Game is ruined (FFXIV 2.0)

If your game flopped it is a great idea to copy features from the people ahead of you. I don't know anyone who wouldn't do this with their business. I agree somewhat with the OP, that it feels cheapened that they are using features found in many MMO games out there compared to original ideas for things. As for me I am looking forward to the graphics engine and map redesign. That is something I feel is very original with SE and art design. Not a fan of Auto Attack, ! Fetch quests, Dungeon(Raid) finders. I do enjoy FF stories and creatures so I don't think the game will be ruined by adding these features, just not my ideal game.

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OP clearly hasn't looked at the roadmap and new artwork/screens.

WoW my furry kitty butt.

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Originally Posted by Crevox

FFXIV was good because it was UNIQUE.

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Well, the problem here is that barely anyone is playing the game even though it's free. Imagine if WoW went entirely free tomorrow?

Square is a corporation looking to sell a product. The current marketing plan failed and they've admitted this multiple times over the last year. Thus, they will take a new direction. Really, it's not like the game is a big success and they're remaking it to try and make a bigger success. The game failed at astronomical proportions and "MMO failure at launch" and "FFXIV" have become synonymous. Luckily for them, Final Fantasy is a big brand name and they have the PS3 release up their sleeve. If they didn't have both of those cards, they would have pulled the plug on the game months ago.

"FFXIV greatly damaged the Final Fantasy brand name", straight out of the president's mouth. While you may find it "good", you are an insignificant minority given the fact the president of the company that released the game just said it's not only bad, but it actually damaged the reputation of the series that it's part of. Ouch.

Besides, everything "Unique" about FFXIV was/is just half-assed and poorly planned. The fact that they have to scrap the entire game just to put in a party search function is proof of it.

Market wards aren't "unique", they are an auction house with a middle man and no price history. Leves aren't "unique", they are nothing but daily quests with pointless timers and in limited number. The armory system isn't "unique", it's just the job system of FFXI based on changing your weapon rather than finding a moogle to change your job for you.

There really is nothing unique about any of that. And that's the core of the "uniqueness" of the game. Sure, you can equip skills from other classes, but that forces you to level other classes at the same time. In other words, it's like the sub-job system of FFXI without the flexibility of having to level one of the "basic jobs" to level 30 that normally end up as sub-jobs anyway (Warrior for instance, needed for a subjob by every PLD and DD, at least back when I played the game).

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I don't like the current state of affairs

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Very few do. That's why they're doing exactly this.

OP: What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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WoW is an Ultima Online clone. They have a login screen, armor, enemies, grass and trees.

How...how is any of the update stuff wow-like?

hah love this kind of posts makes me laugh :)

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Originally Posted by Crevox

o much of the stuff they talk about (dungeon finder, achievements, etc) are just... sigh...

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You do know this game already this game already has an achievement system, don't you? They are currently only available for you to view on your Lodestone home page.

Derp? OP? Derp derp? Derp derp derp? Herp?

Learn to forget FFXI and accept the fact FFXIV is following the trend of current MMORPG in 2012+

At least I still like SE's unique art design & music & communication

I like how people liked the 2nd and 3rd posts lol, there's a lot of closet haters lol

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Originally Posted by Alerith

OP: What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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WoW is an Ultima Online clone. They have a login screen, armor, enemies, grass and trees.

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LMAO! Ale i love you xD

isn't wow actually ffxi clone, didn't ffxi came out 2002 and wow 2 years later or something like that?

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Originally Posted by Soralis

isn't wow actually ffxi clone, didn't ffxi came out 2002 and wow 2 years later or something like that?

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Didn't you know? Everything is a WoW clone. WoW was the first MMO ever. WoW is the Chuck Norris of MMOs. All good things come from WoW. All bad things come from WoW.

i can't wait to be an orc in 2.0!

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Originally Posted by Rhianu

I dunno, I guess we'll see. But if Yoshi-P understands the MMO market in its current state (and his actions thus far have demonstrated that he does), he should know that old-school style grinding simply isn't what most people want in a modern MMO.

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Job progression won't be xp-based. Jobs will start off at level 30 (when they can be unlocked) and will progress through quests to unlock new skills/abilities, etc.

Classes will still progress through leveling, as we do now.

OP is fail, the only thing your complaining about are FEATURES.
PVP is a feature, battlegrounds is CONTENT
Party search from 11 is a FEATURE, xp parties are content.
Every feature from every MMO should be ported into ffxiv for convienence (except maybe addons that do jobs for people)
Massive PVE is a feature, Dynamis is CONTENT.
Get your freaking head right man, your practically saying you won't play final fantasy 10 just because it has a story like final fantasy 9 did. ITS A FREAKING FEATURE JEEZUS!
THIS IS A GOOD THING.


There is a big difference between a game FEATURE and game CONTENT. FF is making hard challenges and more epic battles all the time, granted we have no NM's in the game that would compare to absolute virtue pre 75+ patch yet but they will get there with the difficulty levels. Although right now I will agree this game needs WAY more status dependancy, as in without major buffs and debuffs active at the same time your going down....... right now most of the stuff can be killed without debuffing....and without buffing. *I think its time we got some haste dont u?" and an increase in mob difficulty.......

But for c sakes...... increase the time lasted on some of these buffs debuffs, they are so short mages almost dont even like casting them , its tedious at this stage, not strategically engaging.

So let's say the OP is correct in that 2.0 is going to be a wow ripoff. Wouldn't I be better off playing WoW or maybe SWTOR instead? Or maybe rift?