When are we supposed to stop fighting?

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Yep. It's reaching the point where I kind of wish the mods would throw out 72 hour bans to the people who keep starting this. Because it's getting INCREDIBLY annoying now, and it seems to be the same people doing it.

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Thankfully last I checked, there's nothing in the terms of service regarding blasphemy towards fictional self proclaimed deities nor is anyone obligated to even like Venat or approve of her actions.

Given that Venat is directly and indirectly responsible for most of the genocide and suffering present in the setting, it's inevitable that she is going to be brought up across a number of threads relating to such story beats. Actions have consequences, after all.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Yep. It's reaching the point where I kind of wish the mods would throw out 72 hour bans to the people who keep starting this. Because it's getting INCREDIBLY annoying now, and it seems to be the same people doing it.

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Ya know if Hydaelyn stans would stop getting all up in their feelings every time we say both sides were wrong maybe people wouldn't keep starting it. -shrug-

When will the Venat haters realize that the sundering is akin to a creation mythos that explains man's fall from grace? Those exist in several mythologies.

Given that nobody is obligated to like or dislike any given character, I don't think there's much benefit in using terms such as 'haters' to describe subjective personal tastes and opinions.

To some, Venat is a hero. To others, she is little more than a lowly subversive worm who betrayed her own people by inflicting genocide upon innocent men, women and children.

Both viewpoints are equally valid. So, too, is the indifference yet others feel towards the character.

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Originally Posted by HemlockEvergreen

When will the Venat haters realize that the sundering is akin to a creation mythos that explains man's fall from grace? Those exist in several mythologies.

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Big difference: In the Christian creation myth mankind brought it on themselves. The Ancients did nothing wrong but react in a realistic manner to trauma. And Hell, IMHO, Eve wanting to eat the apple wasn't worthy of she and Adam getting thrown out of paradise, so there is that. -shrug-

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

To be fair it didn’t happen when there were people going around all the threads in shb calling emet bad and ascian supporters genocide enthusiasts. Don’t see why it’d apply here.It's not like it isnt entirely irrelevant here though. She was the one preaching about suffering and fighting etc.Seems like people are fine when it devolves into praising Venat or what have you but the moment someone makes a post questioning her THEN its a problem.

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Oh wow where are these Venat did nothing wrong threads? I must’ve missed them.

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

Big difference: In the Christian creation myth mankind brought it on themselves. The Ancients did nothing wrong but react in a realistic manner to trauma. And Hell, IMHO, Eve wanting to eat the apple wasn't worthy of she and Adam getting thrown out of paradise, so there is that. -shrug-

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Something can be a realistic reaction to trauma and be wrong.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Given that Venat is directly and indirectly responsible for most of the genocide and suffering present in the setting,

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Have you considered that people simply disagree with this reading of the text on both a factual and thematic level? That it has nothing to do with being offended on behalf of a fictional character or being a 'stan'.

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Originally Posted by EaraGrace

Oh wow where are these Venat did nothing wrong threads? I must’ve missed them.



Something can be a realistic reaction to trauma and be wrong.

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I was mainly talking about post wise. Be a bit more active on the forums and i’m sure you’d see what i’m talking about. Doesn’t disprove any of what i said either way though :)

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Originally Posted by EaraGrace

Oh wow where are these Venat did nothing wrong threads? I must’ve missed them.



Something can be a realistic reaction to trauma and be wrong.

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Saying reacting realistically to trauma is wrong [newsflash, it *ain't*] is like blaming a woman for her own assault. Pretty damn tacky.

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

Saying reacting realistically to trauma is wrong [newsflash, it *ain't*] is like blaming a woman for her own assault. Pretty damn tacky.

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The only thing tacky here is using that comparison in a thread about a video game story, sheesh.