All I got to say is that you guys don't get what you want all the time stop just stop, because you will cause a ripple then people are gonna think well its kinda unfair that they got musketeer and we didn't get ninja or samurai or dark knight and maybe they need another job that goes with musketeer for the secondary abilities.
You can wait like everyone else, personally I feel you are pushing the dev team for your own personal wants and needs when their hands are full but you want them to drop what they are doing to put a job that could not have any skills made or animation made and he could of said stuff meaning for the future but you took it the wrong way, I feel like you are pushing him and hes busy trying to give content I say wait till expansion stop pushing him its not your game.
So completely ignoring musketeer questions to the producer?
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03-22-2014, 11:00 PMHeroSamson
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03-22-2014, 11:04 PMLlenCoramHe never said that it would be its job. Read his post again. He's very clearly saying that each JOB has its counterpart. Paladin and Warrior, Blackmage and Summoner. By that logic, Bard should have whatever Musketeer's job will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlemagne
The problem is Yoshi has said he wants two jobs per class now, so it would unbalance again. -
03-22-2014, 11:38 PMRustyhagunPoint is though, 1 by 1 classes/jobs have to come out. If some people get upset, who cares. Just means, getting a classes/jobs out into the game finally checks "that job" off the list, and the next class/job would be next. Releasing class/job every expansion is not very productive. as that's a 1.5 year wait give or take.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeroSamson
If it takes time then yes let it take time. As it should fit the lore/npc's of the game.
Yoshi&team are silly, if they miss this opportunity to release Musketeer, as the whole patch is centered around Limsa. The more I think about it, the more I think we might get a new class this patch.
...side note... Other classes/jobs that I see being hinted at, from this 2.2 update video Samurai( with Gilgamesh) and Thief/Ninja(new race npc) ... *my obsessed opinion/theory, lol* -
03-23-2014, 12:00 AMParodine
They probably don't wanna talk about it because then the follow-up question/expectation is when, which they probably don't wanna touch for most things. I don't even know if Personal Housing is a for-sure thing yet for 2.3 =/ 'We want to monitor servers.' Yeah, ok.
Regardless, I'd be pretty disappointed if they didn't get Musketeer out by the end of summer. -
03-23-2014, 12:11 AMZReport
It's always amazing to me how you guys can be so shortsighted sometimes when it comes to game development. Just because he's not answering questions, doesn't mean he does not care about the job or your concerns on the addition of new jobs. It may very well mean he simply can't talk about certain things until the timing is right. Even he as the producer has to answer to someone else and can't be 100% transparent on development.
Yoshi-P is't at any liberty to tell us about any potential new jobs, whatever they might be. Learn to have some patience. -
03-23-2014, 12:12 AMcottiWhoa, whoa, whoa, careful with that edge, kid! Might cut yourself!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustyhagun
Don't contradict yourself, please.Quote:
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So, it should "fit the lore", but the demand is always for "the next hotfix" for those who keep whining about MSK. As if by magic, they'll create all skills, balance the job, make their weapons, etc.
So, it sounds like in your vision they should delay 2.2 just to add the damn MSK. It's hard for the MSK-enforcers to understand this, but it's NOT IMPLEMENTED YET. It will need time to code, design, test and audit the code. But no, needs to be like magic. Make devs work 24/7, right? Who cares, eh? -
03-23-2014, 12:37 AMNheirTo be fair.. The game did get shut down and had a re-launch. 4 years is kinda exaggerating.Quote:
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03-23-2014, 12:38 AMTupsiThe same good it did us when they gave us teasers for Blue Mage, Dancer, Corsair and Scholar in FFXI long before we got to play it - It got us hyped as hell to want to buy the expansions/wait for the update.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheer
Then again, that was to an actual FF MMORPG, nowadays I can understand it doing nothing since this battle system...would really take some working to get the unique kind of jobs even a 2001 PS2 MMORPG managed, since despite when they came out, the game's systems haven't had major revisions since 2002 to "allow" new jobs in any way.
Yet they still released a class promised shortly after 1.0's release (Arcanist) all the while redoing it into a pet class with two jobs. So no it's not exaggerating as you're still utilizing content that launched with 1.0 and added with 1.22 (Job system for example with the same jobs only a different battle system.) So we're still playing FFXIV that launched in 2010 on a significantly improved system..heck we still have quite a few dungeons that came out over XIV 1.x's life span that was redone...so it's hard to use the 'it shut down' situation when we got 1/2 classes in production during 1.0 for an update in the relaunch.Quote:
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03-23-2014, 12:43 AMRustyhagunMy "vision"... MSK is already in 2.2, testing has been done, and it is a surprise for all of us come next week. So no contradiction, as that statement was for future classes/jobs. MSK being the exception as it is already in 2.2.Quote:
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03-23-2014, 12:53 AMNheirPoint taken. just saying to cut 'em some slack what with reworking the game and all. And correct me if I'm wrong but I think more people wanted a Summoner type class/job more than anything else. (Summons/Eidolons/Espers/Aeons/Avatars/Guardian Forces are essential to a FF game.) Then again.. how long did 1.0 players wait for any new class any at all since launch? Prior to shut down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tupsi