Garuda's Wings Clipped: "Where The Wind Blows"

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Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna

I know you're trying really hard to draw me into a troll fight or something but I'm not arguing your point at all. Im just saying your way isnt my way, and im not going to complain about the consequences of my playstyle. What exactly is your issue with me again? Just curious lol

EDIT: I mean really, is there somethign inherently bad about me only playing 2 classes? And if im not grinding im mining. Thus I say I dont really have time. I'm not trying to say my life > yours...im jus sayin I spend my time the way I do, and it does not allow for me to be lvling all the classes. It just doesn't. Thats not even fun for me, and why would i play a game in a way thats not fun?

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I have nothing against you, sorry for making it seem that way, was trying to debate your points, sorry if they came off a little strong, just sucks when everyone is butthurt about community driven aspects.. and yes I do understand your points but I am saying if they content isn't favored to the job of your liking, then what shall you do? and some points aren't exactly directed at you because you do have versatility, mainly for the people who are MNK onry or DRG onry..

this thread is all just people's opinions and reminds me of 5th grade sociology.....maybe 3rd grade...how old are you before you start taking resposibility for your actions? Whatever age that is...that is what this thread reminds me of....no one, not a single soul is dictating how you play a video game, except for you.

Oh and grats on the win.^^

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

Most setups work fine for everything. It's more about learning the strategy with a certain setup.

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Exactly. I've been saying the same thing since page 2. Melee setups work fine in the fight and will secure you a win. Ranged DD works fine and will secure you a win. Heavy Magic damage works fine and will secure you a win. One of every class - played at their very best optimal performance will do fine and secure you a win.

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Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz

I have nothing against you, sorry for making it seem that way, was trying to debate your points, sorry if they came off a little strong, just sucks when everyone is butthurt about community driven aspects.. and yes I do understand your points but I am saying if they content isn't favored to the job of your liking, then what shall you do? and some points aren't exactly directed at you because you do have versatility, mainly for the people who are MNK onry or DRG onry..

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Well thats why I started lvling arc, because it was getting obvious i didnt have a whole lot of choice if I wanted to do pugs. Of course if you do limit yourself, its not fair to be butthurt. Feel free to criticize stupidity and the herd mentality, I do that all the time...but it is waht it is and any player has to learn to adapt. In trying arc i found it really fun, and hell I might main arc over my DRG once i get it capped. I certainly have fun with it.

And no offense taken I was just clarifying your stance lol. I debate that way too so I thought i'd ask before I took it the wrong way >_> I know how it goes lol

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

We ALL want to use PLD the problem is it's inefficient to atm with it being nerfed so heavily. I guarantee you that in 1.22a/b when they nerf WAR and buff PLD we will use PLD to main tank. We're all about efficiency and atm WAR is a better tank so we use it. We use multiple MNKs on Mistress we use multiple LNC on Princess. It depends on the encounter and on the situation and who's in your party. You seem to think the classes are heavily unbalanced in all content yet fail to realize that they are more balanced then they've ever been and each has it's own special place in every encounter.

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Two encounters versus how many major battles? I look forward to be proven wrong about Paladin in the letter patch.

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Originally Posted by ChickNorris

this thread is all just people's opinions and reminds me of 5th grade sociology.....maybe 3rd grade...how old are you before you start taking resposibility for your actions? Whatever age that is...that is what this thread reminds me of....no one, not a single soul is dictating how you play a video game, except for you.

Oh and grats on the win.^^

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A single person's actions are exactly 1/8th the majority's opinion in this case.

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Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna

Well thats why I started lvling arc, because it was getting obvious i didnt have a whole lot of choice if I wanted to do pugs. Of course if you do limit yourself, its not fair to be butthurt. Feel free to criticize stupidity and the herd mentality, I do that all the time...but it is waht it is and any player has to learn to adapt. In trying arc i found it really fun, and hell I might main arc over my DRG once i get it capped. I certainly have fun with it.

And no offense taken I was just clarifying your stance lol. I debate that way too so I thought i'd ask before I took it the wrong way >_> I know how it goes lol

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Oh yes I get that and that is true, always good to challenge and to push your team.. and I see you're on my server.. PM me your availability, I can PL you while I PL my alt to 40 :P if you wish.

I wish Ragns or daddy Isladar had admin accounts to post on these forums, on behalf of BG

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Originally Posted by ThePatriarch

I wish Ragns or daddy Isladar had admin accounts to post on these forums, on behalf of BG

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They aren't part of FFXIV BG >_>

That awkward moment when you realize Blue Garter isn't BlueGartr

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

They aren't part of FFXIV BG >_>

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I know, I just think feel that the sheer presence of them on these boards would bring great things.

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Originally Posted by Rau

That awkward moment when you realize Blue Garter isn't BlueGartr

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And then comes the awkward moment when you realize that the BG someone was talking about was indeed not the BG you assumed he was talking about. So much awkawrd

I could even take some Qalbert on here

I agree that it is better to be versitile but what about the people who hate healing with a passion, what about the people that hate ARC with a passion, what about the people who hate nuking with a passion, not everyone likes playing everything and once the community sees a way to do something they will mimic it to get wins, then keep mimicing it because thats how they know the fight, and before long the people who hate leveling the in demand classes get forgotten about. But what the hell, I am in a party on DRG and I'm working out how to do the fight on DRG, if it takes me 1 month for a win I dont care because I am enjoying myself (quick arrest me now, you can't enjoy yourself on FFXIV)

Hey guys what's up

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Originally Posted by Xoo

A single person's actions are exactly 1/8th the majority's opinion in this case.

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What do you mean Xoo?

One person is resposible for how you play, that is you. What the heck do you care about any opinon otherwise? Additionally, these strange associations and arguments propped up with emotional singlarity exapanded to some blanket cover of the entire population is a bit odd.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

I agree that it is better to be versitile but what about the people who hate healing with a passion, what about the people that hate ARC with a passion, what about the people who hate nuking with a passion, not everyone likes playing everything and once the community sees a way to do something they will mimic it to get wins, then keep mimicing it because thats how they know the fight, and before long the people who hate leveling the in demand classes get forgotten about. But what the hell, I am in a party on DRG and I'm working out how to do the fight on DRG, if it takes me 1 month for a win I dont care because I am enjoying myself (quick arrest me now, you can't enjoy yourself on FFXIV)

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So go play your dragoon and get out of this thread, you're polluting it with your nonsense...

I'm sorry BG, but until you post a vid of you doing a speed run with PLD x 8 in full Dream Suit AF then you shall get no respect from me.


Scrubs.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

I agree that it is better to be versitile but what about the people who hate healing with a passion, what about the people that hate ARC with a passion, what about the people who hate nuking with a passion, not everyone likes playing everything and once the community sees a way to do something they will mimic it to get wins, then keep mimicing it because thats how they know the fight, and before long the people who hate leveling the in demand classes get forgotten about. But what the hell, I am in a party on DRG and I'm working out how to do the fight on DRG, if it takes me 1 month for a win I dont care because I am enjoying myself (quick arrest me now, you can't enjoy yourself on FFXIV)

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

I'm sorry BG, but until you post a vid of you doing a speed run with PLD x 8 in full Dream Suit AF then you shall get no respect from me.


Scrubs.

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signed Jealous hater.. troll response is troll..

Bridge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that way..

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Originally Posted by ChickNorris

What do you mean Xoo?

One person is resposible for how you play, that is you. What the heck do you care about any opinon otherwise? Additionally, these strange associations and arguments propped up with emotional singlarity exapanded to some blanket cover of the entire population is a bit odd.

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This is what I mean.

Me: "Maybe a Paladin tank would be better?"
Party Leader: "Are you fucking kidding me? Wasting my goddamn time".
Rest of Party: *Silence* or "Yeah, let's stick with Warrior because we've lost the last 4 attempts.."

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Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz

signed Jealous hater.. troll response is troll..

Bridge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that way..

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You know they're friends right

right

actually what offended me... well not offended but pretty much made me ill was the level of ass kissing you subjected me to lmao...
what are you, their lap dog?
as for delsus... no idea who that is actually, i mean i did read his posts and yeah, i do agree with his sentiment but posting it in this thread wont be that productive.

start a thread if you feel strongly enough, look for a shell of like minded players or start one, make friends that have your mindset, theres tools given to us, lets use them to create our own community . pretty sure this thread is dead but theres my 2 cents

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Originally Posted by Xoo

This is what I mean.

Me: "Maybe a Paladin tank would be better?"
Party Leader: "Are you fucking kidding me? Wasting my goddamn time".
Rest of Party: *Silence* or "Yeah, let's stick with Warrior because we've lost the last 4 attempts.."

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Quit playing with PUGs??

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Originally Posted by Tsubarta

You know they're friends right

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Still sounds like a troll response.. and whether they were friends or not, it can still be taken in different contexts.. how am I supposed to know they were friends?

whos friends?!

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Originally Posted by Xoo

This is what I mean.

Me: "Maybe a Paladin tank would be better?"
Party Leader: "Are you fucking kidding me? Wasting my goddamn time".
Rest of Party: *Silence* or "Yeah, let's stick with Warrior because we've lost the last 4 attempts.."

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Basically, you're not going to sway your party/leader into allowing you to play a less-favored job unless you're good friends or the fight is something like Ogre. They're going to say, "Get on this job, or get out of the group because BLM's are a dime a dozen".

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Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz

signed Jealous hater.. troll response is troll..

Bridge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that way..

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I burned it so he's stuck here. :P

Sarcasm aside, I agree with a majority about pigeonholing and bandwagons and whatnot, but neither side has really come up with any new argument to support their case besides repeating themselves in a much more louder/threatening tone with each new post..

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

whos friends?!

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You and Chutulu(sp?) please confirm this Rich :P

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Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz

You and Chutulu(sp?) please confirm this Rich :P

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I can confirm I have no idea who that person is but that doesn't mean we can't be friends! ;o

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

I can confirm I have no idea who that person is but that doesn't mean we can't be friends! ;o

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hahah thanks for the confirmation lol, looks like you were wrong Tsubarta Morthanc :) Troll was troll, but a troll friend soon to be!!!

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Originally Posted by Keftenk

Well, it's not like SE has shown us they can create "hard" content, unless its in the form of something ridiculously absurd such as Absolute Virtue. The only reason why Ifrit took so long to kill was because of the terribad server structure and animation lag that plagued the instance and fight.

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Lol, wrf are you talking about? Can't you see they communicate, have probably the best gear in the game, triple, or 4meld shit. Took them 32 tries and you say it isn't hard? Yeah, did you kill it? They killed it in little under 8min. I saw a 8min video from mog posted on YouTube and they got owned when 3 Garudas showed up and her hp wasn't close to die, maybe 1/4. Go cry in a corner you jealous #\%\^\^.

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/em hugs Richard inappropriately. Friends? News to me. I got some AF with VV last patch, but that's about all the contact I've had with BG until I just touched Richard. Also, not jealous. Check my lodestone history. I didn't even have to do the fight. Louie offered me the quest and I just stared at him until he said "Oh... right." and gave me the win.



(p.s. - Richard, call me. (I had fun today))

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Originally Posted by Noir

Lol, wrf are you talking about? Can't you see they communicate, have probably the best gear in the game, triple, or 4meld shit. Took them 32 tries and you say it isn't hard? Yeah, did you kill it? They killed it in little under 8min. I saw a 8min video from mog posted on YouTube and they got owned when 3 Garudas showed up and her hp wasn't close to die, maybe 1/4. Go cry in a corner you jealous #\%\^\^.

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That was like our 8th-10th try not our 32nd so don't down play us because we haven't killed it yet we were trying which is more then I can say for most that were watching us "fail." Hating on the hater to become a hater is kind of just as bad, but cool story bro~!

lol @ all of you for crying about stacking BLM or stacking jobs in general. It's a strat that works.. deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Noir

Lol, wrf are you talking about? Can't you see they communicate, have probably the best gear in the game, triple, or 4meld shit. Took them 32 tries and you say it isn't hard? Yeah, did you kill it? They killed it in little under 8min. I saw a 8min video from mog posted on YouTube and they got owned when 3 Garudas showed up and her hp wasn't close to die, maybe 1/4. Go cry in a corner you jealous #\%\^\^.

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Lol wth? Is this WoW where gear is needed to determine a successful win? Nope.

I've been supporting BG with all these people whining about class stacking. The content isn't hard, simple as that. No, I haven't had the chance to even do the 40 version of Garuda. I'm not saying that skill isn't involved, just in comparison to fights that many others have experienced not just in FF, but other games. This is at the bottom of the barrel. The fight is more about the concept rather then actual hard mechanics to overcome. As BG said themselves, it's really just about hiding behind the rocks and dealing with the adds. How is that hard?

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Originally Posted by Keftenk

Lol wth? Is this WoW where gear is needed to determine a successful win? Nope.

I've been supporting BG with all these people whining about class stacking. The content isn't hard, simple as that. No, I haven't had the chance to even do the 40 version of Garuda. I'm not saying that skill isn't involved, just in comparison to fights that many others have experienced not just in FF, but other games. This is at the bottom of the barrel. The fight is more about the concept rather then actual hard mechanics to overcome. As BG said themselves, it's really just about hiding behind the rocks and dealing with the adds. How is that hard?

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How about you try the fight first? That could help.

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Originally Posted by Keftenk

As BG said themselves, it's really just about hiding behind the rocks and dealing with the adds. How is that hard?

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We never said this was the extent to the fight lol. Garuda still requires the highest amount of performance and execution in any fight we've had so far in FFXIV. It's not a push over and a lot of people won't be clearing it anytime soon. If you can't do high DPS you wont even see Phase 2. If you manage to scrounge by Phase 2 and you don't continue high DPS you will likely be burned down in Phase 4.

No its not AV. No it's not Yogg 0 Lights. It is the hardest fight we've had in the game so far overall because Ifrit's bullshit server/animation lock is not fresh and it doesn't really affect you in this fight.

Lol, why am I the one being flamed? I'm not accusing anyone of anything, just simply stating the fight isn't really as hard as people claim. As I'm entitled too and what will most definitely be the truth. It's not like I run with some ragtag of shit players in my LS. Just like AV, CC, and Mog before it, Garuda will be no different in terms of how "difficult" it will be. It's not talking smack, it's just how SE does content. It's how they've almost always done content in not just 14, but in 11 as well.

If you think for a second that BG is the only exception to the "its not that hard" rule, you're kidding yourselves. There are plenty of groups across all the servers that are as good or just as good as BG. All about execution and repetition, don't know why people don't understand that.

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Originally Posted by Keftenk

Lol wth? Is this WoW where gear is needed to determine a successful win? Nope.

I've been supporting BG with all these people whining about class stacking. The content isn't hard, simple as that. No, I haven't had the chance to even do the 40 version of Garuda. I'm not saying that skill isn't involved, just in comparison to fights that many others have experienced not just in FF, but other games. This is at the bottom of the barrel. The fight is more about the concept rather then actual hard mechanics to overcome. As BG said themselves, it's really just about hiding behind the rocks and dealing with the adds. How is that hard?

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try it, go try it if you think you can do it