#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

Interesting comparison considering that healers in WoW are 100x better then here.

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Seems they suffered a similar issue, but the devs are nerfing tank sustain over there

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With the introduction of the Dragonflight talents system and season-over-season changes, tanks in World of Warcraft have become extremely durable relative to non-tank characters. Their active defenses can mitigate high percentages of incoming damage and they have strong self-healing. Today, in the hardest content in the game, many tanks can sustain themselves without much assistance from healers. In some cases, we’ve seen it become optimal to do group content without a healer at all.

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But they are fixing it by reducing tank sustain, imagine that.

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To address the above, we’re making reductions to tank durability and self-healing. This will allow us to smooth out the damage tanks and parties take while retaining the challenge of keeping them alive over time. We’ll take those changes into account in encounter tuning as well.

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Originally Posted by HealerGuy

The devs listening to threads like this are what ruined WoW.

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but WoW is still the most popular MMO on the market. It's more successful than FFXIV

Even Diablo IV has higher active player count than FFXIV.

Both Ex trials cleared with no healer your strike didn't work. #RemoveHealerRole lets see some interesting solo style class design everyone heal themselves and get to blasting

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Originally Posted by Grann-Goro

Yup.

That's why a lot of things are boring - in gaming and beyond - : "always hide the differences between people (especially differences in capability), or one way or another you will create problems."

After years of teaching, I've lost faith to think otherwise...

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My sister was a teacher. The stories she'd tell me about how much her class suffered in having to cater to the absolute worst students, that wouldn't try, and didn't care, were appalling. The amount of times she'd get screamed at by entitled parents, furious because their precious angel got the grades they deserved were too damned high, and her administration wouldn't do anything to stop it. Meanwhile, the truly gifted students were ignored, because you can't have someone excel TOO much. Not when Derps Mclazy won't bother to pay attention for even a single day in his life.

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Originally Posted by Lann_Gallowfield

Both Ex trials cleared with no healer your strike didn't work. #RemoveHealerRole lets see some interesting solo style class design everyone heal themselves and get to blasting

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Funny that you mentioned those no-healer trials when that was what some of the striker had been striving to do/hoping to see because the more it happens, the better.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

Funny that you mentioned those no-healer trials when that was what some of the striker had been striving to do/hoping to see because the more it happens, the better.

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Exactly! Clear more things without healers. Do Savage next. Do another Ultimate. After all, Yoshi P said that's where we'll find our engaging content as a healer. Surely that means that a healer is actually required for the hardest content in the game, right? RIGHT?!

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Originally Posted by Lann_Gallowfield

Both Ex trials cleared with no healer your strike didn't work. #RemoveHealerRole lets see some interesting solo style class design everyone heal themselves and get to blasting

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>Healerstrike aims to prove healer role is so badly designed into the enforced trinity system that you can actually remove healers in the hardest, current content in the game and still manage to complete it, sometimes even optimally.
>"Both Ex trials cleared with no healer your strike didn't work."

I'd say based on what you wrote that it worked exceedingly well.

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Originally Posted by GrimGale

>Healerstrike aims to prove healer role is so badly designed into the enforced trinity system that you can actually remove healers in the hardest, current content in the game and still manage to complete it, sometimes even optimally.
>"Both Ex trials cleared with no healer your strike didn't work."

I'd say based on what you wrote that it worked exceedingly well.

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There needs to be a point where the devs just tell people to Get Good. They want content to be completed even if you have a party member dragging it down to avoid negativity, but like... this ain't it. We've got an entire role that's borderline not relevant for current endgame content because... reasons.

I'm all for being able to work your way through low-level dungeons without a healer, or a bad one. But after a certain point, it's not unreasonable to expect someone to have a decent amount of confidence and competence in their chosen role, enough that the minimal skill level is something above casting Medica II and fishing for Freecure.

I play with someone as tank who, thankfully, is more than happy to just stop mitigating and make me work to keep them up. It's all in good fun, we're friends, but they shouldn't have to do that.

At this point, I would be fine if they removed healing as a role.

It's obvious they can do it and make classes self sustainable.

They should let me gather and craft while I'm healing dungeons in ARR at this point

Let me grab a resource node while my DPSes babysit the Tank