REQUEST: Please change PVP duty incentive

The grand company argument hasn't really meant anything since they added freelancer, though. The people who lose over and over will blame all kinds of things - and for sure, building a partial premade might help - but one of the things I never see in complaints about win rates is an analysis of why an individual might be part of the problem themselves instead of an elite PVPer perpetually hamstrung by a failing grand company (most of which will be made up of freelancers anyway).

Personally, I'm ok with them keeping exp as-is so long as they add some kind of incentive for winning beyond 'slightly faster gil from desynthesis', which is about as unexciting as it comes, and the mounts/gear everyone already earned months/years ago at this point.

I would not lower the XP gains at all since that would make people stop PVPing. I could see them adding maybe a 10% bonus or something small on top of existing rates for the winning team.

I think we also need a few changes to allow the community to clean up the AFKers:
1) Remove the kick timer. Only being able to kick one person every 4 hours prevents us from getting rid of AFKers since they are there every match.
2) Drop the timer to initiate a kick down to 2 or 3 minutes so we can get rid of them faster.
3) Add a 10 minute timer where they can't use DF after being kicked.

Please do not touch PVP right now specially Frontline. The XP given is godlike

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Originally Posted by Katryn

If people are afking in pvp, we need a way to report and remove them--swiftly and efficiently.

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Sadly reporting people for AFKing in pvp does not work. I take this from experience and many many people from the pvp community can probably agree.
People get quickly banned for harassment however people that throw games or AFK in games do not get banned.

In Season 3 and Season 4 of the feast there were players reported by almost everyone in the most commonly used pvp Discord in Primal for throwing games and AFKing in games but nothing was done ever.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rget-to-report...

The best you can do is identify people that are not contributing and Vote Kick them when you see them.

So I got to talking with my friend about PvP, who has a background in WoW, and here is basically the ideas we came up with:

Set a Bronze/Silver/Gold limit per tracked stat in the duty. Each medal grants a bonus xp multiplier based on its tier. EX: Someone did 50k damage to players, 50k to Ice, got 10 assists, etc and even though their team was in third place with them doing as much as they did they got a +25% bonus to the end of match XP because of all the gold personal medals they got for trying so hard.

The idea being to encourage individual players for trying as hard as they could despite the conditions they are finding themselves in and rewarding them for that. Without it being a limited pool out of the 72 players that can get that gold, or silver, or bronze rating. All personal that only you can see for hitting goal points.

In 3 PVP matches yesterday I noticed two players, one each on a map, just running in circles at the top of the map off in the distance doing nothing to contribute and just trying to get xp/verity. Upon calling those players out and then voting dismiss after 5 minutes has gone by, my other party members would not kick the abusing player out.

Folks, as long as you let people get away with this, it will not change unless SE does something to change it. Scaling rewards based on winning/losing or participation, etc. could be the way to go in preventing this type of behavior in matches.

P.S. I love the changes they made to PVP and I actually feel like I score a lot more kills in the new system... not that I was bad at it the old way but everything just works better for me in for 4.0. I have yet to go into The Feast but I feel like I might be good enough to go in there now and possibly do really well.

I don't want to provoke anybody, but I think that the best solution would be for Squ Enix to acknowledge that the majority of the people playing this game doesn't like PVP and to stop pushing it in any single way (like Garo, EXP, better glamours etc). At this point, I'm not even sure that the data they have are relevant as it isn't about how many people play PVP but how. PVP could receive small regular updates (like ..every even patch? ) so that pvp players have what they like most without forcing half of the server in it. Anyway, these were just my 2 cents..

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Originally Posted by Mikhaill

Aether's Twin Adder almost always loses. This will force people to move to the other two and game will also become imbalanced. some people do try though. more than not...yet we still lose a lot lol.

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Just the last time I pvped they won like half the matches that day.

Would love them to nerf PvP xp given a small amount and move that more to FATEs to liven up the overworld a bit more with its FATEs.

In HW pvp ques where 30+ mins lol do you really want it to go back to that hot mess...also I've barely seen the AFK'ers anymore since they can't just sit still because of the lock out

I normally see everyone trying to get experience and win matches so this is a double edged sword, one side you can get rid of the ppl not there for pvp but on the other half it's going to start taking a long time to que for pvp again because no one would simply do it like it was in HW before the feast became a big deal with the garo stuff