World Transfer Applications Begin (03/01/2012)

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Lodestone page doesnt update instatly, itl update several times a day so when it updates thats when you may be able to choose a server again

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Not true, as ive been sitting here watching my program run ive seen a few servers turn to triangle for a few seconds then drop back to X.

I can't believe I logged in and was told all the servers were full. That is a total lie. And the customer support is no help they are rude and basically said thats the way it is. The only one not full was the european server they created. NA players get screwed thanks Square

@Liliya Whats funny about that, is my main character(s) are on Besaid currently, so if Masamune ever opens up again some spots on Besaid should as well. but, where you do have a new character it should be pretty easy to just simply re-roll on Besaid. Whereas thats where me and myIRL friends are going to have problems unless we can all go to the same server. We can't easily reroll since we have a couple of level 50s as it is

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Originally Posted by twili

I can't believe I logged in and was told all the servers were full. That is a total lie. And the customer support is no help they are rude and basically said thats the way it is. The only one not full was the european server they created. NA players get screwed thanks Square

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What do you want a customer rep to do? Kick people out of their server for you? Also, all servers full is a lie. There's Ridill and Ragnarok waiting for you.

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Originally Posted by Isanien

Quick question: I'm a player on server Besaid. If I do nothing, and just keep my account active, will I end up on Balmung? Is that how it's working now?

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Yes, that's what option 2 is.

Part of me wishes that option 1 would happen, but then I took a Balmung to the knee and decided to stay.

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Originally Posted by Liliya

Not even the first day - the first MINUTE. I stayed up to be able to transfer to Balmung, and at 3:01 AM four servers already showed an X. The others went down quickly after.

I'm a new player, so I had no part in this option whining everyone seems to be talking about. Initially I hadn't realized Besaid was the unofficial RP server, so now unless the servers open up later (which seems unlikely), I'm stuck with a server I don't feel comfortable in...or forced to reroll on Besaid.

Also, for those quoting SE and claiming they spelled it out for us: "very soon after" is a bit of an understatement, don't you think?

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If you are a new player, why don't you just reroll on Besaid? Then you will end up on Balmung. It's not like you have much to lose at this point that you couldn't gain again in the span of 2 days.

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Originally Posted by Filtiarne

Not true, as ive been sitting here watching my program run ive seen a few servers turn to triangle for a few seconds then drop back to X.

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Your program will catch it if it's crawling the database which updates itself quicker and more often than the lodestone display would.

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Originally Posted by Filtiarne

Not true, as ive been sitting here watching my program run ive seen a few servers turn to triangle for a few seconds then drop back to X.

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I'm guessing the triangles are periodically calculated and the exes are real time, since you kind of need to know if a server's full.

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Originally Posted by Answa

What do you want a customer rep to do? Kick people out of their server for you? Also, all servers full is a lie. There's Ridill and Ragnarok waiting for you.



Yes, that's what option 2 is.

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I actually liked the first option. And I called a rep because I cannot believe that there are that many people and not enough server room, right now the character isn't active so I was calling to see if my character needed to be active. I thought it was totally wrong how it went down. I don't want to explain the situation but I have to get my character off the server. And this was my only opportunity. So maybe before you troll and make rude comments to other people you should think that maybe not all people want to transfer just because they can but they might have personal situations they need to get away from.

FFXIV is a self-perpetuating lesson in dissapointment.

As usual I am 100% dissatisfied with BS like this.

Why even have a server change feature when SE already nearly capped every server?

So we all wasted our time debating over an option to later find it is offered without even a feasibly calculated overhead implemented which thus rendered it futile...

...not to mention that the transfers were activated at a time when the majority of the NA populace was asleep...

Genius strikes again. Granted some will and most likely already have voiced that they personally could care 2 f@cks less about the option to change servers.

Is it really about personal opinion at this point?

How about the issue of these types of oversights being common place nearly every step of this MMOs existence?

... Oh well things always get better eventually, right?... Right?

P.S. Everyone still playing ffxiv (myself included obviously) is knowingly or unknowingly daily practicing a well known spiritual concept called "Faith" by some and "Hope" by others :3

Anyone who thinks this is "the community's" fault is seriously white knighting. What has happened here is just another example of bad moves by SE. If you did not expect this to be a total mess whatsoever, no one can help you!

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

Anyone who thinks this is "the community's" fault is seriously white knighting. What has happened here is just another example of bad moves by SE. If you did not expect this to be a total mess whatsoever, no one can help you!

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Are you kidding me?

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

Anyone who thinks this is "the community's" fault is seriously white knighting. What has happened here is just another example of bad moves by SE. If you did not expect this to be a total mess whatsoever, no one can help you!

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actually the whole reason for the change was due to the JP complaining

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Originally Posted by Phrozen

actually the whole reason for the change was due to the JP complaining

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Oh, that's right. English speaking players had NOTHING to do with this at all...

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Originally Posted by Wynn

Oh, that's right. English speaking players had NOTHING to do with this at all...

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yes the NA's were all over the place about this merge, I was going for a straight server and server merge, no transfer to another server, just a straight server merge.

Now anyone who wants to transfer has to wait for the EU players to decide that its finally time for them to start getting along with each other. Otherwise the sh!t stays capped.

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Originally Posted by Wynn

Are you kidding me?

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No I'm not kidding you. You are going to blame the players for having an opinion? On a forum setup to discuss our opinions? SE should be at fault for listening then because they have the final say. What you're saying is SE is off the hook for:

- Generating different options (and initially proposing the dumbest one btw)
- Not realizing that certain options were not really feasible
- Being guilty of giving stupid people what they want
- Beginning this at some weird hour of the night for a lot of people
- Being generally unprepared for any of this crap.

We're paying customers. We clamor for "what we want" (or at least the vocal minority do), and you're gonna blame SE's incompetence on us? That's a joke if I've ever heard one. Perhaps if SE had some kinda clean track record when it came to these kindsa things I could chuckle a bit, but we all know that's not the case. This is a cluster**** as only SE can deliver, period.

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

No I'm not kidding you. You are going to blame the players for having an opinion? On a forum setup to discuss our opinions? SE should be at fault for listening then because they have the final say. What you're saying is SE is off the hook for:

- Generating different options (and initially proposing the dumbest one btw)
- Not realizing that certain options were not really feasible
- Being guilty of giving stupid people what they want
- Beginning this at some weird hour of the night for a lot of people
- Being generally unprepared for any of this crap.

We're paying customers. We clamor for "what we want" (or at least the vocal minority do), and you're gonna blame SE's incompetence on us?

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Lol, SE's "incompetence"....Yoshida decided on an option that worked out the best even if it may split off some people, players cried "nononono unfair to the inactive people and my friends who may not play!" SE listened to those cries, which is as you said, the point of these forums, then SE used the option that was more likely to create a mess, which hey look at that, a mess was created.

They weren't unprepared, they were well prepared for merging servers. Players just didn't like what they planned to do so you can't in any shape or form blame SE for this when it was the players who wanted them to change the way they did the merging.

We're paying customers but we're not always self-entitled to everything.

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

No I'm not kidding you. You are going to blame the players for having an opinion? On a forum setup to discuss our opinions? SE should be at fault for listening then because they have the final say. What you're saying is SE is off the hook for:

- Generating different options (and initially proposing the dumbest one btw)
- Not realizing that certain options were not really feasible
- Being guilty of giving stupid people what they want
- Beginning this at some weird hour of the night for a lot of people
- Being generally unprepared for any of this crap.

We're paying customers. We clamor for "what we want" (or at least the vocal minority do), and you're gonna blame SE's incompetence on us? That's a joke if I've ever heard one. Perhaps if SE had some kinda clean track record when it came to these kindsa things I could chuckle a bit, but we all know that's not the case. This is a cluster**** as only SE can deliver, period.

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Yes, I blame anyone who is ignorant to the facts spouting off opinions and demands. It is the cause of most of the world's problems. Shortly followed by the customer is always right mentality.

It went down like this.

SE announces the right choice.
Players form lynch mob.
SE gives in and gives players exactly what they want, the wrong choice.
Players come back and complain that SE gave them what they wanted once they realize what their choice actually meant.

Do I blame SE for that? Why would I? Why would you?

P.S. The "dumbest one" as you put it is exactly what you now want and are complaining about not having.

This forum is full of derp today and I love it.

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Originally Posted by Liliya

Not even the first day - the first MINUTE. I stayed up to be able to transfer to Balmung, and at 3:01 AM four servers already showed an X. The others went down quickly after.

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I think they were X from the beginning. They were closed 1 minute before it should've opened anyway. Yes, the transfer was open a minute before it's time.

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Originally Posted by Xianghua

Option 4 would not be capped because it wouldn't have inactive players as part of the equation as option 2 does.

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SE already said inactives are not counted

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Originally Posted by Wynn

Yes, I blame anyone who is ignorant to the facts...

...This forum is full of derp today and I love it.

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Since when is this forum not full of derp?

Not the 50 pages I wanted.
Quality over quantity though....

People are actually silly enough in the head to try and spin this as SE's fault.

SE WHY YOU NO LISTEN TO US!!!?
*SE listens*
SE WHY YOU LISTEN TO US!!!!????

Quick! Somebody call the WAANNNNNBULANCE. Who cares what server you're on. Stop being socially inept and make some new friends.

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Originally Posted by Chodo

Quick! Somebody call the WAANNNNNBULANCE. Who cares what server you're on. Stop being socially inept and make some new friends.

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Normally, you'd be right (somewhat) but you lose any and all credibility with your indirect insult at pretty much everyone whose ever had friends. :/ To put it another way, you cannot by all rights clump every one together in such a way and cry foul just because someone is complaining that they can't get on the right server. For example, you want to join IRL friends to enjoy the game with. Its not so much the server for me but the community associated with that server. People just need to have a bit more patience, that's a given. I don't normally reply to posts like this one as its often better not to, but just the way you said that rubbed me the wrong way. Anyway to wrap this up, just be patient everyone and hopefully a spot on whatever server you want will open up, we still have a couple weeks for SE to figure something out. Its only the first day.

Would you like some French Cries and a Wanburger with that?

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Originally Posted by Wynn

If you are a new player, why don't you just reroll on Besaid? Then you will end up on Balmung. It's not like you have much to lose at this point that you couldn't gain again in the span of 2 days.

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Two days, you say?! Haha. It may be that easy for you, but I only have one friend who plays and it's taken me about two and a half weeks to get to this point. (Don't laugh!) I suppose it would go faster now that I actually know what I'm doing, and of course since the Besaid community seems to be infinitely more helpful than Mysidia's, but the thought of rerolling makes me want to cry.

That being said, I actually got into Aegis so I have no idea how it's going to turn out; it could end up having a great community, or become a clusterf*ck of pissed off Balmung/Sargatanas/Masamune/etc rejects.

I'm just disappointed it was full from the start and now I can't hang out with all you Balmungians... Balmungers? ...whatever. It also sucks that some people want off the RP server but have nowhere to go now since they simply don't want to risk being stuck on The Rag.

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Originally Posted by Liliya

Two days, you say?! Haha. It may be that easy for you, but I only have one friend who plays and it's taken me about two and a half weeks to get to this point. (Don't laugh!) I suppose it would go faster now that I actually know what I'm doing, and of course since the Besaid community seems to be infinitely more helpful than Mysidia's, but the thought of rerolling makes me want to cry.

That being said, I actually got into Aegis so I have no idea how it's going to turn out; it could end up having a great community, or become a clusterf*ck of pissed off Balmung/Sargatanas/Masamune/etc rejects.

I'm just disappointed it was full from the start and now I can't hang out with all you Balmungians... Balmungers? ...whatever. It also sucks that some people want off the RP server but have nowhere to go now since they simply don't want to risk being stuck on The Rag.

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You'd make tons of friends in no time on Besaid. Seriously, RP aside, it's a great server. You should just reroll to Besaid.

@Liliya Me personally, its not so much that I want off the RP server, but more so I just want to be able to play with all of my friends, and most of them aren't/don't want to be on Besaid/Balmung. Not that that matters too much right now though, with the servers in chaos anyway untill they either up the capacity or something

Ridill is open again

EDIT: NVM LOL

yeah, ridill was open for 5 seconds, tops.

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Originally Posted by Liliya

Two days, you say?! Haha. It may be that easy for you, but I only have one friend who plays and it's taken me about two and a half weeks to get to this point. (Don't laugh!) I suppose it would go faster now that I actually know what I'm doing, and of course since the Besaid community seems to be infinitely more helpful than Mysidia's, but the thought of rerolling makes me want to cry.

That being said, I actually got into Aegis so I have no idea how it's going to turn out; it could end up having a great community, or become a clusterf*ck of pissed off Balmung/Sargatanas/Masamune/etc rejects.

I'm just disappointed it was full from the start and now I can't hang out with all you Balmungians... Balmungers? ...whatever. It also sucks that some people want off the RP server but have nowhere to go now since they simply don't want to risk being stuck on The Rag.

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Haha...I'm stuck on Balmung and I want to go to Aegis since my ls is moving there. I think everyone who wants to move should go to ragnarok to make room for other people. Maybe we should try to switch spots in hopes that no one snags it out from under us.

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Originally Posted by infinitylancer

Haha...I'm stuck on Balmung and I want to go to Aegis since my ls is moving there. I think everyone who wants to move should go to ragnarok to make room for other people. Maybe we should try to switch spots in hopes that no one snags it out from under us.

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This could really backfire. Do you really want to take the chance and get stuck on a server you don't want to be on? I know I wouldn't. If this is working like some people think, a one for one move isn't necessarily going to make that x go away if the server was over capacity to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Wynn

This could really backfire. Do you really want to take the chance and get stuck on a server you don't want to be on? I know I wouldn't. If this is working like some people think, a one for one move isn't necessarily going to make that x go away if the server was over capacity to begin with.

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Yeah, but at the moment, my friends from this server all left, and my RL friend from another server is full...so I got no one at the moment.

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Originally Posted by infinitylancer

Yeah, but at the moment, my friends from this server all left, and my RL friend from another server is full...so I got no one at the moment.

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That really sucks. I hope you are able to get into your sever eventually.

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Originally Posted by Liliya

Two days, you say?! Haha. It may be that easy for you, but I only have one friend who plays and it's taken me about two and a half weeks to get to this point. (Don't laugh!) I suppose it would go faster now that I actually know what I'm doing, and of course since the Besaid community seems to be infinitely more helpful than Mysidia's, but the thought of rerolling makes me want to cry.

That being said, I actually got into Aegis so I have no idea how it's going to turn out; it could end up having a great community, or become a clusterf*ck of pissed off Balmung/Sargatanas/Masamune/etc rejects.

I'm just disappointed it was full from the start and now I can't hang out with all you Balmungians... Balmungers? ...whatever. It also sucks that some people want off the RP server but have nowhere to go now since they simply don't want to risk being stuck on The Rag.

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Hey Liliya, im in Mysidia too, and same like u i started the game just a weeks ago, hope see u in game if u want contact me :) and be friends! ty ^^

So has it clicked with you all how it is going to work over the next few days or are you all still trying to eat soup with a fork?

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Originally Posted by Picoman

So has it clicked with you all how it is going to work over the next few days or are you all still trying to eat soup with a fork?

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And how, pray tell, would that be?

Wasn't the main point of the merge to be a merge? Its main purpose was not to be a transfer, it was to make populations larger. Thus is has succeeded.

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Originally Posted by kimoi

Wasn't the main point of the merge to be a merge? Its main purpose was not to be a transfer, it was to make populations larger. Thus is has succeeded.

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Maybe but they've marketed it to the players as a transfer so it is no wonder people are a bit confused now.