What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

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Originally Posted by Teraq

Endwalker cured me of my altitis. Only three of my characters finished 6.0, and only my main unlocked 6.2 content at all. I just can't find the motivation in me anymore to go through MSQ again, while it never was a problem before. It even got me to do what I once swore I never would: level everything on my main instead of enjoying the various jobs on different characters. This Amaro is my greatest shame. (But it's really cute and should 100% have been a Shadowbringers MSQ reward.)

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Same here, I had quite a lot of characters and more than are publicly visible if one were to go digging through my forum info but most of them have since been retired. This wasn't the case back in Shb, I enjoyed going through that expansion multiple times but doing EW more than once is too much of an ask for me. It's too much of a reminder of how bad things have gotten, though I sincerely wish it were otherwise.

With the way this arc is going - assuming that 7.0 releases a decent enough story to come back for - I'll probably just boost my main through whatever remains of the 6.4-6.5 patch stories. After 6.3's lackluster spectacle I'm choosing to just watch a playthrough of any future MSQ for the foreseeable future. Pandaemonium remains the sole bastion of storytelling that I don't feel like I was forced out of, and will be the game's final chance to redeem itself in my eyes.

Though who knows. Perhaps the aforementioned spite-driven writers will strongarm Hiroi into shoving Venat in there or somehow turning Athena into the good party because they made Lahabrea too likeable and relatable. Or waste our time in the middle of the raid quests to get cheeseburgers because some people who play this game get so shocked by the events that take place that they need to physically step away from the computer and lie down, or otherwise compensate with these forceful moments of levity. They've admitted as much anyway. It's just insane how anyone even thought to cater to those types let alone let them infiltrate the writing team which at one point might have actually had some kind of prestige to it.

Sadly as with many things, that era is too long gone.

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Originally Posted by Brinne

NGL, aveyond’s active presence is kind of handy as like. An anti-Bat Signal. “Ah yes, there it is. Time to avoid the thread for a while.”

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No No not avoid tread Briny. Guild it recruit to making the post to university latte croud. Rest of guild it making simple post to create more access to the silent majority and Briny targeting chara with the high educated. Guild appreciate the Briny even when not understanding.

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Originally Posted by Teraq

I confess, coming from a decade of WoW, making several characters was my first instinct. Even though I knew you could play all classes on a single character, I just enjoy having separate characters, each with their own classes, aesthetics and personalities. From the moment I picked up the game in 2016 to the last patch of Shadowbringers, all of my alts were up to date or nearly so, each with at least two jobs at level 80, with only a single job being shared by two characters -- SMN/SCH, though one character was much more SMN and the other SCH.

Endwalker cured me of my altitis.

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It good point. We agree with the Tariq.

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Originally Posted by Teraq

…because he said "Likewise"? Is that it? Is this the standards for an echo chamber now?…

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It good point. We agree with the Tariq.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Thing is... I'm sorry but... do you even know why I wrote what I wrote? Did you even read the rest? I think you didn't, and that's why you're writing that. If you had, you'd know that the reason isn't with the content itself, but what Aveyond does directly. With the fact that any time anyone even posts anything he disagrees with, he shoves his entire opinion of it like you didn't matter. A few months ago, it was funny and soft, he wasn't as crude as he is nowadays. But now, it seems that any idea of how the game should be that doesn't follow his one neat little category, he just reacts like the people who gave the idea are stupid. And any attempt to call him out on it or point out that all he does is be a negative nancy is met with "Echo Chamber". When in reality, he himself only prefers to interact with people who cater to his tastes, consequences for his own actions and what he says be damned!

So no. You are wrong. It's not just because he says "Likewise". I'm not so crude as to deny people the chance to agree or disagree with things. It's got nothing to do with it. At least know a bit about the person you're defending before you start pushing others just because they point out he's a hypocrite why don't you?

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This it not true. Is not the Echo Chamber. Is the eChO cHaMbEr like the Tariq altitis explain. It like the Echo Chamber but CAPS key it is broken.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

(Meanwhile, in the realm of reality, hundreds of thousands of players have thoroughly enjoyed EW, in turn "proving" that the writing team has done a fantastic job. It's impossible to please everyone, but they've pleased the huge majority of the playerbase.)

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This it not true. Tread it prove no chara live in guild like the EnDwAlKiNg.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

With the way this arc is going - assuming that 7.0 releases a decent enough story to come back for - I'll probably just boost my main through whatever remains of the 6.4-6.5 patch stories. After 6.3's lackluster spectacle I'm choosing to just watch a playthrough of any future MSQ for the foreseeable future. Pandaemonium remains the sole bastion of storytelling that I don't feel like I was forced out of, and will be the game's final chance to redeem itself in my eyes.

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Do not need to do this. Can just watch the letplay on YouTube. This way it is not need to making the guild static to clear the normal raid. P3N it is the too hard.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

but they've pleased the huge majority of the playerbase.)

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It's not a Striker post without mentioning the mysterious and elusive majoritah.

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...917.1654817530

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

It's not a Striker post without mentioning the mysterious and elusive majoritah.

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...917.1654817530

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I mean thats all they have, they never have any evidence to back up there claims. It might be in there head

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Yoshi

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Oh no no no no Cage to Cage. It good think guess but no. It like the game of the throne say the sweet summer kid. The conspirator it get better. Much much much better. Ayyybeyond he not say Endwalking ghost write by Yoshida. All chara know it the Yoshi island and writer bend the knee. It not conspirator all know. It get better. Reading the guild announcer. Problem it is the Jr writer. Who is the Jr. Is youth. Yoshi having the bigger age can not be the Jr. lmao. Must be reading tread to know truth of secret evil ghost writer.

No this the deep deep deep conspirator. Today show it bringing to you by letter K lmao.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

If nothing else theatch story has proven that trusting the nebulous "junior writers" proved to be a mistake. I'm half-tempted to wager a guess at who such individuals (or rather a specific individual) might be but I think I'll refrain from naming names. Those who know, know.

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Guild it know truth of the Endwalking ghost writer Jr. Are like the detective conan. We all waiting for day of great truth teller. In the Ayyy we believing.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

(Meanwhile, in the realm of reality, hundreds of thousands of players have thoroughly enjoyed EW, in turn "proving" that the writing team has done a fantastic job. It's impossible to please everyone, but they've pleased the huge majority of the playerbase.)

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Yes those Venat Fanboys, those MSQ Skippers who read just half of the Text ... have for sure enjoyed EW. Just give them here and there some Burger or Cookie eating scenes *SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUTEEEEEEEE*

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Originally Posted by Aneshda

Yes those Venat Fanboys, those MSQ Skippers who read just half of the Text ... have for sure enjoyed EW. Just give them here and there some Burger or Cookie eating scenes *SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUTEEEEEEEE*

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This expansion is all about 'hot' mom's, Loli birb, my loli goddess, boobies, a lot of 'hot' anime men in robes, idiot catman with a borger and a cookie.
I also think we got a new edgelord character but I dunno because the story is bad now for me to care.


Get me out of this hell hole and kill off every Scion but the twins and the elf.
Kill the catman please. Or let me do it because I hate Graha Turd'ia so much because
they completely destroyed his character. I will give Yshtola a pass if she goes to be with Runar
but otherwise she needs to be sent back to the lifestream or whatever the hell it's called.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Yoshi has repeatedly expressed some rather...strange opinions on Emet-Selch and the Ancients; namely not understanding why the former was so popular and assuming his role as an Ascian would've immediately drowned out any sympathy for him, and expecting the latter would be viewed as "scary". He's also had a very high opinion of Venat/Hydaelyn for...some reason (If him always sporting that jacket wasn't indication enough).

I'm not going to assume the story was twisted by his direction to try to drown out the nuance that was brought up in Shadowbringers, but I can understand why people would think that's the case.

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Honestly it is strange that people want to choose Emet-Selch; who is quote on quote a "megaloniacal maniac" driven by depression and people seem to easily ignore the countless amounts of genocide and suffering in multiple worlds. His plight is sympathetic but doesnt excuse the atrocities he committed. Its like that weird side of tumblr again who people love the fantasize villian characters because "they get me" or something like that. I just like Emet-Selch he's just an entertaining character and villain, not because I agree with what he did.

I'd still never agree with what he did in the wake of Endwalker, but the extra knowledge that he could've reasonably been prevented from going down the path he did just makes it more tragic now.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Honestly it is strange that people want to choose Emet-Selch; who is quote on quote a "megaloniacal maniac" driven by depression and people seem to easily ignore the countless amounts of genocide and suffering in multiple worlds. His plight is sympathetic but doesnt excuse the atrocities he committed. Its like that weird side of tumblr again who people love the fantasize villian characters because "they get me" or something like that. I just like Emet-Selch he's just an entertaining character and villain, not because I agree with what he did.

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Emet-Selch fought and killed for his own people.

The WoL fights and kills for his/her own people.

Venat wiped out HER OWN people cause she did not think them worthy of existence.