Post Your Healing Horror Stories.

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Originally Posted by VitalSuit

If I see 1 more tank pull 3 groups of mobs and only use 1 cooldown while I'm trying to dps I'm gonna scream.
I had a WAR tank in Pharos Sirius HM that only used foresight during trash pulls and CONSTANTLY moved the mobs out of my shadowflare.

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Even worse with AST when you put up regens, run over to tank to use Collective Unconcious, tank sees bubble, moves out of it, wheel of fate doesnt do up on tank, you sit there facepalming...........

I think there are those tanks you get in DF who dont understand in dungeons, multiple packs of trash do significantly more damage than the bosses, and that where you need to use those cooldowns..........

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Even worse with AST when you put up regens, run over to tank to use Collective Unconcious, tank sees bubble, moves out of it, wheel of fate doesnt do up on tank, you sit there facepalming...........

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http://i.giphy.com/Gyb2z5VlDUQqk.gif

Just missed a potential 14k heal over time. Well thank you, dear tank.

I feel like the WAR tank in my SMA ex roulette yesterday was resentful about me DPSing. We had a DRG and BRD for DPS, with me on SCH. I like to swiftcast shadow flare when the tank stops, miasma 2, switch out of cleric to heal them, then go back to put my dots up if things look safe. This tank though..

He was the kind to stop until the mobs got 25-50% of HP down, then decide he really should continue running and grab more mobs. I feel like he was purposefully not using CDs, especially on the bosses, and watched him stand in some non-lethal AoEs. DPS was out of TP / I was dangerous low on MP? Perfect time to pull our half-dead group to the next!! Our DRG died on one pull because he decided to chill in an AoE that one shotted him, but I didn't have swiftcast up so he respawned to run back.. tank pulled next group as soon as the DRG got to us, even though our pack wasn't dead.

I halfway expected him to pull alllllll the things to the honeycomb, but his pulls there were a bit erratic, so I spent more time healing and barely added to the DPS. He didn't say a word all dungeon, and left immediately.

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Originally Posted by AzureFlare

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Same.....same....

Also when I miss the tank with collective unconscious by a hair while trying to also get the def buff on the DPS too.... and they just will NOT get the hell in one gaddamn quarter of a step. :|
Seriously, they're so close they have a glowing bubble pressed against their face and burning their retnas. :|
This has happened, so many times...
I wish I could give them that gif's expression, as I stare at them from my bubble....

Helped a friend complete his relic-step 2.

And there comes the Vault. I was as a monk, my friend as whm. As early as first boss, I take a quick look at the SMN's gear, as I found we were taking quite long to murder the first few packs of mobs. Imagine my surprise when I realized the SMN had all jewels VIT. So of course we tried to chat with her. No answer.
Everything goes quite fine, with both the tank and I compensating somehow.
And we reach the last boss. We were soooo slow at killing the boss with the summoner doing like 60% of the average damage she should be doing. So we try again to chat, and then she answers that she didn't know about SMN's main stat being "Intel".. Okaaay. "Do you have any Intel jewels in your inventory ? or even crit/ SS will do" - Nope -


She was new to the game obviously, and it was her first time running this dungeon as well. She died in every try we did (4 in total), tank, the healer and I being the only ones left everytime. We finally cleared it. After 50minutes.

Anyway, I find it really absurd that NOBODY told her about that before.

Now she knows at least ^^

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Originally Posted by VitalSuit

I had a WAR tank in Pharos Sirius HM that only used foresight during trash pulls and CONSTANTLY moved the mobs out of my shadowflare.

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Playing Devil's advocate a bit here, but I sympathize when Tanks move stuff out of bubbles or ground based AoE's. Sometimes unavoidable or outright necessary.

Avoiding enemy AoE's means that they have to move position, but they also can't turn the mobs too far (cuz they screw up melee positioning) or towards the party (cuz they will feed the group enemy AoE's). So, the only real option is to continually sidestep/backstep/shuffle. Personally, I try to stay within the AoE's as much as I can, but eventually you're gonna slowly shift out of them, because turning the whole mob around when you reach the rim is not an option.

Further, tightly packed groups of mobs push each other around. Unlike player hitboxes, enemy hitboxes do not overlap. Instead they shove up against one another until they settle into position. Tanks have to micro adjust their position in relation to those movements to ensure every mob gets hit by enmity AoE's and, more importantly, is reachable by a combo attack (enemies that get shoved to the rear sometimes fall outside of the Tank's range. No hit = no enmity). Wars in particular have the extra worry of keeping mobs facing their front when they use Raw Intuition, and a constant steady backstep is unavoidable to keep mobs off your flanks.

For Tanks, if you have to chose between holding position and taking more dmg or losing enmity over moving a mob out of a ground based AoE/Bubble (especially if the healer is already focusing on Dps rather than healing), they're gonna move. DoT potency is not worth the Tank's life or enmity, especially when the Tank is the first player to get yelled at whenever anything goes wrong, regardless of the situation.

That being said... any Tank that is only using one def CD (especially a weak one like Fracture) for 3 groups of mobs is a moron, and the logic of proper positioning does not apply. I, myself, had a Drk tank Dusk Vigil last night who barely used any buffs and was frequently dropping Grit. I have absolutely no problems with Stance Dancing to optimize Mp and Dps as a tank, but if you're going to do it you should at least be using buffs to compensate for the increase in damage. I wanted smack that little lala for being a twat.

I had a run in Wanderer's Palace Hard for my tomestone grinding for my relic. Had a group that wasn't new, but kept ignoring mechanics. We wiped on the first boss because people suddenly decided to burn the boss and ignore the spears. Next boss we wiped because no one would step in the magic circles, thus the boss gained insane damage buffs. Also had the tank yelling at me for not healing him, despite the fact that I got turned into a frog >.>

Ate the penalty.

So I was doing my high level roulette and got Amdapor HM. First thing that happens? Tank runs out of Protect. Okay. He pulls everything up to the first plant and I start to heal him (no chance to DPS at all since his HP is dropping rapidly) and I even attempted to recast protect but I kept getting hit.

Next thing I know he pulls everything up to and AFTER the roots then pulls them back to get the debuff from said roots... Divine Seal + Presence of Mind Cure II (+ he had Regen on too) could not keep him alive. My Cure II spells just prolonged the inevitable wipe. After we wiped I joked and said "So you gunna wait for Protect this time?" Little did I know that he was already blazing a path back to the mobs. And then... he quit. This was only like 3 minutes in so we has to wait before we could kick. After waiting 10 minutes though, I left...

Benediction is not Instant. FIN.

Got a story somewhat similiar to Februs'.

Rolled levelling roulette and got into Aery with a DK, a monk and a bard. I was the WHM. First thing that comes out of the tank's mouth is "Am I supposed to mob this group? All of them?". Warning signs go off like christmas lights in my head. The tank apologizes profusely for not knowing the dungeon, and says " I've never done Aery." which I think is bull because he had a hive weapon and I'm fairly sure you need to have completed story quest HW to even get into RavEx?

Things were shaky for the duration of the run. We had to run him through how to tank, how mob, where to mob...etc etc. Somehow we managed it until the final boss Nidhogg where we wiped twice because everyone forgot to release me from Sable Price. On the third run, we managed to make it all the until Estinien's shield part. Only to have the tank stand IN FRONT of Estinien after and blasted him with full force of Nidhogg's attack. Estinien dies. We die next.

Monk ragequits at this point, tank apologizes profusely again. We get a new DPS and completed the dungeon.

I guess it wasn't so much of a horror story as a "WTH was that all about" run, but at the end of it all, I had a good chuckle about it.

DF Ultima's Bane. Party was me (WHM), SCH, PLD, WAR, BRD, BLM, BLM, SMN.

Bard didn't use Foe's Requiem one single time.
Bard died for plumes.
Bard died for Garuda.
Bard got hit by Titan and laser by the boss and died.
Bard died to Ifrit multiple times.
Bard was dead the overall fight.
Bard also didn't help soaking balls and we wiped 7 times because balls were colliding.

Add to this mess: a BLM casting Blizzard 2 at least 2 times/minute, for whatever reason; my co-healer, a SCH with an ilv80 Titan book and overall lv45 acessories and the fact that no one (save me and SMN) knew how to deal with the crashing airships (with the purple waves, just like A1 jump).

7 wipes. Did it with 20% echo + tank LB because the BLMs+BRD didn't help soaking balls and they collided every single time.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

I had a run in Wanderer's Palace Hard ... no one would step in the magic circles, thus the boss gained insane damage buffs.

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Well to be honest I've never done that with a group that really does the circles we just burn it lol. Thankfully I had all decent groups for my astro relic runs but it helps being way overgeared I guess. Had a new person for the vault but aside from them not knowing mechanics (eating orbs lol) they were decent.

Thinking back to my healing horrors (annoyances really)...mainly revolve around tanks doing big pulls without warning (so everyone is far behind) and never stopping so they die before I can get a heal off lol. My friend had a good time with an annoyingly loud no-cd tank last night in dr ex lol. If you have enough time to complain you can play properly.

I forgot to mention that this was in a roulette, so it was synced. It was still a bad time with people ignoring stuff and causing wipes.

Queued for Leveling Roulette on my SCH hoping for something easy. Get Sohm Al. Tank is good and very paitent, waiting for both Stoneskin and Adlo before each pull. We get to the last boss and healing it is a bit trickier than it felt on my WHM and AST, about 10% left on the boss and the BLM says, "y u not dot more" before promptly standing in 3 different AoEs and dying faster than I can Lustrate.

Gee. Maybe that's why.

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Originally Posted by Selli

Queued for Leveling Roulette on my SCH hoping for something easy. Get Sohm Al. Tank is good and very paitent, waiting for both Stoneskin and Adlo before each pull. We get to the last boss and healing it is a bit trickier than it felt on my WHM and AST, about 10% left on the boss and the BLM says, "y u not dot more" before promptly standing in 3 different AoEs and dying faster than I can Lustrate.

Gee. Maybe that's why.

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Nice to see you back as a Miqo'te. lol

Yeah, in situations like that I would generally tell the DPS off after he stood in the AoEs. Buuut I've kinda gotten fed up with being treated like a miracle worker so I don't old back anymore. >_>

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Originally Posted by Selli

Queued for Leveling Roulette on my SCH hoping for something easy. Get Sohm Al. Tank is good and very paitent, waiting for both Stoneskin and Adlo before each pull. We get to the last boss and healing it is a bit trickier than it felt on my WHM and AST, about 10% left on the boss and the BLM says, "y u not dot more" before promptly standing in 3 different AoEs and dying faster than I can Lustrate.

Gee. Maybe that's why.

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There is never any time to do anything else in that fight. Geez people who never healed need pick it up sometime and learn the truth..

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Originally Posted by Saseal

Same.....same....

Also when I miss the tank with collective unconscious by a hair while trying to also get the def buff on the DPS too.... and they just will NOT get the hell in one gaddamn quarter of a step. :|
Seriously, they're so close they have a glowing bubble pressed against their face and burning their retnas. :|
This has happened, so many times...
I wish I could give them that gif's expression, as I stare at them from my bubble....

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I can't count the amount of bards/machinists using B4B during Thordie ex with my hands and toes anymore. Using B4B during the last AoE phase or Ancient Quagas after the chains+ice+meteor+otherstuffIforgot and deciding to just, you know, put up a tent and sit right outside the range of the bubble.
And then they wonder why they die when people kill each other just before that and expect me to just soloheal all that + their mistakes.
Now that's when I over-rustle.

Decided to run some A4 on AST for relic items in df. Holy mother of god it was bad.

One group, the MT decided to run around doing other stuff whilst tanking, like orbs, triple tethers and adds. This meant that they were not holding aggro, the OT was in quarantine, so the boss just murdered everyone down the list when the MT lost aggro. MT wasnt new, just bad.

Another group, the SCH kept running on top of me when nisi was out, guess what instant wipe. Turned out they were new, but didnt say anything. Lover people like this, content with wiping groups rather than ask for tactics etc at the start.

Another group no one did anything with the adds, except the darknight OT, but they were usually in quarantine when adds spawned, but when they came back they did their damnedest to get the adds under control. Sadly it was usually too late as they had murdered one healer and were on the rampage after the other.

Another group mechanics were just bad. Several people going after the same orbs, all getting hit by the aoe and no one holding back to wait for heals. Wipe after wipe after wipe. Funny because i was managing one set of orbs by myself, whilst the OT was handling the other set, yet people just kept on following myself or OT and die a lot. Also tethers not handled and mass deaths.

I gave up after 4 runs taking 70-80 mins to complete......i just wanted those 4 tokens to complete another set of 10.

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Originally Posted by Selli

Queued for Leveling Roulette on my SCH hoping for something easy. Get Sohm Al. Tank is good and very paitent, waiting for both Stoneskin and Adlo before each pull. We get to the last boss and healing it is a bit trickier than it felt on my WHM and AST, about 10% left on the boss and the BLM says, "y u not dot more" before promptly standing in 3 different AoEs and dying faster than I can Lustrate.

Gee. Maybe that's why.

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mfw people call me out for not dps'ing and the entire reason is because they're standing in 9 flavors of stupid:

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Healing horror story of the day: Leviathan ex in duty finder trying to get a clear for a FC member. Enough said.

There was this tank that tried to run straight from the beginning to the end boss in Sastasha. His excuse? "I just really wanna fight the boss!" -facepalm- :/

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Funny because i was managing one set of orbs by myself

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Sounds like about every run in A4 I do... I'm also used to take one row of 3 by myself, orb>cure>orb>tetra>orb and then I have all the time in the world to cure myself. Yet, everytime there is THAT guy who just can't stand still and will try to outrun me, causing 2 orbs to explode at us. I usually get out of it alive, as we healers have a higher Mdef, but the dps always dies. And I can't stop cursing out loud :p

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Originally Posted by cgbspender

Sounds like about every run in A4 I do... I'm also used to take one row of 3 by myself, orb>cure>orb>tetra>orb and then I have all the time in the world to cure myself. Yet, everytime there is THAT guy who just can't stand still and will try to outrun me, causing 2 orbs to explode at us. I usually get out of it alive, as we healers have a higher Mdef, but the dps always dies. And I can't stop cursing out loud :p

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Dude, right? I can take all six by myself if I have to (scholar OP) but DPS act like I'm glass or something. It's like, you see me with a galvanize up camped out right in front of an orb yet you run over there and explode it on both of us and now I have to heal you too. It's even more frustrating when Perpetual Ray takes out either me or the DPS that blew the orb up on me. Dx

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Originally Posted by cgbspender

Sounds like about every run in A4 I do... I'm also used to take one row of 3 by myself, orb>cure>orb>tetra>orb and then I have all the time in the world to cure myself. Yet, everytime there is THAT guy who just can't stand still and will try to outrun me, causing 2 orbs to explode at us. I usually get out of it alive, as we healers have a higher Mdef, but the dps always dies. And I can't stop cursing out loud :p

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Dude, right? I can take all six by myself if I have to (scholar OP) but DPS act like I'm glass or something. It's like, you see me with a galvanize up camped out right in front of an orb yet you run over there and explode it on both of us and now I have to heal you too. It's even more frustrating when Perpetual Ray takes out either me or the DPS that blew the orb up on me. Dx

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And then when the dolls come out they are nowhere to be seen. Some people just like balls too much.

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Originally Posted by AzureFlare

And then when the dolls come out they are nowhere to be seen. Some people just like balls too much.

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So much this. I can't tell you how many times the DPS have left all three dolls putting their filthy stacks on me. I usually cleric stance and pick one up myself just so it doesn't run to the middle, but that's pointless if the other two are there as well... =.=

I've made it a habit to pick up and kill one of the dolls myself, because there's always some DD who is focused and won't do it. I'm pleasantly surprised whenever someone comes to help me.

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Originally Posted by cgbspender

I usually get out of it alive, as we healers have a higher Mdef, but the dps always dies. :p

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I've been wondering, are the orbs affected by magic or physical? You'd assume magical, but when i tested this with a BLM having both Manawall and Manaward up.... the buffs didn't disappear, yet i would still take the full damage of a orb. Meaning i didnt get by physical OR magical. i dont know what happened there, i found it weird.

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Originally Posted by WolfKid

I've been wondering, are the orbs affected by magic or physical? You'd assume magical, but when i tested this with a BLM having both Manawall and Manaward up.... the buffs didn't disappear, yet i would still take the full damage of a orb. Meaning i didnt get by physical OR magical. i dont know what happened there, i found it weird.

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I want to say magical, but it could be one of those weird cases where it only gets reduced by non-specific reduction. I know Foresight doesn't work for sure, but other reductions do. Might have been lag, but I suppose I'll test it out myself sometime just for sure..

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

So much this. I can't tell you how many times the DPS have left all three dolls putting their filthy stacks on me. I usually cleric stance and pick one up myself just so it doesn't run to the middle, but that's pointless if the other two are there as well... =.=

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Let the other healer take all the agro. Take one of the mobs to you. Pray the other healer is healing enough to take the mobs agro and pray you're not missing every Stone3/Broil/Malefic 2. Only way I know how to salvage it and halfway through the DPS might actually realize there are mobs around. Though doing this just reminds me how much I hate derpDPS and accuracy.

Tank in The Vault with ilvl120 gear that he glamoured to look like ilvl170 (he was a wizard!)... he was a little squishy.

Ps: Wish he hadn't turned the boss towards me just as he did his cone attack. That hurt.

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Originally Posted by Uhm

Tank in The Vault with ilvl120 gear that he glamoured to look like ilvl170... he was a little squishy.

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Dare I ask how this is possible?

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Dare I ask how this is possible?

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Well, what item level do you need to enter? He had a few ilvl130 pieces.

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Originally Posted by Uhm

Tank in The Vault with ilvl120 gear that he glamoured to look like ilvl170... he was a little squishy.

Ps: Wish he hadn't turned the boss towards me just as he did his cone attack. That hurt.

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Err. You can't glamour i120 gear to look like i170 gear though. i120 gear is for level 50 and i170 is for level 60.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Err. You can't glamour i120 gear to look like i170 gear though. i120 gear is for level 50 and i170 is for level 60.

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When I examened him and looked at his chest piece it was Ironworks Armor of Fending, but on his character it looked like Yasha Hara-ate of fending to me. He was a Lalafell so it probably looked different from my Au'Ra in the heat of the moment (even though I had my glasses on)... embarressing. I'll go hide in a corner now.

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Originally Posted by Uhm

When I examened him and looked at his chest piece it was Ironworks Armor of Fending, but on his character it looked like Yasha Hara-ate of fending to me. He was a Lalafell so it probably looked different from my Au'Ra in the heat of the moment (even though I had my glasses on)... embarressing. I'll go hide in a corner now.

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Lalas always look like shapeless potatoes anyway. Pretty hard to distinguish gear.

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Originally Posted by WolfKid

I've been wondering, are the orbs affected by magic or physical? You'd assume magical, but when i tested this with a BLM having both Manawall and Manaward up.... the buffs didn't disappear, yet i would still take the full damage of a orb. Meaning i didnt get by physical OR magical. i dont know what happened there, i found it weird.

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This is a good question to ask. I'm not too sure about the difference (if any) between a BLM and a WHM (or other mages). What I know is that I cannot take 2 orbs without cures without dying, as a bard. I can, however, take 2 as a whm (leaving me pretty low on HP but still). For the 3 orbs, I need at least one cure. I usually cast two cures, as you never can tell who is gonna hit by the boss' lazer nor kwhen.

I did EX roulette on my WHM last night and got a PLD tank who asked if they could do big pulls. I said yes, dps said yes, off we went. I did divine seal, regen, asylum, holy shit cure 2 cure 2 cure 2 E4E oh you used Hallowed? Cool JESUS, Tetragrammaton...here have a medica 2 for the extra regen tick wtf, cure 2 cure 2 shroud of saints have I forgotten how to heal??? Wtf...

Gone was the notion of tossing out supplementary dps, between that heal-hungry PLD, a monk who kept taking inexplicable collateral damage and dcing, and machinist who somehow kept losing his stoneskin. We wiped at the second boss because I don't even know why...probably all of us. Everyone kept taking so much damage. The monk stood in a puddle of poison and dc'd. He said his lag was so bad he saw me raising him while he was still alive.

I felt like the worst healer ever, but for some reason those dps gave me their comms.

Uhm... I don't see why you say that about yourself.. The cure spam suggests that PLD either was not using cooldowns, or pulled more than his body can handle - the latter is an overlooked thing. Though you could have been overhealing too and drying yourself up sooner. And like you said, everyone kept taking so much damage. If DPS ain't dodging things, you're going to be taxed more.

But DS + Regen = Cure 2
Ayslum = about 1/2 of Regen(without DS)
Medica 2(without DS) is close to Cure 1(initial cast) and about the same as a DS+Regen with its additional effect.

Do the math, the tank is being spam healed FOR FREE. You should only, in an ideal situation, cast cure 2 a few times and just ride Cure 1, till stuff wears off

And BIG SIGN that you have to heal a tank 100% of the time is when you can't make time for 1 Stone III, and even moreso if it already feels like a death is coming for the ACT of casting Holy(Holy is for mitigation, not just damage).

In conclusion; You did what any experienced healer would do in this situation and thats pull out all the stops to keep people alive.

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Originally Posted by bounddreamer

I felt like the worst healer ever, but for some reason those dps gave me their comms.

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Damn... Did he forget to activate ShO or something? As a Pld, I've done that before. Kinda embarrassing, but it's usually easy to notice because it becomes ridiculously difficult to hold hate. It was either this or he just wasn't using buffs efficiently. The Dps being pants on head stupid probably didn't help either. I don't think many Dps realize just how much strain they put on the healer by standing in stupid or even just being slow (longer fights = more Mp draws). Honestly, it sounds like one of those perfect storm moments where everything that could go wrong did go wrong.

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Originally Posted by bounddreamer

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This usually happens with undergeared or unskilled tanks, more than anything. You can really feel those big pulls in Expert Roulette when they aren't up to snuff. When the tanks are decent, even the big pulls are relatively easy and you shouldn't be spamming Cure II desperately trying to keep them alive. Unfortunately, everyone and their mother thinks they can speedrun the new zones, and more often than not it usually gets someone killed in Arboretum.

Try to weave in some Holy spells early in the pull to stun and prevent damage for a few seconds, it's really all you can do.

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Originally Posted by Februs

Damn... Did he forget to activate ShO or something? As a Pld, I've done that before. Kinda embarrassing, but it's usually easy to notice because it becomes ridiculously difficult to hold hate. It was either this or he just wasn't using buffs efficiently. The Dps being pants on head stupid probably didn't help either. I don't think many Dps realize just how much strain they put on the healer by standing in stupid or even just being slow (longer fights = more Mp draws). Honestly, it sounds like one of those perfect storm moments where everything that could go wrong did go wrong.

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I honestly forgot to check their stance...I didn't even check their gear, there wasn't much downtime and I had to keep them alive. I didn't think I was that rusty for healing!