Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

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Originally Posted by hamburglar

but to actually have the great community others say this is, taking time to welcome new players and explaining mechanics would go a long way.

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People do but you need to ask, I'm not going to explain The Vault to every sprout that I get in my rolo and tbh learning through mistakes is often better.

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Originally Posted by hamburglar

i only bought the game about two months ago and rushed through the msq.

the novice network started my experience with booting me and leaving bullies on who were attacking others. replies often enough for questions was to google the question. mentors who spoke of others in a way they'd just give up and leave.

during this time i joined and quickly left a total of 5 fc's. with various reasons to not stay ranging from it being too clique, meaning they left new players out of any content they ran. another fc had a rival fc they were always talking about. calling that out had them focusing the same energy onto me. and the last fc's were so quick to leave a good impression which then got ruined by members openly calling others noobs, and stupid.

aside from novice and fc, i got roulette parties with mentors, even. dungeons and raids have never been more toxic. how can i get gud if you;'re pulling mid sentence while i'm asking for help?

the least players could do is wait for my cut scenes. but to actually have the great community others say this is, taking time to welcome new players and explaining mechanics would go a long way.

my sub ends in ...4 days. i'm done. and the only groups i ever enjoyed were blue mage party finder. the limited job had the most potential. i'm sad, but done.

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I will miss you, lala.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

So you rushed the MSQ and then you complain others are rushing the MSQ

alrighty then

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Well, he said the people rushing were mentors, so it doesn't sound like they were doing the MSQ too.

syrcus-tower

yes, that place where i always desperately try to find something for my brain... lvl 50 skillset, no positionals as redmage (thats why i like positionals so much, it keeps me occupied), barely any mechanics to do... even if its just one single thought like pull the enemies together.
but no, one of the tanks takes the aggro and... stays there... far away from the other mobs... why? just pull them together o.o pulling enemies together certainly isnt difficult, right?

but who am i kidding? 20min previously i've been in sirene-sea... the enemies in the beginning on the ship? thd tank just stays without to move in the middle, the enemies around him.
dude, its nice for you when you have self centered aoe to hit them all, i dont, position yourself better pls. whats about all the other jobs you played? another tank lvl 90? dragoon? redmage? did you forget everything the moment you switch jobs?

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Originally Posted by Asari5

syrcus-tower

yes, that place where i always desperately try to find something for my brain... lvl 50 skillset, no positionals as redmage (thats why i like positionals so much, it keeps me occupied), barely any mechanics to do... even if its just one single thought like pull the enemies together.

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Serious question, if you want positionals, why were you playing RDM, which has none?

to get exp for lvl ups

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

Serious question, if you want positionals, why were you playing RDM, which has none?

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Originally Posted by Asari5

to get exp for lvl ups

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Someone took issue with the fact I was doing normal roulette with friends. First time seeing some truly maidenless behavior in a while https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...41fc0da1cc.png

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

Someone took issue with the fact I was doing normal roulette with friends. First time seeing some truly maidenless behavior in a while https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...41fc0da1cc.png

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Where they a Alpha legend or were they mentioning that you are... because... maybe you didn't play perfectly??? I'm at a loss. Spam is reportable afaik

Wasn't liking the new Field of Glory (Shatter) from last week's attempt, but I decided to give the mode another chance... just in case (and hopefully!) I ended up liking it.

I did not. Felt even worse than the now removed Borderland, most actively try to avoid engaging each other. Why play PvP when you don't want to murder another...

Our team won, but there was very little chaos to enjoy. Probably will just start ignoring the roulette for Field of Glory from now on. :(

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

Someone took issue with the fact I was doing normal roulette with friends. First time seeing some truly maidenless behavior in a while https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...41fc0da1cc.png

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At least it wasn't skip the clams spam.

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Originally Posted by BRVV

Where they a Alpha legend or were they mentioning that you are... because... maybe you didn't play perfectly??? I'm at a loss. Spam is reportable afaik

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1000% someones alt

dunno if their main cleared or what the deal was

they have the first 2 bosses of savage cleared so def someone pushing content

Not a rant about any player but SE!!! For the love of god change attacks to actually making contact for example Aoe: If the player is present in the animation not if their still standing there after the cast finishes. This has for years caused players to get hit by attacks they were completely clear of. Yes nothing more enjoyable then being clear of Aoe and still getting hit by it, even though your Million yards away from it!!!

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Not a rant about any player but SE!!! For the love of god change attacks to actually making contact for example Aoe: If the player is present in the animation not if their still standing there after the cast finishes. This has for years caused players to get hit by attacks they were completely clear of. Yes nothing more enjoyable then being clear of Aoe and still getting hit by it, even though your Million yards away from it!!!

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I use to get so annoyed at this too until I figured out that if you get hit or not is entirely based off the cast time, not the animation. If it has a cast bar, get out before it's done. The animation will play out after but you'll get hit regardless if you weren't out when the cast finished.
Not saying this will fix all issues (there's always random lag ) but it helped me tons.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

I use to get so annoyed at this too until I figured out that if you get hit or not is entirely based off the cast time, not the animation. If it has a cast bar, get out before it's done. The animation will play out after but you'll get hit regardless if you weren't out when the cast finished.
Not saying this will fix all issues (there's always random lag ) but it helped me tons.

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Thats what my rant is about it should not be based off if you are still there when the cast finishes but if you are there when the animation goes off.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Thats what my rant is about it should not be based off if you are still there when the cast finishes but if you are there when the animation goes off.

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Woops, missed that one line in there (my b, skimmed I fast).

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Woops, missed that one line in there (my b, skimmed I fast).

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Its alright. Made the same mistake myself more then once reading posts.

Decided to take a break from WHM and pick up my books as SCH. Things shouldn't be that terribly spicy, I thought. I was wrong and am in need of therapy.

Shortly after this, the tank earned themselves a third lightning stack and lived to tell the tale.

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So earlier today I was running raid roulettes as pld tank and got an 18 min in-prog. I wondered what it was. I load in and surprisingly enough it's P12, but there were only two other dps and a sage in there.

According to one of the two remaining dps, it was their first time, had lots of other first-timers in there, and neither of the tanks wanted to tank. While we eventually fill and clear in less time it took for the penalty to clear on the first leaver, it makes me wonder why people sign up for roles they don't want to perform in duty roulette.

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Originally Posted by Cincierta

So earlier today I was running raid roulettes as pld tank and got an 18 min in-prog. I wondered what it was. I load in and surprisingly enough it's P12, but there were only two other dps and a sage in there.

According to one of the two remaining dps, it was their first time, had lots of other first-timers in there, and neither of the tanks wanted to tank. While we eventually fill and clear in less time it took for the penalty to clear on the first leaver, it makes me wonder why people sign up for roles they don't want to perform in duty roulette.

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Honestly, the most annoying ones for me are the ones who won't tank until I pull.

I load in, I see the other tank has no stance.
No stance on during the whole cutscene wait.
Cutscenes finish, no stance.
Give it a few secs, turn mine on, pull, and they immediately turns theirs on and start competing for aggro during opener burst.

Like dood, if you want to tank, give me a sign.

Just happened, sprout in world of darkness, after cerberus my poor dude had two debuffs and ended up passing out on the floor leading to Cloud of darkness, healer writes “lmao” Im still laughing

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Originally Posted by Iyrnthota

Honestly, the most annoying ones for me are the ones who won't tank until I pull.

I load in, I see the other tank has no stance.
No stance on during the whole cutscene wait.
Cutscenes finish, no stance.
Give it a few secs, turn mine on, pull, and they immediately turns theirs on and start competing for aggro during opener burst.

Like dood, if you want to tank, give me a sign.

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Main Healer since Stormblood, so it's time for a change but nothing hard: WAR it is.
I go into Roulettes, 8-Man Roulette was the first stop (Anabaseios: The Twelfth Circle). The other Tank, a PLD with no stance, i ready check, i wait for cut scene, 7 sec countdown and
i jump start the opener aaaaaaaannnndddd PLD pulls out stance + provoke... BTW provoke was after that part of his rotation.
For real, i dont know but from where is this idea comming: provoke= on CD. Really wanna know and ask this person who or what did hurt him or her. Also not using chat...

Next one Alliance Raid (Euphrosyne) same buisness BUT with a twist the GNB and DRK provoked each other the whole instance and killed people in the process.
Okay content with too much people invites - special one's - so i go Expert (The Aetherfont) as a healer only to meet the HERO, the LEGEND, the GIGA-CHAD of a WAR that
never used any defense CD's and runs around the boss like a fidget-spinner. It took us almost 40 minutes to clear and no commendations for me.

Roulettes are cursed for me, just simply cursed.

I think DF is out to get me whenever I go SCH.

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Originally Posted by Cincierta

I think DF is out to get me whenever I go SCH[...]

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DF be like "Shield healer? Great! Please assist this paper tank, and you will like it!"

It's either a tank so overgeared that you don't need to heal at all, or a paper tank who crumbles into dust no matter how hard you try. There is no in-between.

Ran 8-man Raid Roulette.

Got P12 (Rave Time!).

An epic battle ensued featuring a new healer not knowing what they were doing (and dying a lot), the tanks (myself included) seamlessly juggling her as we went up and down due to said inexperienced healer, and finally a healer LB3 saving what was otherwise a lost fight at 10%.

The Orchestrion roll finally dropped...

I rolled a 1.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

It's either a tank so overgeared that you don't need to heal at all, or a paper tank who crumbles into dust no matter how hard you try. There is no in-between.

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https://youtu.be/BQ4yd2W50No?t=19

Got kicked out of Frontline because i disliked the chat being spammed by someone else.

Queued again and ignored chat and commands. No kick. Will proceed to do so. #gcbtw

Go whm. Get Skalla on 70/80 roulette.

DRK SMN NIN WHM

DRK doesn't do large pulls but is more than geared for the dungeon.

Sparingly and randomly uses cooldowns.

Never touches TBN entire run.

Tell them they can pull bigger and make sure to pop cooldowns.

Met with silence for rest of the run.

My inner DRK is salty.

Do You Ever Look at Someone and Wonder, "What Is Going On Inside Their Head?"
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I decided to try out AST again. I need practice. At least the group was very patient with me cause I totally forgot how the damn role works.

Speaking of AST...

Me as I watch the full crown mentor in the party give the AST who has been performing perfectly well bad advice:
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Originally Posted by Iyrnthota

Honestly, the most annoying ones for me are the ones who won't tank until I pull.

I load in, I see the other tank has no stance.
No stance on during the whole cutscene wait.
Cutscenes finish, no stance.
Give it a few secs, turn mine on, pull, and they immediately turns theirs on and start competing for aggro during opener burst.

Like dood, if you want to tank, give me a sign.

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This drives me up the wall in alliance raids especially. I'm not concerned about which of us MTs so if someone does this on the first boss if I pulled it, I'll drop stance and give them the chance to pull on the next boss. Then on next boss they wait and wait and wait and wait. A dps or healer pulls so I put up stance and toss a Lightning Shot and try to get the fight going...and the other tank puts on stance and immediately provokes again. I don't give a darn which of us tanks. I just want one of us to do it.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Speaking of AST...

Me as I watch the full crown mentor in the party give the AST who has been performing perfectly well bad advice:
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...1lnR/giphy.gif

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Oh man, that sucks! Some people really don't deserve the crown orz

Did a Dun Scaith where the first boss I didn't even have time to DPS. I was raising and raising and raising.

Did you know the boss if it survives long enough it can putt death fields on the entire battleground causing a full wipe? Well now you do cause people were living challenged.

AST has good Mana management though. I raised a record 48 times that entire run. Was never fully bone dry.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

This drives me up the wall in alliance raids especially. I'm not concerned about which of us MTs so if someone does this on the first boss if I pulled it, I'll drop stance and give them the chance to pull on the next boss. Then on next boss they wait and wait and wait and wait. A dps or healer pulls so I put up stance and toss a Lightning Shot and try to get the fight going...and the other tank puts on stance and immediately provokes again. I don't give a darn which of us tanks. I just want one of us to do it.

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Same here, I like main tanking but I tend to sit around without stance on and see if one of the others is going because I hate fighting over aggro/random voking in the first 30 seconds.

dzemeal darkhold (i think thats the english name?)

the tank was a newbe and he obviously didnt know how to handle ranged enemies. he looked pretty helpless going back and forth trying to pull them tofether xD.
so i said 'hide behind an edge to pull ranged enemies together'

the healer was instantly like: what are you talking about? he did fine.

dude stop the overprotection i didnt shame him. i gave him a tip, a simple tip. not even critisism is shaming. i swear this overprtection stuff is way worse than people are sensitiv about themselves


in the end befiore we left the tank thanked me for my advice

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Originally Posted by Asari5

dzemeal darkhold (i think thats the english name?)

the tank was a newbe and he obviously didnt know how to handle ranged enemies. he looked pretty helpless going back and forth trying to pull them tofether xD.
so i said 'hide behind an edge to pull ranged enemies together'

the healer was instantly like: what are you talking about? he did fine.

dude stop the overprotection i didnt shame him. i gave him a tip, a simple tip. not even critisism is shaming. i swear this overprtection stuff is way worse than people are sensitiv about themselves


in the end befiore we left the tank thanked me for my advice

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. I wish more tanks would do this with those damn bogey ghost things in Dzemael.

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Originally Posted by Dekent

Same here, I like main tanking but I tend to sit around without stance on and see if one of the others is going because I hate fighting over aggro/random voking in the first 30 seconds.

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I especially hate it when they intentionally plant themselves on the other side of the boss.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

Did a Dun Scaith where the first boss I didn't even have time to DPS. I was raising and raising and raising.

Did you know the boss if it survives long enough it can putt death fields on the entire battleground causing a full wipe? Well now you do cause people were living challenged.

AST has good Mana management though. I raised a record 48 times that entire run. Was never fully bone dry.

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Death still needs help being a good teacher. But yeah, I'd be more concerned with the fact that people were constantly dying to the point where the soft enrage happened. I've seen it happen and it makes me worry about some people.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

. I wish more tanks would do this with those damn bogey ghost things in Dzemael.

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Another thing I wish tanks did...is run THROUGH the second pack of enemies so that they are all gathered on one side of the tank, rather than completely circling them making it a LOT harder for the DPS with AoEs that don't reach very far to be able to hit everything. So many tanks I get stop right in front of the second pack, making it so half the pull is behind them and half in front.