Play other games :)

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Not sure what kinda response you want. It's not out yet? I leveled all classes in Beta. I'm very hype.
June 2nd - Basically my whole FC / Friend list will be on that for a bit.

Remember, you can play and root for more than 1 franchise. :o

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You finished everything? Oh so the content is dead then. Well that was quick.








Just going by your previous logic

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You finished everything? Oh so the content is dead then. Well that was quick.


Just going by your previous logic

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No - It's not online, I can't play it.


You're just out for blood or something. Too bad I'm already anemic, haha gottem! Wait.. :eek:

And sure, some day - When or if Diablo 4 messes up or fails to deliver, I'll let them know.

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No - It's not online, I can't play it.


You're just out for blood or something. Too bad I'm already anemic, haha gottem! Wait.. :eek:

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Naw im just waiting with the honeymoon phase. I say honeymoon because so far you sing praises to other games without pointing out its faults. Its really no different to when the WoW crowd came to this game and started being starry-eyed about everything.

Unlike me who is currently playing and enjoying other games such as Dragonflight, ESO (havent much talked about this one yet) and FFXI but still point out shit thats bad about it. Its hard to take someone seriously without them taking some perspective

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Naw im just waiting with the honeymoon phase. I say honeymoon because so far you sing praises to other games without pointing out its faults. Its really no different to when the WoW crowd came to this game and started being starry-eyed about everything.

Unlike me who is currently playing and enjoying other games such as Dragonflight, ESO (havent much talked about this one yet) and FFXI but still point out shit thats bad about it. Its hard to take someone seriously without them taking some perspective

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I don't like ESO, I enjoy Dragonflight but have some choice words for it, I also really love XI right now but definitely point out it's flaws.

If I buy a game, and then they also want an active subscription, and only get to really play it for a few hours every 4 months.. I think there's a problem. But you know what, we won't get into that debate. We've had it several times. We both live on these forums, and you're actively trying to bug me for excitement or something. Maybe you're bored too. lol

Thing is, we're on the XIV forums, so no you're prob not gonna hear much about Dragonflight from me. I didn't even talk that much about Diablo, you're crazy.

XI feels like something I've been looking for, for a long time. Which is a tough, soloable FF game. So forgive me for sending praise for a game that gets shafted by others. I didn't even see the appeal until recently when I was so bored I decided to bash my head in with the sledgehammer that is PlayOnline. You thought setting up XIV was tough!? Damn, XI is ROUGH. lol

I have to preface to my friends, I love XI so far - But if they want to play, please let me set it up for them, or they're going to get super frustrated and quit.

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I don't like ESO, I enjoy Dragonflight but have some choice words for it, I also really love XI right now but definitely point out it's flaws.

If I buy a game, and then they also want an active subscription, and only get to really play it for a few hours every 4 months.. I think there's a problem. But you know what, we won't get into that debate. We've had it several times. We both live on these forums, and you're actively trying to bug me for excitement or something. Maybe you're bored too. lol

Thing is, we're on the XIV forums, so no you're prob not gonna hear much about Dragonflight from me. I didn't even talk that much about Diablo, you're crazy.

XI feels like something I've been looking for, for a long time. Which is a tough, soloable FF game. So forgive me for sending praise for a game that gets shafted by others. I didn't even see the appeal until recently when I was so bored I decided to bash my head in with the sledgehammer that is PlayOnline. You thought setting up XIV was tough!? Damn, XI is ROUGH. lol

I have to preface to my friends, I love XI so far - But if they want to play, please let me set it up for them, or they're going to get super frustrated and quit.

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Im at work. But you are also talking about a game you yourself have yet to reach endgame yet so you cant try to sell people on an retaining MMO experience when youre gushing about the early game experience. I say this since you obviously brought up the current retention content of FFXIV in defense of FFXI.

I love FFXI but we have to be realistic about it because the current version of the game is not the quality and experience that most veterans remember FFXI for. All I ask is for you to be genuine and fair rather than sing praises in order to color one game being so bad than the other. I never followed the WoW bad, FF good crowd, nor do I think the vice versa should be done.

Its why I said that FFXI is a guide game and not something modern players should get into blindly.

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Im at work. But you are also talking about a game you yourself have yet to reach endgame yet so you cant try to sell people on an retaining MMO experience when youre gushing about the early game experience. I say this since you obviously brought up the current retention content of FFXIV in defense of FFXI.

I love FFXI but we have to be realistic about it because the current version of the game is not the quality and experience that most veterans remember FFXI for. All I ask is for you to be genuine and fair rather than sing praises in order to color one game being so bad than the other. I never followed the WoW bad, FF good crowd, nor do I think the vice versa should be done.

Its why I said that FFXI is a guide game and not something modern players should get into blindly.

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Do you actively play XI or when is the last time you did? I’m just curious as I feel like I see a lot of people lately playing both

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Im at work. But you are also talking about a game you yourself have yet to reach endgame yet so you cant try to sell people on an retaining MMO experience when youre gushing about the early game experience. I say this since you obviously brought up the current retention content of FFXIV in defense of FFXI.

I love FFXI but we have to be realistic about it because the current version of the game is not the quality and experience that most veterans remember FFXI for. All I ask is for you to be genuine and fair rather than sing praises in order to color one game being so bad than the other. I never followed the WoW bad, FF good crowd, nor do I think the vice versa should be done.

Its why I said that FFXI is a guide game and not something modern players should get into blindly.

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If you've read my posts - I'm not even selling it as an MMO, even though it definitely is. So you're misunderstanding everything I've even been talking about. Why even bring up 'end-game'? If we're using my perspective, it's like bringing up 'end-game' for Elden Ring or something. I'm trying not to be an MMO Goblin here, and I'm treating XI differently.

Just like how my friends in WoW completely destroy that game just to get to raid, and I just casually experience the world.

I'm advising that if Final Fantasy fans have passed up XI altogether (like me, because of people like you), and they're playing XIV but are bored during lulls - Then I think it's a great experience. Tough, and yeah you'll need a guide for things, definitely more than you think. But it's something I really think even non-MMO people need to try now that Trusts are in, and exp isn't super slow. It's been a really fun FF filled adventure so far.

So us even talking about WoW, or the MMO portion of XI - Is completely beside the point.

Which is funny, because this was my same perspective with Diablo 4. I liked that it let me experience the world casually with my friends and SO. It doesn't railroad me like D1-D3 did.

Three things super important for me in every game I play:

1. Atmosphere
2. Ease of coop
3. Build variety

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Not sure what kinda response you want. It's not out yet? I leveled all classes in Beta. I'm very hype.
June 2nd - Basically my whole FC / Friend list will be on that for a bit.

Remember, you can play and root for more than 1 franchise. :o

I do technically prefer FF, but that's just because it has a wider variety of stories. So easier to connect with. lol

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Good luck with how blizzard is starting to mess up in WoW and the Overwatch 2 disaster Diablo IV better be a knockout experience.

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Good luck with how blizzard is starting to mess up in WoW and the Overwatch 2 disaster Diablo IV better be a knockout experience.

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Considering Blizzard's constant missteps, it won't be a knockout. They just canceled the PvE content for Overwatch 2, which is the only reason why anybody bought it.

Threw in Horizon Forbidden West. Got turned around, rode straight into a Thunderjaw site, and after a long battle where I apparently didn't have a decent bow with shock arrows or tear arrows, barely managed to bring it down, only to get finished off by a random patrol of Rebels with Acid Bristlebacks. Business as usual.

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Threw in Horizon Forbidden West. Got turned around, rode straight into a Thunderjaw site, and after a long battle where I apparently didn't have a decent bow with shock arrows or tear arrows, barely managed to bring it down, only to get finished off by a random patrol of Rebels with Acid Bristlebacks. Business as usual.

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I played the first one. Never got to finish it because I got into breaking the game and maxing out all skills by about...40% into the story?

I am however starting playthrough #637 of Fallout 4. Doing a punching build. I punch...they explode. It's good times.

Yup.

ERP/Mare/Venues / +18 "events" took the direction of the game community years ago.

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Im at work. But you are also talking about a game you yourself have yet to reach endgame yet so you cant try to sell people on an retaining MMO experience when youre gushing about the early game experience. I say this since you obviously brought up the current retention content of FFXIV in defense of FFXI.

I love FFXI but we have to be realistic about it because the current version of the game is not the quality and experience that most veterans remember FFXI for. All I ask is for you to be genuine and fair rather than sing praises in order to color one game being so bad than the other. I never followed the WoW bad, FF good crowd, nor do I think the vice versa should be done.

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Honestly I used to be one of the FFXI players that hated how much it had changed since I played it back in the CoP/ToAU/WotG era, but then I tried it out again last year and really enjoyed the changes. It has changed to be significantly more friendly to newer players as compared to the old days (other than the insanity to installing the game), but I do agree you need the BG wiki open to actually get through most of the game as there are a lot of systems that are not intuitive or even you won't know exist unless you are looking at a guide (Limit breaks as an example). That being said, almost all content in FFXI still has a purpose which cannot be said in FFXIV. Dynamis still has all of your relic armor drops which you need to have so you can upgrade into the level 99 version of it, Temenos and Apollyon still have a use as the level 75 earrings are crazy good, Abyssea still is extremely useful for the drops there. That is the big difference on the content-side of things, there is literal years of things to do when you hit max level in FFXI just to gear a single job if you want to go hard into your REAM weapons. That being said, I agree that you should go into FFXI with eyes wide open as it can be a serious time investment if you want it to be, though the same can be said of FFXIV and the time investment for the story.

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Considering Blizzard's constant missteps, it won't be a knockout. They just canceled the PvE content for Overwatch 2, which is the only reason why anybody bought it.

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Wait, you can buy Overwatch 2?
I thought it was F2P

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Wait, you can buy Overwatch 2?
I thought it was F2P

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I don't even know at this point. I remembered the original announcement where they wanted you to spend like $40-60 for it.

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I don't even know at this point. I remembered the original announcement where they wanted you to spend like $40-60 for it.

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The Original Overwatch was $60, then its gone on sale multiple times as low as $40...from what Ive seen at least.
Overwatch 2 they turned it into a F2P, but I think with the Hyped PVE mode, they were going to charge for that.....and with it now gone, Overwatch to me is Dead.

Thats the ONE thing I wanted for that game to....the events give nuggets of Story and Lore. Maybe it wouldn't have been anything A-MEI-Zing...but it still would have been cool to do a Full-Fledged Campaign. Ah well. It was nice while it lasted. Blizzard just has nothing for me now

OW2 was free but Blizzard's reason for releasing a whole "new" game instead of a patch for OW1 was the inclusion of PvE content to it. Obviously that isn't happening so OW2 is a glorified store and monetization patch for OW1. Makes even more sense why the lead for Overwatch quit.

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OW2 was free but Blizzard's reason for releasing a whole "new" game instead of a patch for OW1 was the inclusion of PvE content to it. Obviously that isn't happening so OW2 is a glorified store and monetization patch for OW1. Makes even more sense why the lead for Overwatch quit.

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But it was a patch for the game... its literally just CSGO2 except because its Blizzard people had a meltdown over it.

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Considering Blizzard's constant missteps, it won't be a knockout. They just canceled the PvE content for Overwatch 2, which is the only reason why anybody bought it.

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Local furball that is treated by the company he viciously defends as second class trying to damage control the pathetic state of the game by trying to downplay other games with factually incorrect information.

I'm back from a long break. Refreshed, but still finding it hard to do anything.

After completing the previous tier I was of a mind to put a bit of distance between myself and 14. I'd been playing all through covid, and Shb through EW was the longest I've held a consistent subscription. Lots of my aches and pains I ascribed to overexposure. Didn't care about the patch content or anything after the ARR story wrapped up - so I just needed time to get ready to embark on the next adventure. I'll get over all the little issues I've had, and they will seem very small in time.

So I took that break. I unsubbed for months, because that's what I'm supposed to do, right? Except I'm feeling the same as I did at the end of Asph. I'm still bored with how my favorite roles play. I've poured over the LLs, all communication, and seeing the same problems unaddressed and they still bother me.

May be my last month, but I'm going to poke around and give it my best try.

Anyone recommend any good PS5 MMO/Shooting/RPG online games?

Demon Souls remake is superb, though a bit easy compared to later Souls games.