#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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Originally Posted by ThaCa

I think giving everyone "Aid" action that doesn't neccesarilly even need bind, just click on "dead" body next to them to help them for 10s and it brings them back at 1% hp and mp.

Resurrection and adjacents would still be bit better since they can be casted from range and return with bit more hp/mp (which can be tweaked).

Takes of the pressure of scraping party back up from Healers and gives wider options to develope battle content.

Then again if it doesn't get interrupted, Tanks will pick people up while face tanking everything. Might not be too bad for casual content but probably needs adjustment.

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Healers won't spend 1 GCD on a heal and you think people are gonna spend 10 seconds helping someone up, lmao.

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Originally Posted by Havenchild

And yet, this thread exists. People clearly don't know how to read between the lines. They want Healers to remain as is and not have to devote by default more resources towards dps options. People just have a really hard time accepting something that hasn't and likely won't change for years to come. At this point, whoever still plays healer, liked it for what it is. If you don't like it, play a caster instead. It's not that hard to accept the devs stance at this point.

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Oh look, another oracle who can apparently predict the future and also read the devs' minds. This "reading between the lines" is completely made up because they have never made any "stance" clear. Hell, they have recently openly admitted that they went too far with job simplification. Unless they come out and say something, all we have is speculation, so please stop treating said speculation as fact just because it fits with your opinion.

That and their minds clearly change. Remember how they told us they would never release 2 DPS in an expansion again? Yeah, about that...

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Originally Posted by PercibelTheren

That and their minds clearly change. Remember how they told us they would never release 2 DPS in an expansion again? Yeah, about that...

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Didn't they also at one point say that Paladins would never block magic attacks? Only to change that not long into Stormbloods release? Female Viera and Male Hrothgar were supposed to be the last races because both were wanted by the devs and playerbase, but they only had resources for 1 race, so they settled on 2 half-baked races, they clearly changed their mind to release the opposite sexes over the expansions. Every rework made is the devs changing their minds, every QoL change they once said was impossible is the devs changing their minds, it's fully possible for Square to change their minds on healer designs, they just need to have an open mind and some creativity to act on it.

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

Healers won't spend 1 GCD on a heal and you think people are gonna spend 10 seconds helping someone up, lmao.

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In casual content yes.

I would like game functionality to stop being limited by what people theoretically will or won't do.

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Originally Posted by gllt

I would like game functionality to stop being limited by what people theoretically will or won't do.

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This.

Stop balancing for the absolute bottom of player capability, stop removing buttons that people are too lazy to press, stop removing things that people are too lazy to engage in.

Im sorry for all the disabled players i see posting around, but no video game can survive catering to a small minority when it is at the expense of a majority.
You should expect that you will not be able to enjoy most of the game's content. That's just how it is and no one can fix it.

Im glad that you can and have enjoyed the game to the extent that you can. Later content will naturally be harder, and not exactly more of the same striking dummy difficulty.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

Why do I check this thread every so often? Well, since you know my posting history so well, you should know that I've already answered that question!

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It's hard to know if you really answered anything since you're posts are very confusing for me to read and understand. Oftentimes the flip flop positions and the inconsistency behind logics make it really hard to deciper the meaning behind them.

like this

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Originally Posted by Striker44

There's simply nothing to be "challenged" to begin with. Making things up to have a reason to challenge someone just isn't worth the time to bother with.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

However, I did specifically challenge someone in another thread to prove something they said about me and then stuck around to see what response I received - the result? Yeah, none...

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Originally Posted by Striker44

Look at how large this thread is. I'm not reasonably going to go back and try to recall what page I last posted something on just to see if someone responded. I hope you don't seriously expect people to watch every post they made into eternity on the off-chance someone eventually says something in response.

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ikr. How convenient, isn't it?

Always missed out the well-constructed disagreement, even when it's right above or below your latest posts

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Originally Posted by Striker44

This is the first thread where I specifically challenged two people to directly respond to a claim they made. After a few days, one of them is yet to be seen, and the other refused (aka couldn't). If you're wondering why I don't actively follow every single post I make to see who responds

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You reversed the cause and effect though.

The reason I quoted your post in other thread because you brought your disputes to other places. I intend to lure it to the right place. I think if you wanted to debate ""you must be bad at healing" part, you should do it here.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

I gave a logical reply to that and provided someone new to this thread with information.

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logical? That's your personal opinion, and I believe it's up for debate ;)

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Originally Posted by Striker44

Out of curiosity...should I end with a challenge? What makes you so attached to my posts that you keep coming back and replying specifically to me, attempting to track my post history, and so on? Why not just use the block feature and be done with it? See how that goes?

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Like I said, bury your head in the sand.
No, thanks. I won't block anyone because no one can hurt me online. I'm well protected by the anonymity graciously granted to me by the internet. I was just wondering what's behind the mask of a person who constantly claim disagreement as attacks and then pull out victim card. Anyway, I’ll rest my case for now Since I already got the answer I wanted out of you.

Here↓

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Originally Posted by Striker44

For what it's worth, though, most of the comments I make have no reason to follow up on. Practically everything I post is my personal opinion, and I openly describe it as such.

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Originally Posted by PercibelTheren

Oh look, another oracle who can apparently predict the future and also read the devs' minds. This "reading between the lines" is completely made up because they have never made any "stance" clear. Hell, they have recently openly admitted that they went too far with job simplification. Unless they come out and say something, all we have is speculation, so please stop treating said speculation as fact just because it fits with your opinion.

That and their minds clearly change. Remember how they told us they would never release 2 DPS in an expansion again? Yeah, about that...

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Of course nobody can predict "accurately to 100%" the future. But you can analyze the trends. This strike didn't pop up from nowhere and some healers have been writting the same old feedback for what? Years?
So if in 5-6 years(or however long people have been unhappy) and SE still hasn't budged. Well "An absence of an answer is also an answer" and people will get the hint eventually...

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

The failure point can be avoided while designing healing as an interesting role but SE is going about it in the wrong way.

Give healing potions their own cooldown separate from stat potions.

Give parties a way to resurrect healers in group content. Healers would retain the ability to resurrect any party member. Just as Dynamis is the explanation for LBs, it can be the explanation for being able to rez a healer when tanks and DPS shouldn't have that ability.

Then when the healer goes down, the healer can be brought back up right away. DPS would have their healing potion on hand to sustain them until the healer is able to resume healing. Tank mitigation continues to be their form of sustain.

If the party can get the healer up, tank and DPS don't need any powerful tools for self healing. Tanks would naturally retain their mitigation abilities. DPS would retain other utility to buff party damage or debuff the boss but would not infringe on the healer role beyond the very minor self-healing of Second Wind and Bloodbath.

The healer role can be made interesting without putting undue pressure on a party as the only guaranteed failure point in the event of death.

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Personally would go for giving Healers their own emergency buttons like tanks have, with varying levels of flavor. Let White Mage just rez themselves every once in a long while.

That said, the suggested duty action or LB style action for everyone may be easier to balance- content wise. You can have it enabled in lower end content where you don't want fights to be overly stressful for any one person and their individual skill level (or turnip level)... and then totally disable it for higher end content where it's the expectation that every party member will be fully capable of handling math problems while juggling assorted fruit and reciting Mark Antony's speech.