White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

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Originally Posted by Nyghtmarerobu

The thing I ask the thread is this...

How long do new people have to wait to get items that are 3, 4 or 5 years old? What if the content that those items comes from doesn't exsist anymore? Do people that own such trophy items actually glamour them a lot or only sometimes or not at all?

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I do not have the earrings, but I have other items that were exclusive to those days, and I am not covetous of those items I did not get nor am I willing to have my own items put on the mogstation (the legacy tattoo which I always wear, the legacy chocobo I ride on occassion). It feels ridiculous that for what the Rising is supposed to represent, there are those that want to turn it into a excercise of player mockery and corporate manipulation.

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Originally Posted by Nyghtmarerobu

The thing I ask the thread is this...

How long do new people have to wait to get items that are 3, 4 or 5 years old? What if the content that those items comes from doesn't exsist anymore? Do people that own such trophy items actually glamour them a lot or only sometimes or not at all?

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"Never" seems fine to me, but it has to be consistent, which FFXIV isn't. White Ravens was an abnormality.
In Path of Exile, there are a lot of "glamour"/housing items available for a limited time, and in particular season-specific rewards, and nobody think about complaining that it can no longer be obtained. Because it works this way.
Adapted to FFXIV, it would be something like : players who won Bahamut/Alexander/Omega raids before their official obsolescence (adding of echo) earn a special reward, like the white raven.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

I do not have the earrings, but I have other items that were exclusive to those days, and I am not covetous of those items I did not get nor am I willing to have my own items put on the mogstation (the legacy tattoo which I always wear, the legacy chocobo I ride on occassion). It feels ridiculous that for what the Rising is supposed to represent, there are those that want to turn it into a excercise of player mockery and corporate manipulation.

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Thing is, though I started after 2.0, I was never covetous of items I didn't get, but nearly all of the exclusive items I did get have ended up on the mogstation since then and I had no control of whether they did or not. All I had was an opinion, and SE obviously didn't share that opinion, sadly.


It's been my suspicion for a while now that 1.x items would eventually follow.

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Originally Posted by Nyghtmarerobu

The thing I ask the thread is this...

How long do new people have to wait to get items that are 3, 4 or 5 years old? What if the content that those items comes from doesn't exsist anymore? Do people that own such trophy items actually glamour them a lot or only sometimes or not at all?

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I was always wearing them in 1.0, then had to wait for glamour in 2.x to be able to wear them on every gear set, DoL, DoH, DoM.
Like many, many, many pointed out, we don't mind them being available to new players, especially if it makes them happy, just it would have been better if they were Replicas.


Here is the final hour of 1.0, with my White Ravens, during the Carteneau Flats battles, right before Bahamut destroy its Dalamud prison:

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.n...9DD3C819DD317/

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Originally Posted by Sakuraluna

Thing is, though I started after 2.0, I was never covetous of items I didn't get, but nearly all of the exclusive items I did get have ended up on the mogstation since then and I had no control of whether they did or not. All I had was an opinion, and SE obviously didn't share that opinion, sadly.


It's been my suspicion for a while now that 1.x items would eventually follow.

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It is not a decision I support, especially after they went on record saying that the items are exclusive to the seventh umbral era event. say what you will about companies not being your friend or the need to get a buck, this is wrong to me as a person that invested in the legacy campaign. Loyalty and effort is being put on sale here, and I find it just as disrespectful as puttung a raid tier item on sale.


And again, this can be easily fixed with a different item, or making this item a replica. don't tell me this was the only thing ps4 limitations(or whatever the current problem is) will allow.

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Originally Posted by Genz

"Never" seems fine to me, but it has to be consistent, which FFXIV isn't. White Ravens was an abnormality.
In Path of Exile, there are a lot of "glamour"/housing items available for a limited time, and in particular season-specific rewards, and nobody think about complaining that it can no longer be obtained. Because it works this way.
Adapted to FFXIV, it would be something like : players who won Bahamut/Alexander/Omega raids before their official obsolescence (adding of echo) earn a special reward, like the white raven.

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RuneScape does the same. Miss the seasonal event? Well tough bananas, it ain't ever coming back. Although I'm partially glad we can get them off the mog station because it means I could get my friend the dote emote, at the same time, it can cause complications. But honestly, in my eyes, even though I never played 1.0, keep 1.0 items exclusive. These are people that supported the game when it was on its knees and almost killed the company. Let them keep their exclusive rewards.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

I do not have the earrings, but I have other items that were exclusive to those days, and I am not covetous of those items I did not get nor am I willing to have my own items put on the mogstation (the legacy tattoo which I always wear, the legacy chocobo I ride on occassion). It feels ridiculous that for what the Rising is supposed to represent, there are those that want to turn it into a excercise of player mockery and corporate manipulation.

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You mean the part where it's celebrating FFXIV's past and future and a bunch of 1.0 players are clutching their pearls and screaming bloody murder over new players obtaining a pair of unremarkable earrings because it has been revealed they're not actually the center of the universe like they had thought?

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Originally Posted by Kallera

And again, this can be easily fixed with a different item, or making this item a replica. don't tell me this was the only thing ps4 limitations(or whatever the current problem is) will allow.

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Which just reveals the petty nature of the grievance.

Get over yourself.

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Originally Posted by Tiraelina

Fun fact from the french thread.

https://i.imgur.com/Ku6EOfS.png

I'm sure someone will try to discredit this because they no idea how many times this has been stated by multiple developers. Players insisting everyone with a negative opinion leave and trying to shut down discussion is doing more damage to games.

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The thing is I can understand that its getting frustrating if you absolutely love the game and just see constant negative posts about it. But some people really need to remember that those that post at least still care enough to post and not just leave silenty. (I mean some would probably be happy about that but thats not healthy for a game either) And for me I just feel like SE did a lot wrong. Thus I complain more. But I am also one that will give them thumps up if they deserve it in my view. But sadly there was not enough from their side to get that from me recently.

Its just a bit funny if it comes from people that have pages over pages of complains in different threads but as soon as its about a topic they like its bad to complain. That is something that annoys me a bit because it comes over as a bit wrong..

In the end I am happy for anyone that are happy with the game and I wont go into a "I love x in FF14, what do you love about it"-thread and post negative thoughts about it because that would just be a bit petty. The same with the other side. I just never understand why people need to post the question of why a thread is still alive instead of just ignoring it. x) I mean those keep the thread alive even longer with each of such a post.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

The thing is I can understand that its getting frustrating if you absolutely love the game and just see constant negative posts about it. But some people really need to remember that those that post at least still care enough to post and not just leave silenty. (I mean some would probably be happy about that but thats not healthy for a game either) And for me I just feel like SE did a lot wrong. Thus I complain more. But I am also one that will give them thumps up if they deserve it in my view. But sadly there was not enough from their side to get that from me recently.

Its just a bit funny if it comes from people that have pages over pages of complains in different threads but as soon as its about a topic they like its bad to complain. That is something that annoys me a bit because it comes over as a bit wrong..

In the end I am happy for anyone that are happy with the game and I wont go into a "I love x in FF14, what do you love about it"-thread and post negative thoughts about it because that would just be a bit petty. The same with the other side. I just never understand why people need to post the question of why a thread is still alive instead of just ignoring it. x) I mean those keep the thread alive even longer with each of such a post.

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Criticism is one thing, but something somewhat unique to MMORPGs that I've noticed is that many people will let the game stop being merely a game they play and let it transform into a lifestyle. The consequence of this is that many of these players will hang around for years after they stopped really having fun, complaining about every little thing, because they can't come to terms with quitting the game and instead keep playing it in some vain hope that it will spontaneously be as fun as they remember it being. I'm not going to accuse any specific person of that here because I don't use these forums enough to really recognize anyone, let alone know their posting history, but there is definitely a point where complaining ceases to be useful and people really should just quit because they are the problem.

The event has been live for a few hours now, and the npc needed to spawn the instance has not spawned from what I have seen. There, it is just as hard to get the earrings now as it was in 1.0 irt getting a party to go in. Now you can also relive waiting for a party to get in to the instance, just with waiting for the npc to spawn. ;)