The arrogance of some people

The more i read these posts the further i love this thread title, because it's showing in full.

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom

I have no idea where this conception that healers never did dps before final coil came from...

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Me either?

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Originally Posted by ScarletDawn

Doesn't matter we never had this mentality until after final coil, then everyone has this mentality or well most of the hardcore no life do as i say because ive done higher content then you type of people...

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I have been DPSing on my healer since I got cleric stance (level 6 skill). I have 101 days or 2424 hours of playtime, and CNJ was my first class. I made that well before FCoB came out.

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those who think their special, i have learnt people dont like they are doing their job wrong, instead of saying to the healers "DO DPS U SUCK AT HEALER IF YOU DONT", they could ask "Healer could you please help dps" if you ask nicely then healers will dps.

Healing and dps is not about skill but about confidence, people only do what they feel comfortable.

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It's possible. I have a hard enough time getting people to say "Hello" never-mind respond to criticism and/or requests. On the rare occasion the melee will listen to me when I say "LB", but that's like 10% chance.

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Originally Posted by Remus

Funny because i just done a dungeon and we wiped because healer too busy trying to DPS https://vsmallfires.files.wordpress....3/05/kappa.png

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So you had a healer who pushed it too far. Or was bad. At least he tried to do more than the bare minimum. There are obvious risks inherant with healers dpsing, by your comment am I to assume that you took one side of this arguement to be saying it is totally risk free?

I have caused wipes learning my limits, but they are few and far between. Sometimes people die, thats what rez is for... are you saying that people shouldn't try because the possiblilty of failure exists?

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

The more i read these posts the further i love this thread title, because it's showing in full.

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Funny because the most arrogant players to me are the ones that will never admit that they can improve, they are perfect already. They have to write walls of text to justify how they play.

But my argument it is not mandatory for a healer to dps, it is OPTIONAL, so they can chose.. so people should not be demanding, by clicking their fingers and yelling at healers, instead they should be asking nicely.

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Originally Posted by Remus

Funny because i just done a dungeon and we wiped because healer too busy trying to DPS https://vsmallfires.files.wordpress....3/05/kappa.png

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I once had a wipe when the healer wasn't DPSing.

Obviously, from this we can conclude that healers not DPSing causes all wipes. Wait, no we can't.

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Originally Posted by ScarletDawn

But my argument it is not mandatory for a healer to dps, it is OPTIONAL, so they can chose.. so people should not be demanding, by clicking their fingers and yelling at healers, instead they should be asking nicely.

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I 100% agree, people should not demand anything. However, I equate it to demanding a tank use cool-downs, a DPS using utility, buffs or the limit break.

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Originally Posted by ScarletDawn

But my argument it is not mandatory for a healer to dps, it is OPTIONAL, so they can chose.. so people should not be demanding, by clicking their fingers and yelling at healers, instead they should be asking nicely.

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I never have seen anyone demanding or kicking healers for not DPSing. This is a fantasy that pure healers created in their heads.

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Originally Posted by Eothas

I never have seen anyone demanding or kicking healers for not DPSing. This is a fantasy that pure healers created in their heads.

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It seems to be very rare, only on certain servers which have a more elitist community.

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Originally Posted by ScarletDawn

But my argument it is not mandatory for a healer to dps, it is OPTIONAL, so they can chose.. so people should not be demanding, by clicking their fingers and yelling at healers, instead they should be asking nicely.

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Has anybody argued that it is optional? There are lots of optional things in this game. Some might say that it is not an option if you run with them, but even then it is still an option, it just has consequences.

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Originally Posted by Eothas

I never have seen anyone demanding or kicking healers for not DPSing. This is a fantasy that pure healers created in their heads.

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I almost did, one time in thousands of runs. It was one of those low level dungeons where a SCHs fairy can literally heal the whole thing. He was running in circles bragging about how he was doing nothing, and I was in a bad mood. And even then it was an "almost" thing that had more to do with the attitude than the action.