Letter to MR Yoshi: Why parses system is destroying the ffxiv world.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

If they do that, you're going to get a bunch of people quit right away. Not because they are bad, but because they don't want to play the game like raiders play the game. The way the game is now the only issue with dps is in savage, and to be blunt it ought to stay that way, because the risk of the game become as un fun as savage (and yes, people surprisingly dont find it fun, its why very few people do or complete it)

If you have a legal parser, you're asking for min-max style raiding to filter down, and the next thing they'll ask for is much harder casual content to force people to actually use the parsers and look up and practice the rotations. That's not going to be a fun game for a lot of people. I watched people struggle with royal menagerie and tusukyomi hard...if the game gets any harder in casual content, you'll start to see people unable to complete it, same as easy ex content.

Honestly, the game is fine casually. If you want a parser in savage and only savage, with the proviso theres a high dps check to be done solo to even get in it, ok. But the game as is, is fine for most people.

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Nobody is reasonably asking for Savage levels of performance in casual content.

What we are asking for, however, is for people at level 70 to actually have some kind of rudimentary understanding of how their job is supposed to perform. Do you have any idea how many Dragoons I've run into in ""Expert"" roulette that don't even humor the thought of touching Blood of the Dragon? How many Samurai that don't apply Higanbana? Ninjas that don't touch their mudras? Ruin Summoners? There are tons of DPS out there that insist on single target attacks during a mass pull, even.

Asking these people to utilize their skills in the way they were intended is not pushing my dirty "Savage Playstyle" on the innocent, unsuspecting casuals, and I'm getting really sick and tired of having to dispute this narrative.

There's a reason I basically never solo queue for any content anymore.

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Originally Posted by SargentToughie

What we are asking for, however, is for people at level 70 to actually have some kind of rudimentary understanding of how their job is supposed to perform. .

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I've not seen those people and to be blunt this sounds like a massive exaggeration. I do roulettes and stuff frequently, and people in general are decent at casual content. Most of it gets done in a timely manner with little deaths, once people get to practice it. Considering things like 24 mans most people play once per week, it takes a little time.

The game is fine, stick to your farm parties and complain about that. Dont ruin it for the rest of us.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

The game is fine, stick to your farm parties and complain about that. Dont ruin it for the rest of us.

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But that's not true at all. You even said so yourself.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

I watched people struggle with royal menagerie and tusukyomi hard...

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So have I. and when watching people struggle, I found myself often wishing that people were given more meaningful metrics to improve, so maybe these fights wouldn't actually be such an enormous hassle to go through. Especially since, relative to content that actually bites back, they're both pretty dang easy.

You seem to be caught on this slippery slope argument that we're asking for a harder game, we're not. I'm pretty satisfied with the difficulty allocation of the game's content right now. I'm asking for the players to have tools that would allow them to actually get better at the game, if they so wish to.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

If they do that, you're going to get a bunch of people quit right away. Not because they are bad, but because they don't want to play the game like raiders play the game. The way the game is now the only issue with dps is in savage, and to be blunt it ought to stay that way, because the risk of the game become as un fun as savage (and yes, people surprisingly dont find it fun, its why very few people do or complete it)

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Then they NEED to remove enrages from ALL casual content because the 2 concepts conflict with each other. 8 man normal and 24 man "catch up gear" shouldn't have enrages at all if this is the ideal that goes behind making this game. This means enrages should ONLY exist in CURRENT savage/ EX trail. Once a new series releases and outdates the one before, then those enrages should get removed. You can't "have your cake and eat it too" these 2 concepts conflict with one to another, so I need to ask, wth is the Dev team's true direction with this game? because atm, it is not working.

I am not fine wiping or taking 10 million years to complete a duty because of the skill requirement jump people are not ready for. the royal city of rabanastre is a good example of this, a lot of times people died to DPS checks in that duty on 2 different bosses because they are not trained to play at a somewhat acceptable level? As I said:

Basically I am not complaining about having enrages. I really do not care if it is soft or hard. What I care about and dislike is having enrages + babying the playerbase telling them sub 2k DPS is acceptable at level 70, then turn around have wipes in 8 man or 24 man from unable to clear it because people have 2k DPS? >.> see the problem here?

and some groups wipe on clock tower because people don't know how to change targets quickly or even aware they need to kill adds, and do somewhat acceptable rotations to meet those DPS checks. the royal city of rabanastre got so redicous at times, someone from a strong party, had to go enter the seal area and help the weaker party out. Kinda funny seeing a team of 3 DPS still beat killing the orb that 5 DPS where one is a good carry DPS, that still had a hard time making the difference up. (Granted healer and tank DPS would matter for that, the healers and tank in that party was most likely doing subpar as well)

"but because they don't want to play the game like raiders play the game."
guess what? to an extent, the game REQUIRES it with its DPS checks and people can't meet them when you have the producer suggesting it is ok to do 2k or less DPS because someone else can carry you. (the theory behind where "you do not pay for my sub" meme, came from)There is a point where low skill cannot be carried, one person can't make up the slack of 8 people under performing (a reference to the above example where a party of 7 still did more DPS then the party of 9, due to the other 8 being that subpar)

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

I've not seen those people and to be blunt this sounds like a massive exaggeration.

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Considering the last two dungeons I’ve done this evening have involved a WAR as the top DPS against a MNK, a BLM, a RDM, and a DRG, it’s really not. The last Swallow’s Compass I did, I did more damage than the BLM...as an AST. Inb4 comments about how I’m a raider, my AST has 1 piece of Diamond gear, which is an accessory. Everything else is 360. I did more damage than them on both AOE pulls AND on bosses. There is literally no excuse for that.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

Then they NEED to remove enrages from ALL casual content because the 2 concepts conflict with each other. 8 man normal and 24 man "catch up gear" shouldn't have enrages at all if this is the ideal that goes behind making this game. This means enrages should ONLY exist in CURRENT savage/ EX trail. Once a new series releases and outdates the one before, then those enrages should get removed. You can't "have your cake and eat it too" these 2 concepts conflict with one to another, so I need to ask, wth is the Dev team's true direction with this game? because atm, it is not working.

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What is the point in removing enrage timers from outdated content? If you can’t beat the enrage timer when you blatantly overgear a fight, then that speaks more about your performance compared to seeing the enrage in relevant-tier gear, or being undergeared. Keep the timers.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Considering the last two dungeons I’ve done this evening have involved a WAR as the top DPS against a MNK, a BLM, a RDM, and a DRG, it’s really not. The last Swallow’s Compass I did, I did more damage than the BLM...as an AST. Inb4 comments about how I’m a raider, my AST has 1 piece of Diamond gear, which is an accessory. Everything else is 360. I did more damage than them on both AOE pulls AND on bosses. There is literally no excuse for that.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

WAR as the top DPS against a MNK, a BLM, a RDM, and a DRG

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

RDM

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This is a problem, this right here. Did you know that some Red Mages out there insist on hardcasting Veraero and Vertunder and never even touching Jolt?

I thought that RDM was actually impossible to mess up until that moment. It was almost enough to make me unsub.

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Originally Posted by SargentToughie

This is a problem, this right here. Did you know that some Red Mages out there insist on hardcasting Veraero and Vertunder and never even touching Jolt?

I thought that RDM was actually impossible to mess up until that moment. It was almost enough to make me unsub.

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This RDM touched Scatter maybe a handful of times. Every other time they were just single-targeting pulls. This was in Ala Mhigo, and they were in 350/360 gear. I’m guessing it was one of those players that saw “270/300 potency of Ver-spells” versus the “100 potency” of Scatter and thought “these are stronger, so I should use those”. The amount of players who think this is staggering.

My personal favorite was when the tank pulled the giant Magitek spider thing with all the babies before the two Collosus right before you fight Zenos, and they didn’t kill the mass pack of mobs, but went and single-target killed the gates before the Collosus.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

What is the point in removing enrage timers from outdated content? If you can’t beat the enrage timer when you blatantly overgear a fight, then that speaks more about your performance compared to seeing the enrage in relevant-tier gear, or being undergeared. Keep the timers.

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Who knows. I said what I said for pure concept only, as the 2 concepts are conflicting. Outdated EX/ savage content might as well be "casual content" at that point so everyone can have an opportunity to get mounts or w/e SE's reasoning is behind giving everyone access to everything. It is to further explain what I am getting at with my issues with enrages with the approach and style the rest of the game has. You are right, what I said makes no sense on the surface, but that was not the point I was getting at. The point I wanted to ague was the concepts of the game approaching itself and what audience it is trying to appeal to, and how the 2 approaches are conflicting.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

This RDM touched Scatter maybe a handful of times. Every other time they were just single-targeting pulls. This was in Ala Mhigo, and they were in 350/360 gear. I’m guessing it was one of those players that saw “270/300 potency of Ver-spells” versus the “100 potency” of Scatter and thought “these are stronger, so I should use those”. The amount of players who think this is staggering.

My personal favorite was when the tank pulled the giant Magitek spider thing with all the babies before the two Collosus right before you fight Zenos, and they didn’t kill the mass pack of mobs, but went and single-target killed the gates before the Collosus.

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I hope you try to instruct them, lol

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

I hope you try to instruct them, lol

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So they can ignore me? Trust me, I’ve tried multiple times to instruct. People don’t listen.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

So they can ignore me? Trust me, I’ve tried multiple times to instruct. People don’t listen.

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Don't forget - they might also call you names and tell you that you don't pay their sub.