When will we get the PVP system for PVE ?

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Non of these sentences are true since it wouldn't remove any option. Now, if your concern is "I could still do the same but differently, therefore I don't like this" I'd say it's kind of a nitpick, since you could still do everything you can. And, let's dream a little, it would even allow for a 4th WS option on each form without requiring 3 additionnal slots...

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I think what Miste is saying, is that because of the different timers for things like Dragon Kick, Twin Snakes, and Demolish, MNK doesn’t always use a set 1-2-3, 4-5-6. Consolidating combos, unless they adjusted all the timers to accommodate that, would make MNK play really convoluted. You would constantly be clipping Demolish early, or reapplying Twin Snakes or Dragon Kick when you don’t have to rather than using True Strike or Bootshine. Plus, when you’re with another MNK, only one of you needs to be applying Dragon Kick; the other can Bootshine every time they’re in Opo-opo instead. Unless that etiquette has changed...or something. I’m tired.

I’m not an expert MNK, but that’s what I think she’s saying.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

HW altered how MNK played, SB altered how MNK played, the next expansion will alter how MNK play...You can't really fight that.

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Reading everything I post would help you. You'll find I already stated my opinion on that.

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Originally Posted by Miste

If they want to change how MNK plays in the future then we'll see, but what I am getting at is I don't want them to change MNK SOLELY for this system to work.

If they want to change MNK because they think it needs to be changed and because they want to improve it, great, but don't change it solely to add a in my opinion bad system like this.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

I’m not an expert MNK, but that’s what I think she’s saying.

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Thank you Hyomin ^^

That was a good explanation of part of the problem.

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Originally Posted by Miste

I also said:



Your solution does change how MNK plays compared to the current MNK.



^ explains how your solution alters how MNK plays.




So unnecessary.

If you are going to resort to personal attacks instead of discussing the topic then I'm done with you.

I mean I could use a lot of negative labels about your opinions, but hey I have class so I won't go there.

Have a nice day.

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It's not a personal attack o.O No need to get all bent out of shape over a discussion. Have a nice day to you too.

I'd be ok with this as long as:

1. Make it optional.

2. Let us change combo-ender mid combo.

I'm also not really sure how this would affect monk, but that's where the optional part comes in.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

I think what Miste is saying, is that because of the different timers for things like Dragon Kick, Twin Snakes, and Demolish, MNK doesn’t always use a set 1-2-3, 4-5-6.

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No, but MNK always uses Opo-Opo -> Raptor -> Coeurl, except during Perfect Balance. That's your "combo".
But, contrary to every other job than has only one option at each step, MNK would have three.

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Originally Posted by Miste

Reading everything I post would help you. You'll find I already stated my opinion on that.

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Wow, you really sniped that post during my edit :p

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

HW altered how MNK played, SB altered how MNK played, the next expansion will alter how MNK play...If they ever implement a system like that, you can be sure it will be tied to a level cap increase, and thus other changes.

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Originally Posted by Miste

That was a good explanation of part of the problem.

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Except this part of the problem doesn't exist.

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Originally Posted by Hruodig

I'd be ok with this as long as:

1. Make it optional.

2. Let us change combo-ender mid combo.

I'm also not really sure how this would affect monk, but that's where the optional part comes in.

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Ofc it would be optional, customize and personalize is key.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

It's not a personal attack o.O No need to get all bent out of shape over a discussion but since I can see the hostility in your posts now, yeah I agree it's time to drop the topic. Have a nice day to you too.

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I'm not bent out of shape so please stop your assumptions. I just refuse to bother with people who will call someone's opinion petty for no reason. It adds nothing to the conversation since why I am unsubbing shouldn't personally matter to you.

I simply stated I would unsub because the game would no longer be fun for me with that system and that was how I felt. Calling how I feel "petty" was unnecessary. It served no purpose except to be rude. You're free to have whatever opinion you want about me, but it doesn't mean I will sit back and be quiet about it.

I was not being hostile at all until that. You lost my respect by doing that so that's that.

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Originally Posted by Miste

I'm not bent out of shape so please stop your assumptions. I just refuse to bother with people who will call someone's opinion petty for no reason. It adds nothing to the conversation since why I am unsubbing shouldn't personally matter to you.

I simply stated I would unsub because the game would no longer be for for me with that system and that was how I felt. Calling how I feel "petty" was unnecessary. It served no purpose except to be rude. You're free to have whatever opinion you want about me, but it doesn't mean I will sit back and be quiet about it.

I was not being hostile at all until that. You lost my respect by doing that so that's that.

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I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you.

I don't want it, but i see it being introduced in some manner in the future. Button bloat is an issue but PvP cuts many abilities from a job. I would really hate for my Dark Knight to lose more skills.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

HW altered how MNK played, SB altered how MNK played, the next expansion will alter how MNK play...If they ever implement a system like that, you can be sure it will be tied to a level cap increase, and thus other changes.

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The thread wants just auto buttons and says its not going to alter much. Many people saying its just the buttons "not the skills". Just the buttons right? Except it doesn't fit for Monk for "just the buttons". They would have to rebalance monk to fit into 3 auto buttons. Which is the point, they just want the buttons, but here we are changing things just so we can fit things into the buttons. You probably can't even do the current MNK opener with your changes.