Just like FFXI, make all Artifact armor wearable by all classes

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

Damage numbers =/= job identity. It's neither weak nor unreasonable. It's a different perspective. We don't need more homogenisation.

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Wrong thread? This is about glamour, not job kits.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

I don't want WARs wearing BLM clothing. Bikini WARs are bad enough.

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At this point there is no excuse not to... job identity is now limited mostly to the weapon.

I can wear plate armor as a dancer... the job that is usually scantily clad.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

Wrong thread? This is about glamour, not job kits.

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Homogenisation can encompass more than just abilities. C'mon.

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Originally Posted by SillyCrow

At this point there is no excuse not to... job identity is now limited mostly to the weapon.

I can wear plate armor as a dancer... the job that is usually scantily clad.

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All the more reason to restrict, AF. You have enough freedom already in that regard, as you said.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

All the more reason to restrict, AF. You have enough freedom already in that regard, as you said.

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Nah man, the point is that SE is being hypocrite about job identity so they may as well just let people wear what they want. They opened Pandora's box so they should just let everyone wear what they want. I'm not even sure why it's a debate.

The job identity does absolutely not matter in the sense that all actions requiring targeting of a specific job can be done in the party/alliance list with their designated icon.

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Originally Posted by SillyCrow

Nah man, the point is that SE is being hypocrite about job identity so they may as well just let people wear what they want. They opened Pandora's box so they should just let everyone wear what they want. I'm not even sure why it's a debate.

The job identity does absolutely not matter in the sense that all actions requiring targeting of a specific job can be done in the party/alliance list with their designated icon.

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If you don't care, fine. But that doesn't have to be true for everyone. Yes, it does matter to others. You have enough freedom already.

I care significantly more for players to be able to customize the character the way they want to using the resources already created in the game than I do for the mild inconvenience someone might have seeing a random person they don't know run by wearing SCH's level 60 artifact gloves on a PLD, assuming that player would even be able to identify that those were artifact gloves.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

I care significantly more for players to be able to customize the character the way they want to using the resources already created in the game than I do for the mild inconvenience someone might have seeing a random person they don't know run by wearing SCH's level 60 artifact gloves on a PLD, assuming that player would even be able to identify that those were artifact gloves.

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Good for you. I don't want to see WARs who wear Vivi hats. Neither of us is wrong. But I think some boundaries are acceptable. You can live without the Vivi hat as WAR.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

Good for you. I don't want to see WARs who wear Vivi hats. Neither of us is wrong. But I think some boundaries are acceptable. You can live without the Vivi hat as WAR.

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They quite literally already can though. There are already steepled hats that are equipable by all classes.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

If you don't care, fine. But that doesn't have to be true for everyone. Yes, it does matter to others. You have enough freedom already.

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Exactly what I've been saying. Love the person you responded to's "slippery slope" of letting people use some glamours, so must open the floodgates to EVERYTHING.

This game always had restrictions on glamours, and for various reasons.

Some gear is race-specific.
Some gear is gender-specific.
Some gear is job-specific.
Some gear is armor weight class specific.
Some gear is grand-company specific.

They made some concessions here and there but they can still draw the line where they want. And of course, people can still seek out the things they can't wear whenever and wherever they want and make threads like this *shrug*.