Petition for more wards / instanced housing

So freaking signed.

I woke up at 4AM. My FC had saved the money for a large, I was even training last night to run from the ferry to the plot, and had someone timing me to see how fast I could get there.

I log in RIGHT when the patch comes up, and get a lobby error that crashes the client. Log in all over again. By that time, ALL mansions everywhere were gone.

Frankly, this is unacceptable from a game and a company with the reputation that they have. Un-frigging-believable.

FIX THIS GARBAGE

The way this game handles housing is so bad. I understand that Yoshi P wants it to feel special, but there's a reason people moved away from that design philosophy.

In other news, I prefer the idea of just adding more wards (maybe even having a dynamic system, so wards are added based on demand), since the idea of having neighbors and a community in the area is quite cool.

It's a joke. Shirogane on Odin was gone in like 5 minutes. If you were stuck in queue for too long or the game crashed then you didn't get anything. Just a silly and unfair system.

Tried to get a house for our FC when the servers went online. Was quite glad to find after the long queues that every single plot was taken.
This issue really needs to be addressed, either by adding enough wards, or some other way.

Adding a few more wards to something THIS in demand wouldn't hurt. The server is quite literally stomping its feet for additional housing at this point.

Signed. Please give us a better housing system

signed im so damn mad that all of shirogane housing is sold in zodiark

/Signed

Something needs to be done. I didn't even bother trying to log in at 3am because I knew it was going to be hopeless. I am happy for those who genuinely got their homes and plan to actually use them but I am also pissed at those who bought multiple plots just to resell later on for ridiculous amounts of gil and those who used any type of hack program to get to plots first. All players should have an opportunity to own their own house. Having FC private chambers and apartments are not a subsitution to owning your own house. You're just stuck with this very tiny room with no ability to decorate outside. It's discouraging.

Canceled my sub today (I know, queue the tiny violins, lol).

Really, though, I came back from old EQ because of this patch & the chance at housing. All housing gone in seconds. So why, exactly, would I continue the sub?

And just consider - freaking EVERQUEST, a game that's been out since 1999, handles housing better than this, AND has wards. Really sad to see SE failing so badly on this. :/

Signed.

This is just ridiculous. Lobby errors and queues, and all houses sold out within 5 minutes. This is really unacceptable.

/signed this system is designed for 99% of people to lose. there is absolutely no reason to gate content like fc workshops and gardening behind something if it's going to be artificially limited to this extreme.

/signed !!!its sad when people stay up all night to get a house for their FC and in under 10 minutes they are all bought by alts and bots while people are still queued to even get in the game

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I just want a home and a garden, Square Enix T_T

I strongly recommend signing this. Square Enix want this sort of communication. They even encourage it. Why? Devs want to give us what we want but they have to show proof of demand.
Probably to upper management, and get approval, resource and funding.

According to https://ffxivcensus.com/ most servers have about 20,000 players. There are 2880 houses per server. That means only about 14% of each server can own a housing plot. Be it an FC group or an individual.
Sure enough, housing plots are a luxury item but demand is so high, that more wards are really needed.

Until then, the good news is since 4.1 there are now 21,600 instanced apartments per server. One for everyone.

Petition for more wards?

Signed

/SIGNED
I'll gladly put my name to this.

The state of housing is currently just ...bad, to say the least. Apparently SE doesn't know the size of the player base from their OWN census data. Housing has only grown into a bigger problem since it was released and it needs an improvement. Instead of it being ignored and resources being redirected to giving us things like Bard's "perform" as an example (not saying that shouldn't be added and won't be enjoyed by people), but they need to look at the bigger picture... as of writing this, I see 26 pages of people asking for housing, not bard's literally playing music.. enough said.
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Signed. Strongly considering cancelling additional retainers and unsubbing 2 accounts over this.

Signed- housing and plots for FCs and others.

I'll sign too, if only in the hopes that when Ishgard housing is a thing, I can finally get a house.

Signed
-It'd be nice to have instanced houses that you could upgrade eventually.
-Maybe having all plots be the same size and be able to upgrade them by adding underground floors, still looking the same on the outside.
-Maybe even having made it so Free Companies could get a grasp on them first and then allow players to get theirs at a later date.

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Originally Posted by Killjoy

Signed. Strongly considering cancelling additional retainers and unsubbing 2 accounts over this.

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I personally pay for my wife, my son, and my own accounts, She has 5 retainers I have 2. That is nearly 50 USD a month. This housing is ridiculous, I eagerly waited until launch to try to get in, and was already 809 in line. By 5 minutes EVERY house had been bought for every ward in the game on Marboro. After last night I'm pretty strongly standing with wanting to unsub and get my friends to do so as well (we play other games but only play 14 together). Yoshi-P and team... WE BEG OF YOU! PLEASE FIX THIS ARCHAIC SYSTEM!!

Edit PS: After going through the FF14 reddit thread, I'm convinced that a large majority of players who purchased homes did it with newly formed free companies since the leveling up process for FC's is so easy. Not to mention only 3 people to start one??..

/signed

Here's to hoping that something actually happens...

/SIGNED

My bf and I logged in at the same time. He got right in while I was stuck with a 1136 queue length. He logged in and got a beach front property while watching everything get bought. I finally got in long enough to see the last Shirogane plot purchased. That was about 11 minutes (Excalibur).

/signed

5 minutes after servers were up and EVERY HOUSE was gone on Zodiark...

I really don't think SE even cares enough to read this stuff. I agree with everything I've read in this thread so far, and I'll type out /signed for the token gesture, but I don't think it will help.

This is the worst housing system I've ever seen in a game; I say that loving many of the concepts, but the execution is so bad it makes housing in FF14 an item on a cons list not to choose this game over another. It's such an easy problem to solve, and yet, somehow, SE hasn't been able(willing) to fix it.

/signed

Jup, too many players for the existing slots and an apartement is not the same...

/signed

In all honesty, they don't care.

Signed. For all the good it will do.

Signed

Also PLEASE, some plot reserved for FC housing.

SIGNED

I would definitely like to see this be a thing. I get why additional wards are a problem, and why the developers wanted to set up the community aspect. However, that doesn't change the fact that a lot of folks got royally screwed over this morning because everyone, literally everyone, was logging in at the same time. I got lucky, but several of my FC didn't, and I feel really badly for them.

Personally, I'm all in favor of the instanced housing idea. You could easily set those up in each of the cities (where we have most of our ward npcs already anyway) and make it very much like the apartments you already have. Maybe make it a plot that starts out small, but through quests or investment you build up your city house and garden. You would have the option to allow friends to come by and visit (like they already do), and you could even keep the current wards.

You could make those (and future ones) sort of like country estates vs. the city ones. And as an incentive you could make the city houses maybe a bit more expensive than a small (say 4,000,000), and able to be built up to the equivalent of something a bit smaller than a medium. that would leave the small ward houses enticing for folks with a little less gil, and the medium and large ones enticing for folks who want more room. But at the same time everyone would be guaranteed the option of getting a house.

Signed.
I managed to login exactly as the serves got up but couldn't connect to datacenter, and that promptly booted me out of the game and I had to pass launcher check, login, connection to datacenter and a queue of 800...

/Signed

I stayed up all night so that i could get on the second that the servers came up..... My launcher crashed. Needles to say that 5 minute delay was enough for every house in Balmung to be snatched up. When it takes FIVE MINUTES for the highlight of a patch to become unavailable there is a problem. I doubt anything will get done about this but it makes me feel better lol

/signed

And cancelled my subscription.
And to all who claims that this isn't a valid reason to do so: please understand the value of your money. We all are customers and should have the opportunity to get our money's worth IN A DECENT AND SENSIBLE WAY. Yes the game is "much more than that" and that friendships made along the way are important, but it still doesn't right a wrong and all you are doing is belittling an experience many truly wanted while letting a company treat people less than they deserve as customers and human beings.

i signed above

People need to get enough pr going with youtube videos and unsubing to get there attention, because if they don't think they are doing anything wrong then yes they won't care. Bad press and a lose of players will speak way louder.

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Originally Posted by Kytrin

... I get why additional wards are a problem, ...

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Really? Because I don't. Technical issues? For a triple A title from a triple A developer generating millions of income a month?

/signed

Personally don't think it's considered "fair chance" when servers couldn't handle the amount of people coming in with the 5002 errors, that happened in 3.3 as well, and unresponsive login buttons. It was just luck based in the end and the ones who didn't get a house were unlucky.

I think SE cared enough to add more subdivions, ward 9 - 12 in 3.3, and Shirogane in 4.1. The problem with it is the way they designed houses taking up a large toll on servers that Yoshida explained, stating they had to constantly make backup of the housing areas with all the individual furnishings in case of a rollback.

I wish they had handled this in a better way by improving the way housing is programmed, be it instanced or what have you not. 720 houses is in no way enough to accomodate a populated server sufficiently, especially when a Japanese theme in a Japanese game appeals to many people.

Hopefully the dev team will consider Ishgard housing or a housing expansion again with more wards in all currently existing housing areas in future update.

Agreed. Signed.

SE... seriously... this is a pay to play game - make all content obtainable... EVEN housing!!! And, don't think for a second the apartments are comparable to having a house... it's not, and it's insulting!!!!

/signed
i am rly sad! In 5 mins on "Raganrok" all plots sold out.
I want so much a House Q_Q

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Originally Posted by DravlinKuraiyoru

Really? Because I don't. Technical issues? For a triple A title from a triple A developer generating millions of income a month?

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My understanding is there are infrastructure problems limiting the wards. And ones that simply purchasing new servers won't fix. The last I heard it was an issue of literally where they would put the servers in question should they get them. Admittedly, that was a while ago, but I doubt anything's changed since then. And even if it has, you still have to get the CIO to sign off on dropping several hundred thousand dollars on equipment. Good luck doing that when all they're looking at is their bottom line.

/Signed !
Now, i just hope SE will see that.

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Originally Posted by tSparkz

Agreed. Signed.

SE... seriously... this is a pay to play game - make all content obtainable... EVEN housing!!! And, don't think for a second the apartments are comparable to having a house... it's not, and it's insulting!!!!

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You are absolutely right. Apartments are nothing but non-glorified FC rooms with an extra 200K Gil tacked on because players had the audacity to make the devs deviate from their rose-tinted view of "What an MMO community should be like".

Also...

//SIGNED, SIGNED SO FUCKING HARD IT AIN'T EVEN FUNNY.