Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

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Originally Posted by WingedAsarath

Adding my +1 in support. Female Roe and Male Miquote were added to this game to remove the gender locks. It seems backwards to add gender locks back in. I'm always in support of more options and greater customisation.

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Tempering with the lore of your own game is different than tempering with the lore of 4 much older games.

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Originally Posted by Repliku

Tempering with the lore of your own game is different than tempering with the lore of 4 much older games.

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The lore has it that a viera can leave the wood to seek aid from outsiders and the likes if the greenword - the wood - allows it; this is granted if the viera or the wood itself is in danger. The lore is flexible - especially for a WoL who would fit into this.

Supported, I don’t like gender locks

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Originally Posted by Roda

Other players aren't canon, WoL is unique. Don't take other people's happiness, immersion, and representation away for your own "pleasure"
I don't see you telling male miqo'te to go back to their tribe, the shroud, duskwights to go back to their caves, xaela to go back to the steppe, or raen to go back underwater.

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Other players aren't canon, so are male vieras roaming the streets.

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Originally Posted by Repliku

Why else would you care about the specific gender of a specific race that has had the specific specificity of being represented by only one gender for nearly two decades

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not everything is about ERP some people do just want male viera for something different to try out or just to fill in missing gender i just want cool woodland rabbit warriors (if they are not them i will be ok just because it fills in missing genders),
now we have heard about male viera being a thing in Final Fantasy XII Ultimania Omega which was a book about ff12 in 2006
same year ff12 was release so viera have never really been a female only race.

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Originally Posted by Akava

I have no intention of playing Viera male or female and I'm a bit worried about how many people would actually play male Viera to make it worth the dev cost, but if enough people would play it, then it should be added.

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Just a reminder that Miqo'te were previously the only race unavailable to male characters, and now male Miqo'te are played FAR more than the other previously male-only races: Highlander and Roegadyn.

The devs thought we would rather play Highlanders and Roes than male Miqo'te, and they were wrong. They don't really seem to be in touch with what people want to play, imo.

This has my support.

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

Bro, what's your endgame here?

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I don't want to see the lore of the Viera broken because a vocal minority of unsavory characters has decided to try to bully a dev team out of their vision, for the sake of RP and (I quote) "Diversity and inclusion".
Mine is feedback too.
Stick to your decision, maybe fix the Male Hrothgar with an actual unique model.

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

Bro, what's your endgame here? Honestly, don't understand why you're here. The devs are looking at feedback, we have confirmation they're looking at the feedback. This is a thread that so far is being rather tame and given support and feedback. ????

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One way of taking it is that the devs are less interested in rather esoteric political arguments on the matter (particularly this nonsense with the "right side of history" vibe to it) and more interested to simply gauge demand for the race. I for one agree with him that the political arguments should stay out of the equation.

They are likely to be much more interested in metrics like whether this would affect a purchase than being preached at.

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Originally Posted by Hikelos

I don't want to see the lore of the Viera broken because a vocal minority of unsavory characters has decided to try to bully a dev team out of their vision, for the sake of RP and (I quote) "Diversity and inclusion".
Mine is feedback too.
Stick to your decision, maybe fix the Male Hrothgar with an actual unique model.

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I mean, the lore doesn't prohibit them, anymore than mooncat lore prohibits male mooncats or the WoL as a WHM. It's a nonstarter. Regarding your comment about Zenos, I'm not sure how female Viera don't pose the same issue. It's a weak line of reasoning, and the devs don't seem to be dogmatically basing this on the lore... which doesn't even make the argument you think it does.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

not everything is about ERP some people do just want male viera for something different to try out or just to fill in missing gender i just want cool woodland rabbit warriors (if they are not them i will be ok just because it fills in missing genders),
now we have heard about male viera being a thing in Final Fantasy XII Ultimania Omega which was a book about ff12 in 2006
same year ff12 was release so viera have never really been a female only race.

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Vieras go back to 2003 with FFTA pal, not 2006 with FFXII.

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Originally Posted by Repliku

Tempering with the lore of your own game is different than tempering with the lore of 4 much older games.

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No one is tempering the lore of those games. Things can work differently in FFXIV if the team so desires. They have the power and control to write something that works in XIV and the older games will remain unchanged.