Sundering and specific character questions. [Spoilers]

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

We never see any Ascians present themselves as anything but Hyur, do we? So the Ancients may in fact just have looked human (except large)...

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While not entirely distinct from Hyurs, and even said to be cousins, Garleans are not Hyurs. Emet-selch presented himself as a Garlean.

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

While not entirely distinct from Hyurs, and even said to be cousins, Garleans are not Hyurs. Emet-selch presented himself as a Garlean.

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... I guess they're different enough in stature/proportions (except when they're not, for whatever reason) and the third eye. But you know what I meant, we never see a Miqo'te or Au Ra or whatever Ascian

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

That makes me wonder if the individual presumed to be Venat is using her original appearance, because outwardly she just looks to be a Hyur of fairly normal stature.

Though she did mention she'd always be present in one form or another, which suggests she's been somehow changing over the millenia.

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It may be a form that is easily understood to be a person by us. It's possible that they looked all so completely different from one another that the robes were used to "homogenize" their looks via glamour so they would focus only on personality and a person's character, not their looks.

Don't forget about the masks and such!

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

... I guess they're different enough in stature/proportions (except when they're not, for whatever reason) and the third eye. But you know what I meant, we never see a Miqo'te or Au Ra or whatever Ascian

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I have to keep reminding myself that it's most probably due to game dev limitations rather than anything lore-relevant. (Other than Garleans, the closest we had to non-Hyur Ascians was Travanchet.) But yeah, I'd be immensely interested in seeing, say, a Moogle Ascian.

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Originally Posted by YianKutku

I have to keep reminding myself that it's most probably due to game dev limitations rather than anything lore-relevant. (Other than Garleans, the closest we had to non-Hyur Ascians was Travanchet.) But yeah, I'd be immensely interested in seeing, say, a Moogle Ascian.

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Since it's just their physical host, I do wonder if there's a limitation to it.

Like, I wonder if an Ascian has ever inhabited a dragon?

http://cdn.discordapp.com/attachment...52/unknown.png

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

Since it's just their physical host, I do wonder if there's a limitation to it.

Like, I wonder if an Ascian has ever inhabited a dragon?

http://cdn.discordapp.com/attachment...52/unknown.png

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The speedo kills it lol

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

Since it's just their physical host, I do wonder if there's a limitation to it.

Like, I wonder if an Ascian has ever inhabited a dragon?

http://cdn.discordapp.com/attachment...52/unknown.png

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Their ability to inhabit bodies may be limited to races that were present before and during the sundering as those are all fragmented souls. Dragons, being alien to our star and a complete soul may be simply immune to ascians taking control of them.

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Originally Posted by Nothv13

Their ability to inhabit bodies may be limited to races that were present before and during the sundering as those are all fragmented souls. Dragons, being alien to our star and a complete soul may be simply immune to ascians taking control of them.

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Unfortunately, I don't think dragons would be immune to Ascian control, assuming they were compatible for Ascian habitation.

Ancient Allag, created by the Ascians, was able to create Neurolinks to control Meracydian Dragons in order to have them perpetuate Bahamut. If they could control dragons with machines, then why not with their souls?

Bear in mind that Lahabrea was shown with a flick of the wrist to be able to rouse Isgebind in the Stone Vigil, and impel it to attack after imbuing it with his dark powers.

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

Unfortunately, I don't think dragons would be immune to Ascian control, assuming they were compatible for Ascian habitation.

Ancient Allag, created by the Ascians, was able to create Neurolinks to control Meracydian Dragons in order to have them perpetuate Bahamut. If they could control dragons with machines, then why not with their souls?

Bear in mind that Lahabrea was shown with a flick of the wrist to be able to rouse Isgebind in the Stone Vigil, and impel it to attack after imbuing it with his dark powers.

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I think there is a difference between externally exerting control over a species and actually inhabiting their body.