Bard - they broke my job

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Originally Posted by Aiselia

So I was thinking...

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BotD abilities also have really low potency when landed outside of position.

From 290 down to 100. A 190 potency loss.

I think that's as absurd as the cast times behind WM. So if SE fixes the cast times, they should fix our potency loss too.

The mechanic itself I think is cool, though plenty of Drgs don't like it.

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Originally Posted by Leonus

they should fix our potency loss too.

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To be frank, I think they should remove positional requirements from everything period and just normalize the damage of the attacks to a balanced average between the two potencies.

The positional requirements are pretty much the only thing keeping me from loving Monk since I feel punished every time I try to solo something in the open world as a Monk because monsters do tend to not like me circling behind them.

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Originally Posted by pinder2009

The WM buff/EA+SW nerf translated to an about 50 dps .

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I'm parsing 930ish at i183 on dummy now over 3+ minutes. Which isn't bad, but that is with flawless use of oGCDs and stuff. It's actually rough to maintain that type of management in fights with mechanics.

In 2.0 I mainly used my bard. So far I'm 53 in 3.0 and I'm not a fan of the cast timers. It feels clunky and unnatural now. I think they should have made WM act just like the other songs.
-Remove cast timers.
-Have it drain your MP while it's in use.
-No damage penalty like Foe's.
-Will force us to be strategic with our MP to make sure we have MP to be able to play the right song when it's needed.
-Continue to gate the newer abilities behind WM and give them a slight buff.
In other words you could look at it like a WAR and it's stance dancing. But for bard it would be a dance between support and dps. We retain the mobility we all love about our bards, the ability to help out others (MP/TP regen, caster buff), and pump out more dps.

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Originally Posted by Aiselia

To be frank, I think they should remove positional requirements from everything period and just normalize the damage of the attacks to a balanced average between the two potencies.

The positional requirements are pretty much the only thing keeping me from loving Monk since I feel punished every time I try to solo something in the open world as a Monk because monsters do tend to not like me circling behind them.

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And I'm not gonna lie, that's probably one of the biggest reasons why I don't main MNK today. Playing MNK in the open world feels terrible in ways that no other job feels. Not to mention the positionals make no sense with the lore of the job...

A major issue I'm finding is.. you get used to playing with the new WM.. then all of a sudden get thrown into a lvl 50 dungeon and have to relearn how to play the old way.. if they are going to force a change so big on us.. shouldn't it be in affect at all times?

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Originally Posted by mb52139

A major issue I'm finding is.. you get used to playing with the new WM.. then all of a sudden get thrown into a lvl 50 dungeon and have to relearn how to play the old way.. if they are going to force a change so big on us.. shouldn't it be in affect at all times?

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I stopped doing high level roulette on my bard, makes me so sad...

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Originally Posted by MercureXI

Yeah because playing Bard will get me to understand basic mechanics a lot better and why you seem to fail at giving any type of valid argument here ?
I can talk about all mechanics in the game, it has nothing to do with "levelling a class to 60" ... how dense are you really ?

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You have no Bard job and yet you think you have the vaguest clue how to play it? Good god..
I have a level 51 bard and even I would not feel I have the right to weigh in on how the new abilities will affect her playstyle. Although it looks like I'm not going to like it, or play on her much until all the dust settles.

The fact remains that currently virtually all her skills are instants plus she has auto-attacks and ogcds to use in between, but with this Wanderer's Minuet, ALL that will end. :(

How about giving every job cast bars, and see how much they enjoy it.
I doubt too many people would be saying, "Suck it up. That's the way it is."

Ofc, there would be a mass unsub and exodus to other games. And before anyone chimes in, "Well, that's just not realistic," I say screw you. It's not realistic for bard bow-mage to have cast bars either. But they do, and should not.

I still only use WM for the opener, finish with IJ just before buffs drop and turn it off.