New Race Announced! The Au Ra

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Originally Posted by jomoru

Which to me is a perfectly damn reasonable response. "I like big tall men and petite women" is to me a reasonable statement. Trying to impose some sort of natural explanation in my mind is the crazy part.

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You and Nalien have been kinda just talking past each other. Its entirely likely that the devs/designers used multiple sources to influence the new race. As with some of the races in Eorzea, sexual dimorphism does exist in the game world, and is a fairly common stylistic choice employed by the designers. Honestly, the difference between males and females in the race are the same as those in the Roe, just in height rather than girth. Even though FemRoes are really buff in comparison to the other female models, a male roe looks nearly 200-ish pounds heavier at a similar position on the height-slider. In this case they went went with a universally slender design, then put the male and female models at the opposite ends of the height-spectrum. That puts the females in the category of slender, and the males in the category of lanky.

Its not odd, or at least any odder than everything else in-game.

I hope there'll be a non-scowl option for the men

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Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime

Now, I'm an SJW/Rad fem sympathizer. Lawl, Thanks.

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No problem. The shoe fits.


Also. Didn't you leave in a huff and block me? Shouldn't you be in your hug box on tumblr crying about this whole affair to the rest of your SJW fraternity?

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Originally Posted by jomoru

You do understand the difference between a Lion, which evolved in nature and something made by human beings right? You do understand Au'ra aren't real right?

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You are confused.

The argument, or rather, accusation, I am responding to is that it is sexist to have such a large physical difference between males and females. We can plainly see, in our real world, that there are many species, our own included, where males are larger, more muscular, and more physically intimidating then the females.

Why would it be sexist for an artist to then create a race of beings where the males are physically larger and more muscular than the females? Why should he conform to someone else's curious, and clearly unnatural, need to have females as large as/larger/identical to males? Someone who is not involved in the creation of this world or this race? And why is it sexist for him to portray a difference we so clearly see in our own world, in his own make believe world?

The idea that you can label someone's work as sexist when it mirrors what we plainly see in our real world, in nature, is what i take offence to. I am well aware of the difference between a fictional race of dragon people and actual lions.

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Originally Posted by Mahri

Reconsider what I just said. Mustn't. Not doesn't.

They're playing it safe, but they are capable of wilder ideas, and we are willing to receive them, so long as they were smartly designed. They could go way crazier with playable races. They didn't here, and even though it looks good, the general direction of opinion here seems to be that something more off-beat was desired.

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The general direction here is in no shape or form representative of what the general opinion of the playerbase is. The forums aren't, have never been and will never be.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Why exactly is it sexist for the females Au'Ra to be smaller?

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Absolutely nothing.

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Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime

Like this? I don't think the Au Ra sexual dimorphism is sexist, but guys come on... this is insane. It's like the opening paragraphs of a mass shooter's manifesto. Just replaced "ultra radical feminist" with a group of your choice: men, christians, lgbt people, a race, etc, and you pretty much have a peak inside the mind of a psychopath.

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"ultra radical" something groups are usually a bunch of insane people trying to enforce their biased opinions and paranoiac delirium into other people's throats. Doesn't matter if they are feminists, christians, lgbt or anything else. Ultra radical groups are hurting their cause way more than they help it.

I for one really like the new race and I'll be an Au'Ra femme day one:) I like my cat, but I identify more character-wise with the new race. They are petite, exotic, and still not overdone yet very pretty <3 I'm not particularly digging the males, but I'm going to wait until I see them in game before I pass any judgement on them. They might end up growing on me. I'm just hoping for a free Fantasia with the expansion, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

I'm extremely excited that they went with a new playable Draconic race, as that's what I voted for in the player poll! Thanks, Yoshi-P!

I love how the males look. Muscular and tough, yet not as beefy as male Roes or even quite as much as Highlanders. Great job!

However, I'm not happy with how the females look. I feel that the sexual dimorphism is too extreme. The females don't look "elegant and mysterious" to me, they look childlike and dainty. As someone else pointed out in this thread, the height difference is jarring.

Where are people getting that they are a combination of Elezen and Dravanian? I saw a FAN THEORY on reddit suggesting that they could be the descendants of Shiva, but nowhere in the stream did they say that. The only bit of lore I recall them releasing so far was that they would come from Ilsabard like Yugiri.

I'm switching to Au'Ra as soon as I could! I had to switch to miqote from elezen because I could no longer tolerate the disproporinate head and shoulders (head too small, shoulders too wide). Female Au'Ras look like how I wish elezen would be like. If they can be taller it would be awesome.

that sexism debate though O.o

Come on, "sexual dimorphism" could be worse anyway.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...pori_f_r16.jpg

what is this, Lineage II?

Do Not Want.

I was wondering, how badass would it be to have a female Au Ra in the DRK or WAR outfit ? Delicate creature with epic loads of badassery on the back.

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Originally Posted by Its_Elodie

I for one really like the new race and I'll be an Au'Ra femme day one:) I like my cat, but I identify more character-wise with the new race. They are petite, exotic, and still not overdone yet very pretty <3 I'm not particularly digging the males, but I'm going to wait until I see them in game before I pass any judgement on them. They might end up growing on me. I'm just hoping for a free Fantasia with the expansion, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

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Same here. Of course if I can't get my hands on a new fantasia potion I will have to settle for a retainer, but I always go for the most exotic race-class combo whenever I play. That will be Au-Ra astrologian. And besides. We need the insight of living as a half dragon if we want a just conlcusion to the war between Ishgard and the dravanian horde.

Still, I was surprised that we learned the new race like this. I always envisioned the reveal to come in-game from Yugiri. Now I know she looks cute.

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

really, stand a small Hyur Midlander F or Miqo'te F next to a tall Elezen M or Roegaden M(I think even tall Hyur Highlander M might fit this). if it's at odds with the current visuals it has been there all along. right from the start of 1.0

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Heck, when I stand my female Midlander Hyur next to my friend's female Roe, she barely comes up to my friend's character's chest. It's not as if the game doesn't have options for brawny, muscular women as it is. My girl is also pretty much exactly at Elezen armpit height, male or female.

because some people are throwing around this sexual dimorphism thing...

why not the other way round then?
more human looking males and more beastly looking females?

just saying.

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Originally Posted by Phe

because some people are throwing around this sexual dimorphism thing...

why not the other way round then?
more human looking males and more beastly looking females?

just saying.

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Could happen but then again even less people would play them than the already least played fem roe.

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

Come on, "sexual dimorphism" could be worse anyway.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...pori_f_r16.jpg

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Elin (left) 'created' the Popori (right). They are not the same race. :p

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Originally Posted by BunnyChain

Elin (left) 'created' the Popori (right). They are not the same race. :p

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In theory, they are.

http://tera.gamepedia.com/Popori

"The Popori are a group of animal like races living in the Popori Kingdom. The female part the Popori consist of the Elin. Small young-like woman who form the matriarchal part of their race."

yeah they did change the lore outside of Korea hehe

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

In theory, they are.

http://tera.gamepedia.com/Popori

"The Popori are a group of animal like races living in the Popori Kingdom. The female part the Popori consist of the Elin. Small young-like woman who form the matriarchal part of their race."

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According to this:
"The popori nation is made up of two distinct races. The elins—small female humanoids—were created by the goddess Elinu out of her own divine essence. The poporis are non-human beasts awakened to sentience by the elin."

On topic: Let's all go Lalafell, we have cookies and not much 'sexual dimorphism', it's pretty nice here. o/

xP

I am proud to be a lalafell, the most sexually indistinguishable race ever created. Alka Zolka man... I thought he was a dudette D:

They bare a lot of similarity to the Draenei in WoW in terms of look. Demonic race/Draconic race horns, largest sexual dimorphism compared to other races...yeah.

They look cool I think
I will stay a lala but will make my retainers Au ra just to have fun in with cutomization

So what's everyone's guess? How will the reveal come in-game? Will Yugiri remove her hood on purpose (to reassure a dragon or to intimidate a Garlean) or will it get knocked off in a fight?

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Originally Posted by Balipu

So what's everyone's guess? How will the reveal come in-game? Will Yugiri remove her hood on purpose (to reassure a dragon or to intimidate a Garlean) or will it get knocked off in a fight?

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Thancred surprise her while bathing

I LOVE the idea, given the expansion is set in Ishgard with the Dravanian lore. I really wish it didn't look so human with horns and a tail. More scales and more reptile looking features. Maybe make one clan more human and the other reptilian to give people choices?

At first, I was a bit disappointed because we got a reptilian race instead of Viera...but now seeing the females...I'm honestly okay with it.

I'll pass on the male atm unless there is some real good options there and then I'll change my soon to be Male Mi'Qote(I have ALOT of alts okay?) into him and I'll make the female into a DRK/Paladin combo.
2 different types of beast tanks.

Oh yeah, I also rep a Female Roe and next to my main Female Highlander, I love using her the most as a scholarly but will beat you into next week BLM.

I really like them, I'm torn between the male and female Au Ra though. They both look good, just in different ways.

Castanics incoming!

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/galler...anic_f_r25.jpg

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/galler...anic_m_l28.jpg

Was Hoping for something like that

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/galler...man_f_r18a.jpg

Was also hoping for a more intimidating woman model too, but it's nothing really to complain about. Femroe is there but they don't have the same badassery of male Au'ra.

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Originally Posted by Salaphiel

Castanics incoming!

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/galler...anic_f_r25.jpg

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/galler...anic_m_l28.jpg

Was Hoping for something like that

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/galler...man_f_r18a.jpg

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This is exactly what I've been thinking. They look like a mash-up of TERA's Castanics and Aman races (specifically, Castanic with some Aman features).

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Originally Posted by Cidel

This is exactly what I've been thinking. They look like a mash-up of TERA's Castanics and Aman races (specifically, Castanic with some Aman features).

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Yeah but I was hoping for something more "beastly" and hope there will be options! Kinda loved the Popori and Amani from Tera!

Dat male holy shit

All they need now is to allow me to shyvana into groups of enemies and sold sold sold

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Originally Posted by Dree-Elle

Well, I certainly wasn't expecting a reskinned Mi'qote. Something that looked a little less cheap and a little less ordinary would have been nice. You can be exotic without having digitigrade feet and a muzzle.

And I'm out before the "YiHFF" comments come flooding in. /2gil

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They are kind of minimal with the changes here, but following the trend of ARR, it's silly to suggest they would be too radically different, especially if they're going to wear all the same armor and use all the same weapons as the other races.

But new race/genders means new animations, and that's always fun.

They're exactly what I would have expected to fit the rest of the playable races. Anything too "beast" like would have been a beast tribe. I'm +1 for they look great and think they fit right in.

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Originally Posted by Naelle

Gria! Gria! Gria!

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I was hoping they would be more Gria like. I guess they are kinda like them...

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Originally Posted by Haibel

I was hoping they would be more Gria like. I guess they are kinda like them...

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I am sure they had Gria in mind when creating, but because Geardesign there were too many items to change, so they choosen to make it a bit different...
I would bet everything - thats the reason for the semi Gria we have now... just think: what is different to Gria? :)

Edit: You remember where they said they can not change gear because the cutting with long hairs? The argumentation was similar: too many to change, too much items to change...

I don't like the name of the race... It'll be in conflict with my character name >__<

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Originally Posted by Yukiko

I am sure they had Gria in mind when creating, but because Geardesign there were too many items to change, so they choosen to make it a bit different...
I would bet everything - thats the reason for the semi Gria we have now... just think: what is different to Gria? :)

Edit: You remember where they said they can not change gear because the cutting with long hairs? The argumentation was similar: too many to change, too much items to change...

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Yeah, the only things different with Gria is that they have wings, and they don't have the scaley skin-feature.

My overall opinion: Not too bad.

The horns and tail look good. Would have preferred full body scales to the "scale patches" shown, but they might be okay if we have some control over where the patches are placed. Dislike the huge height difference between male and female; sure, people like the "one head taller" rule, but this goes well beyond that.

I'm hoping that the females aren't all "I'm an adventurer, teehee!" like the Midlander Hyur, but I'm okay with them not being muscular and tough like Roegadyn or Highlander Hyur. It'll be hard to judge before we have a chance to see their full range of motions and emotes.

Definitely tempted to change. I love my Roe, but I was always disappointed that SE kept the same races between FFXI and FFXIV (taking a "Galka female" was the closest I could get to trying out a "new race"). I also think dragon/human hybrids are awesome. We'll see; maybe if I like what I come up with in the character creator, I'll actually use that freebie Fantasia I got so long ago...