Zero: Trans or Lesbian, or Both?

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Originally Posted by Bonoki

The only genuine tiring thing is that you can't accept its head canon.

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No. It is basic media literacy. It is not my fault you're incapable of understanding basic subtext. Especially basic subtext in a game where Sappho, the person that is the literal reason the word "lesbian" means "women attracted to women" in English, canonically exists.

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Originally Posted by Davixxa

No. It is basic media literacy. It is not my fault you're incapable of understanding basic subtext. Especially basic subtext in a game where Sappho, the person that is the literal reason the word "lesbian" means "women attracted to women" in English, canonically exists.

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You're getting way to overly defensive over a head canon. You should probably chill from the forums since you are starting to become passive aggressive about it.

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Originally Posted by Bonoki

You're getting way to overly defensive over a head canon. You should probably chill from the forums since you are starting to become passive aggressive about it.

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No passive aggressiveness here. I'm just being plain and stating the obvious to anyone with a high school education. I see you're on Balmung. Do American schools not teach basic intertextuality and symbolism and literature analysis?

Because genuinely, the answer is screaming you right in the face, and you're choosing to put a blind eye to it.

If it is "just a headcanon", then please answer the following:


* Why is the Crystal in the Empty rainbow-coloured rather than blue with a white tint on the bottom like every other Aetheryte crystal on the First?

* Why did they recreate the Squall and Rinoa cutscene down to the individual head movements in combination with camera angles, not to mention transitions? Down to the way Gaia and Squall falters? Down to the angle that Squall/Gaia sees Rinoa/Ryne?

Again, Final Fantasy 8 is a love story. This cutscene, in the original has a romantic overtone. They chose to recreate this in extreme detail. That is not an accident. And to pretend that this also doesn't make the FFXIV version have a romantic overtone is to spit in the face of not only Final Fantasy as a series, but all story writers and artists in general.

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Originally Posted by Davixxa

No. It is basic media literacy. It is not my fault you're incapable of understanding basic subtext. Especially basic subtext in a game where Sappho, the person that is the literal reason the word "lesbian" means "women attracted to women" in English, canonically exists.

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You admitted yourself that it isn't confirmed. . . So yes, it is your head canon.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

You admitted yourself that it isn't confirmed. . . So yes, it is your head canon.

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It's literally only not confirmed in the sense that Ryne and Gaia haven't appeared on screen in a fourth wall breaking moment and say "Hi! We're gay now!" to the screen. Because that would be insulting to the reader's intelligence. That much is plainly obvious to anyone that pays at least a little attention.

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Originally Posted by Davixxa

No passive aggressiveness here. I'm just being plain and stating the obvious to anyone with a high school education. I see you're on Balmung. Do American schools not teach basic intertextuality and symbolism and literature analysis?

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You are being literally passive aggressive here in this exact sentence, yet want to insult my "intelligence level" while failing to realize how hypocritical you are being? lol
This is way past debate now. You're just simply being rude and a jerk at this point because others don't agree with you.

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Originally Posted by Bonoki

You are being literally passive aggressive here in this exact sentence, yet want to insult my "intelligence level" while failing to realize how hypocritical you are being? lol
This is way past debate now. You're just simply being rude and a jerk at this point because others don't agree with you.

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No. I'm asking a honest, serious question here. Because that is genuinely the only way I could fathom someone not seeing what is plainly obvious to anyone that are actually taught those skills.

Still waiting for the answers to my other questions, by the way. Because these need a different explanation, if they're not examples of symbolism and intertextuality.

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Originally Posted by Davixxa

It's literally only not confirmed in the sense that Ryne and Gaia haven't appeared on screen in a fourth wall breaking moment and say "Hi! We're gay now!" to the screen. Because that would be insulting to the reader's intelligence. That much is plainly obvious to anyone that pays at least a little attention.

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Or, this is two girls who literally never had friends. This is both of their first friendship. Why wouldn't they want to hold hand and do all these things we did as kids with our friends?

FFXIV pays homage to other games. Not always in an exact copy.

But aside from all that. If something isn't confirmed and you claim something that wasn't said, yeah mate, it's head canon. No matter how many things imply it.

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Originally Posted by Davixxa

No. I'm asking a honest, serious question here. Because that is genuinely the only way I could fathom someone not seeing what is plainly obvious to anyone that are actually taught those skills.

Still waiting for the answers to my other questions, by the way. Because these need a different explanation, if they're not examples of symbolism and intertextuality.

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After the way you been behaving and talking down to me because I don't agree with you, I ain't going to bother answering your questions because I don't care enough about this topic to begin with. You been unnecessarily rude over a headcanon.

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Originally Posted by Davixxa

No passive aggressiveness here. I'm just being plain and stating the obvious to anyone with a high school education. I see you're on Balmung. Do American schools not teach basic intertextuality and symbolism and literature analysis?

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How does Balmung = American? You do realize that Canada is apart of NA as well right? Guess all EU Balmung players are automatically American now.