For this reason, playable areas, character levels, race selection, and other content will be limited. The game system is currently under development, so bugs may be encountered.

Following the Alpha Test, the Beta Test will focus on checking game systems, reviewing in-game content, adjusting the battle systems, checking balance, and reporting bugs.
* The Alpha Test will only be carried out on Windows PCs. The PlayStation 3 Beta Test will start in conjunction with the PC Beta Test.
11-27-2012, 02:03 AM
mikecoby

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

http://entry.ffxiv.com/alpha/index_en.html

I should start putting this at the top of every post I make from now on...

That's not what I said :P. He asked if 2.0 was only one zone. Your reply doesn't answer that.
11-27-2012, 02:04 AM
Elexia

Just FYI I can understand the rage, but the JP are having a field day over NA/EU reaction to this lol.
11-27-2012, 02:05 AM
Kallera

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Originally Posted by mikecoby

That's not what I said :P. He asked if 2.0 was only one zone. Your reply doesn't answer that.

And any serious reply would likely have the mods coming down on our heads.
11-27-2012, 02:05 AM
Gokulo

It says it's limited. No one gonna post what zoned are in exactly because that would break NDA, but that stuff is known for a while now.
11-27-2012, 02:06 AM
mikecoby

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Just FYI I can understand the rage, but the JP are having a field day over NA/EU reaction to this lol.

Ahahahh. You're probably right about that.
11-27-2012, 02:06 AM
Cecwhite

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Just FYI I can understand the rage, but the JP are having a field day over NA/EU reaction to this lol.

you can count on it :)
11-27-2012, 02:07 AM
whoopeeragon

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Originally Posted by mikecoby

That's not what I said :P. He asked if 2.0 was only one zone. Your reply doesn't answer that.

And that was as close as I can get without breaching NDA. We know there is Gridania and Black Shroud from the officially released videos. Other stuff? Who knows.
11-27-2012, 02:09 AM
Twiddle

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Just FYI I can understand the rage, but the JP are having a field day over NA/EU reaction to this lol.

No really?? By the look on the forum (NA at least) you would think only occupants in NA are spoiled brats that think they are special and want special treatment, to BE special..
11-27-2012, 02:10 AM
Kallera

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elexia

Just FYI I can understand the rage, but the JP are having a field day over NA/EU reaction to this lol.

Do they come with pictures? Please tell me they come with pictures.
11-27-2012, 02:11 AM
Exn

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Just FYI I can understand the rage, but the JP are having a field day over NA/EU reaction to this lol.

Aren't they the ones who have had access for like the past month or so?...
11-27-2012, 02:14 AM
Twiddle

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Originally Posted by Exn

Aren't they the ones who have had access for like the past month or so?...

what difference does this make?? not all JP got in to the JP alpha... same way not all NA/EU will get in to the global alpha... difference is JP didn't act like brats and rage, why they dint get picked... fine you didn't get picked, there is still A LOT of time left, everyone will get a turn eventually... why are people so spoiled..
11-27-2012, 02:16 AM
Elexia

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Do they come with pictures? Please tell me they come with pictures.

There's some pictures I can't link lol.

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Originally Posted by Exn

Aren't they the ones who have had access for like the past month or so?...

Yep, but they're more poking fun at people being overly excited/upset about the selection when the Alpha isn't really something that should peak this much emotion over it.
11-27-2012, 02:16 AM
Gokulo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiddle

difference is JP didn't act like brats and rage, why they dint get picked...

Are you sure? I'd bet they had their own share of butthurt over there.
11-27-2012, 02:22 AM
Twiddle

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Originally Posted by Gokulo

Are you sure? I'd bet they had their own share of butthurt over there.

Well going off of my knowledge of JP culture and people, as minor as it may be.. i would say no. For the most part people, players, and so on from JP demonstrate a very high degree of patience, which is uncommon in other people out of JP. Mind you there are people out of that bracket, but those are few and far in between.
11-27-2012, 02:25 AM
Elexia

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Originally Posted by Gokulo

Are you sure? I'd bet they had their own share of butthurt over there.

Surprisingly there weren't as much butthurt as there is in the NA/EU community, there was a lot of people that posted the typical ascii art and the new 'you ban!' you see on 2ch, but the amount of level-headed people far outweighed it.
11-27-2012, 02:26 AM
Dimitsuri

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

I'm not whining because i didn't receive the alpha invitation, but a lot of my friend that have quit the game AFTER THE FIRST MONTH FROM THE RELEASE GOT IT! And me (and others of course) supporting the game and paying for the crappy 1.0, didn't receive it.

Only who had an active FFXIV account was supposed to get the invitation right?

Now tell me dear SE, for the love of god WHY??? :mad:

It was a kind of application site bug? If this was wanted? Just need clarification about this.

I totally agree with you on that man. I know couple guys who barely loged in 1-3 times a mounth and got an invite today...ppl who struggled since CE edition pre-release and all the time till the servers went down, dont deserve a shit...
11-27-2012, 02:28 AM
Exn

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Originally Posted by Elexia

There's some pictures I can't link lol.

Yep, but they're more poking fun at people being overly excited/upset about the selection when the Alpha isn't really something that should peak this much emotion over it.

Really? This much emotion? I seem to remember more emotion about 'grass' and 'ruining immersion'. Today seems more like a typical response from people who had no idea of what SE's selection priorities would be. I don't get how they though, of all the groups, are confused about it... they have to see that SE caters to them first and formost (which is understandable of course). And have they seen the stuff people will get emotional about here? Lol. This is still just small potatoes. I don't even think I heard anyone mention /ragequit.. /rage mayhaps, but it is Monday afterall..
11-27-2012, 02:28 AM
Kallera

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Originally Posted by Dimitsuri

I totally agree with you on that man. I know couple guys who barely loged in 1-3 times a mounth and got an invite today...ppl who struggled since CE edition pre-release and all the time till the servers went down, dont deserve a shit...

You clearly aren't that angry about it....
11-27-2012, 02:29 AM
HiirNoivl

I find it oddly funny that NA players care more about the game than JP.........
11-27-2012, 02:30 AM
whoopeeragon

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

I find it oddly funny that NA players care more about the game than JP.........

English community cares more about getting in than testing.

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