TGS Trailer ahoy!

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Originally Posted by gahoo

Sorry to disappoint, but we confirmed with SE and this was not a PS3 trailer.

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http://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/Th...7c05acdf2b.jpg

ARR is PEGI 16 now? more violence?

http://www.askaboutgames.com/wp-cont...06/pegi-16.jpg

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

Doesn't matter if the trailer was from the PC/PS3 version or even if it was video lag. The release of that trailer in that state is clearly unacceptable for a game that needs to prove itself. I would really like an explanation as to why that trailer was green lit because all it has done is caused further damage to the names reputation.

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Simply this. :mad:

There's the possibility that Game-Watch was wrong and assumed that was the PS3 version. Gahoo of Gamerescape has said SE confirmed it wasn't the PS3 version which does clear up some of my concerns, but still I don't understand why anyone would release a trailer in that state. It's already on the net being torn apart causing more damage then a promotional trailer should be.

Either that or who's lien? Square or Game-Watch?

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Originally Posted by Evangelus

ARR is PEGI 16 now?

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Yeah 16 frames per second.

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Originally Posted by Colino

Yeah 16 frames per second.

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True story. rotfl :D

It might be important for SE's marketing team to do some benchmarking before putting these things out.

Then again, it could be that the Dev team is just doing their own marketing... which is a very bad idea.

Granted, I actually liked watching it because there were bits of new stuff we hadn't seen before in it, but compared to other MMO trailers, it fell FAR short of where it needed to be.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

An you'd be 100% incorrect, because there's games with better graphics that's crossplatform. Stop whining about the PS3.

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examples? which MMO on PS3? DC: Universe?

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Originally Posted by Colino

Yeah 16 frames per second.

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ROFL well played.

NovaCrystallis says they've confirmed it's the PS3 version... Someone is fucking up.

http://www.novacrystallis.com/?p=3545

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Originally Posted by TimonLoon

NovaCrystallis says they've confirmed it's the PS3 version... Someone is fucking up.

http://www.novacrystallis.com/?p=3545

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Then why is there copy/pasted footage from the limit break trailer which was for PC?

All of this is a fucking mess.

Can i have a reply from Bayohne or Rukkirii ;_;

ps3 or not ps3 ? -__-

Man I just rewatched it and the dragoon doing Dragonfire Dive looked AWFUL.

What the hell were they thinking?

Meh was using my phone to put that JP forum thread link so I guess it posted to the poster and not the first post in the thread - 2nd post actually brings up the talk about it showing PS3 on 4gamer

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Originally Posted by izayoi

こちらの記事書かれていましたがどうやらPS3版のトレーラーのようですね。
It's said in this article that this trailer is for PS3 version (link to 4 gamer article)
PC版にしてはのっぺり感が強い気がしたのですがPS3版であればかなり上出来ではないでしょうか。
現在も最適化中との事ですので、βではのっぺり感も少しはマシになるかもしれないですね。
For PC version this is very bland but if it's for PS3 I think it's pretty good. It also says that it's still being optimized so that bland feeling might get some what better.

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End also confirms it's stated that it's for PS3

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Originally Posted by End

GAME Watchと4Gamerの記事から、問題のTrailerはPS3版の物、と判断することができますね。
まあTGS自体、コンシューマがメインの式典なので、特に表記がなければ、コンシューマ版＝PS3版のTrailerであるのが普通ですからね。

From the articles from Game Watch (link) and 4Gamer we can conclude that this trailer in question is from PS3 version.
Well TGS it sell is mainly for consumers or so even if there was no note it's normal to believe consumer version = PS3 version trailer.

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Originally Posted by snow0331

PS3版の実機映像ということで書かせていただきますと、
画質はこんなもんだと思いますが、fpsがやばい。
トレントと戦っているシーンなどなどは20fpsを切ってますよね。たぶん。
あそこまでカクカクになると流石にキツイです。
PS3への最適化でマシになるのに期待です。
頑張ってください。

Writing from standpoint that this is actual video from PS3 version then the resolution is about right but the fps is really an issue. The scene where they fight the treant looks like it's below 20 fps, I think. Being that much choppy is going to be hard to take in. I look forward to PS3 getting better with optimization.
Good Luck (to devs)

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Then something happened... and we got this

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Originally Posted by Kristina_Farron

＃２で引用された4Gamer記事がいつの間に「本作のPC版がメガシアター映像作品として出展中」に変更されましたけど、どういう事でしょうか？
事実関係が錯綜気味ですから公式コメントが欲しいところですね。
The 4Gamer article on 2nd post got changed to "PC version is being displayed at the mega theater" what happened?
Would like comment from the official on which one as the there are some complication on the facts.

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Sorry if my last post from my phone confused some since I linked to the wrong post on the jp thread.

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I trust the devs but I would also like some clarification on this one... the video shown is not what we have been shown up till now... dunno why they would show this version at TGS... they shouldn't be getting negative comments like this and other articles that may come up talking about this trailer giving ARR negative feel to some players ><

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Originally Posted by Fusionx

We have confirmed with Square Enix's PR Manager that the trailer is a PC trailer, not a PS3 trailer. 4Gamer (the source novacrystallis cited) has removed the PS3 portion of their story.

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So it's PC version...................................

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Originally Posted by bobbygunz

Funny thing, that game is also seamless with no zone lines.

SE shrunk their zones to make them "look better" and still failed.

and woah
http://steparu.com/images/stories/0912/bdpa/26.jpg

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O_O

Wat Teh Fack

I'm pretty sure they are using photorealism for those faces lol.

And continuing my grass bitch, see the grass in the background. Thats grass. SE stop giving me ugly ass grass :D

/grass bitch off

Another Korean mmo: http://youtu.be/l2jZbNHa3jc

Would like to point out it seems that NovaCrystallis also points out to 4Gamer as their "source" it's the PS3 version.

So either 4Gamer is guessing and this is a really big misunderstanding, or SE is really trying to hide how poor the PS3 version is at this point. It has since been removed.

We have confirmed with Square Enix's PR Manager that the trailer is a PC trailer, not a PS3 trailer. 4Gamer (the source novacrystallis cited) has removed the PS3 portion of their story.

Yeah, ARR isn't out till late 2013 when no one will really care at this point.

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Originally Posted by Fusionx

We have confirmed with Square Enix's PR Manager that the trailer is a PC trailer, not a PS3 trailer. 4Gamer (the source novacrystallis cited) has removed the PS3 portion of their story.

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C-C-Combo Breaker! ( XD )

When everyone layed hope that was the ps3 version. Now we can pray it was the low end pc version.

I'm laughing sooo hard right now lol

Did you notice when the DRG fight against the Treant, the fps really goes down? (less than 10 prolly)

It's the same "bug" of the actual version, when you have the camera inside the leaf...

Shouldn't the new engine solve this issue....? :mad:

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

Did you notice when the DRG fight against the Treant, the fps really goes down? (less than 10 prolly)

It's the same "bug" of the actual version, when you have the camera inside the leaf...

Shouldn't the new engine solve this issue....? :mad:

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That wasn't the same thing at all. It drops because overall the video had FPS issues.

I'll post this one here as well. YoshiP just posted not too long ago.


TGS 2012 ARR Trailer up on youtube having issue

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

プロデューサ/ディレクタの吉田です。
Producer/Director Yoshida here,

素材は先日のプロデューサーレターLIVEのものよりも古く、
また、ライティングもまだまだ、場所によって調整中（ディファードは補足して頂いている通り）で、
髪の毛も、首追従物理も、フェイシャルも同様です。
The material is older than the Producer Letter Live and lighting is not complete, and in parts some are being adjusted still and this goes for hair, neck physics and facial.

ここまではある意味、素材撮りした時期としては想定内なのですが、
動画中のコマ落ちは明らかに想定外なので、現在調査を行っています。
本日（というか昨日）吉田はTGS会場で実際に確認していますが、
会場で放映されているものは全く問題ないため、エンコード問題の可能性が高いです。
Up to this part we already had in mind due to the timing we gathered these materials. But the frame drop in the movie was not something planned so currently we are investigating. Today (or more like yesterday) I went to TGS stage and checked but from the one shown on stage there is no issue so it's most likely encoding error.

本当に初歩的なミスで申し訳ないですが、はっきり原因が特定でき次第またご連絡します。
I really apologize for this basic miss but once the issue is confirmed we will update you.

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I am astounded at the number of posts here about ... nothing!
Between the real misinformation, false suspicions, soothsayers and blind ... My head explodes!

Oh, I know:> By time and toil we sever what strength and rage could never!!


Btw, it's NOT PS3 version i assume....

Well that is reassuring, too bad the rest of the people on the internet will never know that and take it as the game has fps problems.

Thanks as always Reinheart :)

Sad to say that I think the damage has already been done from this trailer, lots of people aren't thrilled with the low frame rate... even if they update it I'm not sure that everyone would even notice (they're not going to rewatch it again for example)

Thanks Rein again for your awesome translations! Good to see it was an error..I thought so lol there is no way SE would release something like that on purpose xD

It was fairly obvious to be an encoding error, but you can never know with this game now x.x

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

Thanks Rein again for your awesome translations! Good to see it was an error..I thought so lol there is no way SE would release something like that on purpose xD

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:| Did you really forget the removed animations? lol, don't be so quick to say they wouldn't do something on purpose.

Thank God. Now they need to remove it from the face of the earth until they fix the problems.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

I'll post this one here as well. YoshiP just posted not too long ago.

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

プロデューサ/ディレクタの吉田です。
Producer/Director Yoshida here,

素材は先日のプロデューサーレターLIVEのものよりも古く、
また、ライティングもまだまだ、場所によって調整中（ディファードは補足して頂いている通り）で、
髪の毛も、首追従物理も、フェイシャルも同様です。
The material is older than the Producer Letter Live and lighting is not complete, and in parts some are being adjusted still and this goes for hair, neck physics and facial.

ここまではある意味、素材撮りした時期としては想定内なのですが、
動画中のコマ落ちは明らかに想定外なので、現在調査を行っています。
本日（というか昨日）吉田はTGS会場で実際に確認していますが、
会場で放映されているものは全く問題ないため、エンコード問題の可能性が高いです。
Up to this part we already had in mind due to the timing we gathered these materials. But the frame drop in the movie was not something planned so currently we are investigating. Today (or more like yesterday) I went to TGS stage and checked but from the one shown on stage there is no issue so it's most likely encoding error.

本当に初歩的なミスで申し訳ないですが、はっきり原因が特定でき次第またご連絡します。
I really apologize for this basic miss but once the issue is confirmed we will update you.

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TGS 2012 ARR Trailer up on youtube having issue

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So basically nothing to worry about. I would have been surprised.

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The material is older than the Producer Letter Live

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This explain a lot

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Originally Posted by Elexia

It was fairly obvious to be an encoding error, but you can never know with this game now x.x



:| Did you really forget the removed animations? lol, don't be so quick to say they wouldn't do something on purpose.

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Yeah that still makes me sad :( But I gotta reserve judgement (Be it good or bad!) until 2.0 is out..if it ever comes out lol.

If the overall video has FPS issues, how come it only drops frames during gameplay footage?

The frame rate drop may have been an error but the real error was showing that trailer at TGS <_<

as I guess, devs may have their time all they need, but the marketing department is not

Well shit; I went to sleep pretty satisfied that this trailer was PS3 and I wake up to all these articles changing their titles and content to PC?

What the hell? It's simply confusing now because the previous trailers looked so good, and the game demos looked good too.
What is in the current trailer is........utterly horrible compared to what we have already seen.

Here's hoping it's low graphic settings on PC with some idiot who encoded the video poorly.

At this point I think it would be a good idea for SE to take the video off of their official YouTube channel and repost it once the frame rate issues have been resolved. It's true that the stuttering trailer has already made a negative impression on many of those who have viewed it. However, there are still a lot of people who haven't seen it, and are clicking the play button for the first time this very second. As long as that video is up in its current state, it's doing damage to the ARR brand.

While it would be impossible to wipe the video off the face of the internet (as the net tends to keep what you give to it), removing it from the official FFXIV YouTube channel would at least be an improvement. Hopefully they can resolve their encoding issue and get the video up in its proper form soon, but until that time this trailer is a liability.

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The material is older than the Producer Letter Live

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Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

This explain a lot

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The material being more than a week old explains a lot? Not quite sure how that works out.. but ok!

I'm curious...why did they show this trailer at the TGS? If the trailer is so old... Wouldn't have been better to show the limit break trailer instead? Am i missing something?

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Originally Posted by SodRansom

I'm curious...why did they show this trailer at the TGS? If the trailer is so old... Wouldn't have been better to show the limit break trailer instead? Am i missing something?

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Every now and then SE likes to show the world it does what it wants. No matter the consequences.