Brian from Work 2 Game is leaving FFXIV

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Originally Posted by vanaii

small indie company

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inane ramblings

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Originally Posted by hagare

inane ramblings

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Doritos and Funyuns

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Doritos and Funyuns

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Beef soft taco (supreme)

and now I'm hungry

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Beef soft taco (supreme)

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cheese and broccoli baked potato

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

And yet another interesting comment

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Sorry I usually stay out of these circlejerks but you're really just gonna ignore the blatant misrepresentation of that earlier youtube comment you perpetrated huh? Gonna hit em with the "I brought it up to cause discussion, doesn't matter" probably?

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

As far as the OP. Brian gave his three reasons. One, he wants to do family. Second, he wants to follow his passion for standup comedy, and third he likes a new mmo New World better.

As far as FFxiv taking risks, ffxiv has been around a long time. New World is brand new. The cycle is always the same and you can only do so much in an mmo before it too changes for good or bad. Everyone outgrows an mmo at some point that's played it for over a decade. I look back on my experience with older mmos that I've outgrown. I will probably outgrow ffxiv sooner rather than later, but it's okay! Hakuna Matata and all that. *sings*

I think Brian is just needing his time to soul search and follow his dreams and ideas of what he wants for himself in life. He wasn't on the top of my "go to" list for info on FFxiv news besides, but I still wish him well. Why OP has to read more into it than there actually was, I hazard to guess. Right now I'm just on the sidelines to see what FFxiv has planned next for 7.0. I'll just have to wait and see.

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Isn't it a bit goofy that he said that the community doesn't want FFXIV changes and New World's community does - and that he doesn't see that New World is actually going through a FF 1.0 all on its own? Of course they want people to engage with their game and give feedback. They want people to see that they care after such a colossal launch state. It is kind of a snare that Brian has seemingly fallen for - the lure of the nicest community alive. Only communities with nothing to lose will be willing to temper its toxicity just to get more players in the door. If your game is on top, the priority shifts to adding game features that lure in more players, not keep the ones in their home from leaving.

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Originally Posted by hagare

cheese and broccoli baked potato

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Quesadilla, + Rice and Refried Beans.
Chips and Salsa Optional.

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Originally Posted by Kazhar

It's hard to take you seriously when you continuously bring WoW and the evil elitist boogeyman in each of your post even when it is completely irrelevant to the subject. You're the walking definition of insecure toxic casual. You want everything catered to you only and afraid that people who play the game for different reasons might take that away from you.
People who have negative opinions about this game are not limited to raiders or ex-WoW players. The most infamous complainer we have here doesn't engage in raiding as far as I know.
Personally very few of my complaints are raid-related. As a raider, I'm satisfied by the game and I wouldn't play it if I wasn't. My major complaints are mostly about how lacking the story content has been since Endwalker and how they handle cosmetic content (like Hrothgar and Viera).

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Considering this was your reaction to a simple statement like "Raiders shouldnt be treated as special", I would say it say more about you than me.

Nowhere did I say that raiding should be removed yet you decided to believe that I am against raiding content in general and I only want one type of content, I like FF14 exactly because it doesnt treat raiders as special yet we frequently see threads about raiders complaining they dont get enough attention as if they deserve it lol, it is important to say that these people should be ignored just like the usual "waaah I shouldnt be forced to do X thing for Y reward and then implying that everything cool should come from raiding"

WoW's downfall came when they ignored the average player and started pandering to raidloggers at the expense of everyone else, resulting in their latest xpac that will just be raidlogging and nothing more xD
So of course I dont want SE to pay attention to elitist raider complaint threads about how they should get more content and rewards because that is how you ruin an MMOrpg.

So the tribalism will never stop in this regard

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Originally Posted by TripleARMS

Isn't it a bit goofy that he said that the community doesn't want FFXIV changes and New World's community does - and that he doesn't see that New World is actually going through a FF 1.0 all on its own? Of course they want people to engage with their game and give feedback. They want people to see that they care after such a colossal launch state. It is kind of a snare that Brian has seemingly fallen for - the lure of the nicest community alive. Only communities with nothing to lose will be willing to temper its toxicity just to get more players in the door. If your game is on top, the priority shifts to adding game features that lure in more players, not keep the ones in their home from leaving.

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or maybe he liked ffxiv and now he likes new world

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Quesadilla, + Rice and Refried Beans.
Chips and Salsa Optional.

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Beans on toast

Lol good lord, half of these comments give me hope while the other half makes me feel bad to be associated when I say I play FFXIV.

Like him or not, Brian has done A LOT of good for FFXIV and in all of his criticisms he always makes it a point to say things like "theses are my personal preferences" or "I love FFXIV but I just wish".

Hes never just gone and said FFXIV was bad.

The irony in trying to build and force a community to be nice is that it has bred about half a population of people who act like babies and hide behind virtue signaling when they themselves are just as toxic.

Why can't we just say it sucks that someone who dedicated SO MUCH of their life to a game feels like they were pushed out for multiple reasons. Isn't this game based around being for everyone? Doesn't this sound like something we should figure out or at the very least investigate and give real credence to since its possible that others probably feel that way as well?

Idk that's just my two sense.

It's not surprising he would lose enthusiasm for the game after playing so long. If you feel the game isn't for you anymore there's no reason to continue to playing as we have finite time on this earth and there's no need to waste it on things you aren't enjoying. So I'm glad he took the healthier route and is choosing to focus on a game he wants to play instead.

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Originally Posted by hagare

Beans on toast

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Refried. I dont care for Pinto Beans.

Now then....Chicken Chow Mien & Egg Rolls
With White Rice and Orange Chicken
Everything properly Proportioned.

So the content creators are finally leaving after the game's cracks are so great that they are no longer able to ignore them? What. A. Shock.
Hopefully the trend continues (like history has shown us time and time and time and time and time...) and the devs get the message. Though the RMT plea they posted was pretty funny.
"We strongly encourage players to refrain from engaging with these groups, as there would be no reason for RMT vendors to exist if players do not use their services."
They might as well said, "YOU, the player, are keeping the RMT alive... But we do like those subs...". If they followed it up by "if this continues we will began punishing the buyers." then they might have something, lol.

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Originally Posted by Ephremjlm

Like him or not, Brian has done A LOT of good for FFXIV and in all of his criticisms he always makes it a point to say things like "theses are my personal preferences" or "I love FFXIV but I just wish".

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I'll be honest, I've never heard of him before this.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Refried. I dont care for Pinto Beans.

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you disappoint me
https://awsimages.detik.net.id/commu...peg?w=700&q=90

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Originally Posted by hagare

you disappoint me
https://awsimages.detik.net.id/commu...peg?w=700&q=90

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Aww man, someone booger'd on my rice. RUDE. :/

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Originally Posted by Ralphe2449

Considering this was your reaction to a simple statement like "Raiders shouldnt be treated as special"...

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Your statement tacitly asserts that raiders are (asking to be) treated as special. Let's examine that.

For them to be asking for special treatment, they must be asking for resources to be devoted to their interests in excess of their share of player interests overall. But are they?

Raiding is still commonly the most held and highest-placed areas of content interest, even when compared to similarly expansive umbrella groups like "Combat side-content" (bundling Exploratory Missions, Aquapolis, Ulzir, Maps, Masked Carnival, etc.) or "PvP (as a whole)". Ask players what area of content, if it were removed, would most likely make them quit for good, and I doubt anything would come out ahead of raiding.

That then leaves the efficiency of providing for an average piece of raid content given what we've seen of design efficiency and the trade-offs purported over the years, and the work that must be put into a given content addition to be perceived as sufficient (additionally, when accounting also for diminishing returns as novelty decreases).

Novelty has long since been lost to the model of 8-man normal trials, normal raids, extreme trials, and Savage raids; there's no newness there propping it up. By now, we've seen that decline, too, (or, increased polish required for favorable perception) for additions like Diadem -> Eureka -> Bozja, despite positive reiteration. The next Deep Dungeon, if any, will likewise almost certainly be judged harsher than PotD or HoH were in their time.

Can we honestly say, then, that a new DD, a new EM, a new GS game, a new set of Masked Carnival encounters (less often completed than Ultimate, iirc) would be a more worthwhile addition than maintaining the earlier content pace on Extreme Trials or Ultimates, given the relative size of those whose main interest is raiding, more so than DD, EMs, GS minigames, or BLU?

And if not, just how are the raiders being "treated as special," let alone asking to be?

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I've become less and less a fan of XIV raids over the years --the scripted-ness of it wears on me-- but there seems little denying that the investment towards that area of the game is sound, even if I'd like the particular ways they add to it to be a bit more inventive. Raiders don't appear to be treated as special, but instead only as taking on the developer hours commensurate to the size of that playerbase interest and the and system impact necessary for that area to function.

That doing Battle-leves or Alliance Raids alone doesn't net you Savage gear is no fault of raiders; rather, there is simply no decent use for that gear outside of raiding and, yes, for raiding to provide a sense of progression that will ultimately make it more accessible over time (akin to a natural catchup system) without removing all such incentive from it mid-tier, there does have to be some gap. It all gets leveled out at the end of each tier anyways. I'll be nowhere near BiS as I've little time or patience to PuG Savage, and that is fine; the most it could do anyways would be to make what content I'm doing of late yet more trivial.

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Originally Posted by hagare

you disappoint me
https://awsimages.detik.net.id/commu...peg?w=700&q=90

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Weak smh

/10chars

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Aww man, someone booger'd on my rice. RUDE. :/

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that's the caramel sauce

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Originally Posted by vanaii

that's the caramel sauce

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Caramel and White Rice?
Huh, paint me curious.

I do not watch is content, however I wish him luck with whatever he wants to do on his life and see him on the next mmo of FF.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Caramel and White Rice?
Huh, paint me curious.

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I was actually in the same boat. Sweet rice is one of those fine lines to walk. Terrible sweetened rice will make you avoid rice for a month. lol

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Caramel and White Rice?
Huh, paint me curious.

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you want sweet rice?
I gotchu
https://i0.wp.com/mijnreiservaring.n...80%2C675&ssl=1

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Originally Posted by hagare

you want sweet rice?
I gotchu

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Now that actually looks really appetizing.

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

Asmongold commented this video. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbVHW5NWpCA





Cheers

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Interesting he should pop up with his almighty opinion since his interest in FFXIV as a whole seems minimal of late.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Interesting he should pop up with his almighty opinion since his interest in FFXIV as a whole seems minimal of late.

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So? What are we going to start hating people from forming opinions about the issue? You do realize what Asmon even said about the topic was actually positive?

well another dumpster fire going no where very fast.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

So? What are we going to start hating people from forming opinions about the issue? You do realize what Asmon even said about the topic was actually positive?

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Yes - and to be clear, I wasn't particularly being negative/"hating" - just saying that it's somewhat interesting that he popped up to comment on this when his overall interest in the game has been minimal lately.

However I maintain the 'almighty opinion' aspect of my comment, as there are some who take his word/opinion for gospel.

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

Sad to him go but has a life he has to do which is important. Also he has discussed that the community has changed over the years and doesn't feel the same anymore. I been in FFXIV for 8 years and it has changed over the years. Toxic positivity has been rising, constructive criticism is booed off.

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It's called getting older. When you're in high school most, if not all, of your friends play video games regularly. Once you hit college, many of them stop. Once they graduate college and get jobs, even more stop. Once they get married, even more stop. Once they have kids, even more stop. Ultimately there are far fewer players from your generation who are left to play with you. Naturally the community is going to feel different when the majority of the players don't like the same music you do, didn't watch the same movies you did, and don't face the same problems you do.

You can huff the copium and chalk the changes up to made up concepts like "toxic positivity," but the fact is that the internet has brought many elements of society that previously had no contact with each other together. The "dirty jokes" and the disparaging remarks that used to seem funny to your buddies are not as funny when they're at the expense of people whose company you now regularly enjoy. I, for one, prefer "toxic positivity" to the mean-spirited community that I grew up in and to the elitist jerks who design WoW. I don't have to be mad at my fellow players all the time to enjoy my video games.

The fact is that Brian finally acquired the perspective to recognize that there is far more to life than playing video games. Good for him. Someday his kids will be older, and he'll find himself with free time again. He even explicitly said that when that happens he'll likely come back. Most of us will likely have moved on to bigger and better things by then, but I'm sure that many of us will still be around to welcome him back with open arms.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Interesting he should pop up with his almighty opinion since his interest in FFXIV as a whole seems minimal of late.

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His interest is still relatively high. But he also mentioned, that the stream chat becomes very exhausting for him when he plays FFIV. So he does not play it. :)



Cheers

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Originally Posted by Ronduwil

The fact is that Brian finally acquired the perspective to recognize that there is far more to life than playing video games. Good for him. Someday his kids will be older, and he'll find himself with free time again. He even explicitly said that when that happens he'll likely come back. Most of us will likely have moved on to bigger and better things by then, but I'm sure that many of us will still be around to welcome him back with open arms.

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This seems like a backwards take on things because he says he is still going to be playing MMOs regularly, just not this one.

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Originally Posted by Ronduwil

It's called getting older. When you're in high school most, if not all, of your friends play video games regularly. Once you hit college, many of them stop. Once they graduate college and get jobs, even more stop. Once they get married, even more stop. Once they have kids, even more stop. Ultimately there are far fewer players from your generation who are left to play with you. Naturally the community is going to feel different when the majority of the players don't like the same music you do, didn't watch the same movies you did, and don't face the same problems you do.

You can huff the copium and chalk the changes up to made up concepts like "toxic positivity," but the fact is that the internet has brought many elements of society that previously had no contact with each other together. The "dirty jokes" and the disparaging remarks that used to seem funny to your buddies are not as funny when they're at the expense of people whose company you now regularly enjoy. I, for one, prefer "toxic positivity" to the mean-spirited community that I grew up in and to the elitist jerks who design WoW. I don't have to be mad at my fellow players all the time to enjoy my video games.

The fact is that Brian finally acquired the perspective to recognize that there is far more to life than playing video games. Good for him. Someday his kids will be older, and he'll find himself with free time again. He even explicitly said that when that happens he'll likely come back. Most of us will likely have moved on to bigger and better things by then, but I'm sure that many of us will still be around to welcome him back with open arms.

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Well, the alternative is this.....:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...1878000314.jpg

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

Sad to him go but has a life he has to do which is important. Also he has discussed that the community has changed over the years and doesn't feel the same anymore. I been in FFXIV for 8 years and it has changed over the years. Toxic positivity has been rising, constructive criticism is booed off.

There is times I have thought of quitting FFXIV myself. I feel like content has been lackluster for a while and the things people want changed just doesn't happen. If the rate the game has been going will this really last 10 more years? IDK I hope it does but also the game itself has been feeling stagnant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eh8...el=GingerPrime
I posted his vid if anyone wants to see it

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Clickbait troll leaves the game. I don't care and I guarantee you when 7.0 hype starts he will magically have interest again.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

And yet another interesting comment:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...826&height=609

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This is honestly really sad.

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

This is honestly really sad.

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The dude has 5 kids and has other interests and obligations, including doing Stand-Up
Even if people wernt toxic, I think he would have eventually left the game anyway.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

Clickbait troll leaves the game. I don't care and I guarantee you when 7.0 hype starts he will magically have interest again.

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Well in his video he did mentions if 7.0 s interesting then he might return. Soo i wont say say it was click bait

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

The dude has 5 kids and has other interests and obligations, including doing Stand-Up
Even if people wernt toxic, I think he would have eventually left the game anyway.

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You should see the other videos when he was talking about 14 on how he was tired of trading on egg shells. I think they are deleted/ private right now

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Originally Posted by george357

well another dumpster fire going no where very fast.

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Stick around...winter is coming and this dumpster fire is going to be real inviting.

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

This is honestly really sad.

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Pretty sure he wasn't being serious.