Scholars what are your thoughts?

Actually what I hate too is that they tried to homogenize all healer.
But scholar doesn't work like a whm and astrologian.


So our potencies got cut by half (fey illymination, aetherflow), because cross role abilities.
It has no sense. Scholar was fine with its initial toolkit...

Having lucid dream with aetherflow because aetherflow alone isn't enough anymore.
No need for largess however, but fey illumination is now at 10%.

And then of course, rip dots and aoe...
Adloquium at a higher cost, i don't understand why they made this choice? That was free to add more mp.

The new skills are great. Really.
But what I don't like is the removal and the change of all these little skills that made scholar so fun, awesome to play and unique.

I don't get it...

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

Actually what I hate too is that they tried to homogenize all healer.
But scholar doesn't work like a whm and astrologian.

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This. It feels like they took our active class and told us to sit in a corner. "Be more like your siblings, scholar! Stop being unique!"

So...how's summoner this patch? >_>

I just love that so many people feel the same way I do. And with my deepest sincerity, I'd like to apologize to all those who made SMN threads in this same regard. We just want the Job we've grown to love back.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

So...how's summoner this patch? >_>

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Awfully boring as well.

But hey, you get to summon Bahamut!!!!!11!1!1!

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Originally Posted by Eloah

I just love that so many people feel the same way I do. And with my deepest sincerity, I'd like to apologize to all those who made SMN threads in this same regard. We just want the Job we've grown to love back.

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Frankly, I'd be surprised if anyone genuinely liked the changes they made to Scholar at all

i cant believe it today was first time have gotten to play since early access started and i am really upset . i have been playing an sch since i was able to get it and now i cant even heal through a moderate boss fight . had been doing great in the past.

Scholar was a technical class. With the dumbing down of the class, can we still call it scholar?

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

So...how's summoner this patch? >_>

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Originally Posted by Fernosaur

Awfully boring as well.
But hey, you get to summon Bahamut!!!!!11!1!1!

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Already played one on lvl 70 yet? : o

But well seems to be halfcutted opinions over there most player are sad bout loosing Dot management and aoe dmg some on the other hand said the flow with trance is more fluent and more frequent cause of shorter aetherskill cds - both sides agree it's more or less bout (ruin-)burst dmg loosing the priority system as well... no reports bout the utility side yet, but well it's just day 2 let's see bout that later...

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Originally Posted by Neela

Already played one on lvl 70 yet? : o

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No, but I played it in lvl 60. Believe me, the class doesn't change much if at all from 60 to 70. The mini burst from summoning Bahamut at lvl 70 does very little to change the class because you don't really do much else than pressing the same buttons you would be pressing anyways with an added Enkindle Bahamut twice.

Actually, the more SMN's level increases, the more boring it becomes, since you have to refresh Miasma III and Bio III even less due to their increased length, and with having the same duration, you'll always refresh them both at the same time. You're going to find yourself pressing the Ruin button over and over, sometimes pressing Ruin III, and you'll pretty much be able to set and forget the DoTs with Tri-D.

Even with the addition of Ruin IV, there's no proc we need to be mindful of because it automatically replaces Ruin and Ruin III. SMN's DPS rotation was as stripped of depth as SCH's in terms of GCD usage. Sure, there's more oGCDs to press, but even then, the CD reduction on Fester and Painflare, coupled with DWT resetting Tri-D's cooldown, made it so there's even less decision making behind playing the job. IMO, SMN is arguably the easiest DPS to play now. They just added the visual flare of Bahamut becoming manifest, which is cool, but... eh.

The change to Contagion is interesting, and in pure paper more beneficial than what it was before, specially because extending Miasma III and Bio III by 50% would be lol. But with how unresponsive Garuda is, it's more of an annoyance than a boost. You have to make her time it before you use Tri-D within DWT, but you only have one GCD to use Tri-D because you'll be busy spamming Ruin III after. So if Garuda takes her time (as she usually does), you'll end up with unbuffed DoTs. If you decide to do it early, you'll end up with an unbuffed Deathflare. Contagion should have a duration of 20s to offset the lack of AI responsiveness, but this is more a QoL issue than anything else.



TL;DR: yes, SMN's DPS is also as boring and superficial as SCH is, but without the added responsibility of healing.