Yeah I'd like to know that as well.
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08-26-2015, 07:26 AMButcherboy
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08-26-2015, 07:32 AMOssomFracture does more damage than Snap punch. Especially with the Demo increase though, I don't see why you would clip Demo using this rotation. I feel like its a dps lostQuote:
Originally Posted by Hakmatic
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08-26-2015, 07:32 AMLilyth
I agree with Form Shift not being necessary anymore, it was such a hassle to spam it 3 times before every pull. Just how impractical it is to use it in random PUBs as well where you had to "predict" the pulls so you are in Coeurl Form. Now that you can safely keep GL up while still using ToD right after being fully buffed, I see no reason to do it.
Oh and the PB delay? Just walk with the tank. Not to mention the difference in DPS if you choose to ST first and then PB is negligible. -
08-26-2015, 07:47 AMHitoseijuroIts not 1 snap punch thats getting buffed its every thing before that as well. The DM would be getting 1 stack, the next sp would be getting 2 stacks and the next sp would get 3 stacks, so you have to account for that when you go snap into PB vs starting PB and starting from scratch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakmatic
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08-26-2015, 07:49 AMOssomNo you don't actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hitoseijuro
Whether you open with form shift or not, your first 3 attacks will have the same damage modifier. PB doesn't effect your damage modifier at all. Demo > Snap > Snap is Demo > Snap > Snap no matter if the first one is under the effect of Perfect balance or not. -
08-26-2015, 07:50 AMHakmaticThis is the only rotation that gets fracture in it buffed ,if you do pb-sp-sp-dm you don't get a fracture, also you are only clipping demo by 3-4 seconds in the one I posted. That's why I said, if you form shift you get a snap punch, if you don't you get a fracture. Take your pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ossom
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08-26-2015, 07:57 AMLilythThe only difference between opening with PB or FS is that with FS you get another GCD to perform under PB. That's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hitoseijuro
Since with the most recent changes you now have plenty of time to get yourself fully buffed, use ToD asap and still refresh your GL3 safely, why bother with another GCD under PB when you can move on with your normal rotation? You even get a B4B buffed fracture in the end. -
08-26-2015, 08:15 AMAllyrionYea, the clipping would be too much and an extra Snap Punch would not be worth adding in.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunnyHirose
I would use the old rotation but still Form Shift for the first Demo.
You would be one GCD ahead in this case, but that's fine. You can just use ToD under PB's effect. -
08-26-2015, 08:20 AMOssom
I don't see how this rotation beats out on.
Snap > Pb > Snap > Demo > Dragon Kick > Twin > Snap > ToD > Boot > True > Snap > Dragon Kick > Twin > Demo.
You don't clip Demo in here at all, actually it refreshes perfectly. You guys mention Demo clipping if you do Demo on GL2 But I don't see any Demo clipping at all.
Or Even
Pb > Snap > Snap > Demo > B4B > Dragon Kick > XPot > Twin Snakes > Internal Release > ToD > Elixer Field > Bootshine > Howling Fists > True Strike > Steel Peak > Snap Punch > Shoulder Tackle > Dragon Kick > Forbidden Chakra > True Strike > Fracture > Demo.
(Actually might need to gain a lot more skill speed, or push XPOT and Internal Release back one to do this.) -
08-26-2015, 08:27 AMAllyrionWell that's because you have a Snap Punch for the first rotation after PB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ossom
Your buffs (IR and BfB) wouldn't be up for that second Demolish unless you delay them.
But you want a fully buffed Demolish in the opener.
That doesn't have a clipping issue. But you're delaying your buffs and oGCDs quite a bit to compensate for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ossom