So what is a Hrothgar?

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

The lore stresses how incredibly rare male Viera are, far moreso than miqote, and Yoshi's answer was to read the lore.

You think TWO full races is the more likely reality?

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The lore also stresses that all male Viera serve as the border guards and the forest rangers for Viera territory. No exceptions and they all swear an oath not to let any evil encroach on that territory. We also know from the last Fan Fest that we are heading into Ra'Tika Greatwood, which the developers all but confirmed was Viera territory. And we know from the trailers, not just the main one but the location trailers as well, the Scions are present when one of the Greatwood villages gets the crap kicked out of it; probably by the Imperial Garlean Army units gunning for us. You want to talk lore? It would be lore-breaking in the extreme not to run into any hostile male Viera NPCs if we are responsible for bringing Garlean troops into their homeland and said troops targeting a Viera village.

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Originally Posted by Karl0217

The lore also stresses that all male Viera serve as the border guards and the forest rangers for Viera territory. No exceptions and they all swear an oath not to let any evil encroach on that territory. We also know from the last Fan Fest that we are heading into Ra'Tika Greatwood, which the developers all but confirmed was Viera territory. And we know from the trailers, not just the main one but the location trailers as well, the Scions are present when one of the Greatwood villages gets the crap kicked out of it; probably by the Imperial Garlean Army units gunning for us. You want to talk lore? It would be lore-breaking in the extreme not to run into any hostile male Viera NPCs if we are responsible for bringing Garlean troops into their homeland and said troops targeting a Viera village.

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The lore states that no non-Viera have ever spotted a male Viera.
It's be incredibly lore-breaking if the NPC is talking to a male Viera as he says that.

We don't know what the Rak'tika Greatwood is in relation to the Viera as a race. The current lore only mentions Golmore. It could be a fringe settlement of Viera completely unconnected to those of Golmore.

I swear to the twelve if one more person mentions gender-locked viera in this HROTHGAR THREAD....

Take it to the gender-locking thread. You have your own thread, USE IT!

Shame there are no images of the race or at least I haven't seen them. And that appears it's going to be a surprise for many of us. Seems most of everything else was spoiled in advance anyway although it didn't lessen my excitement when i learned of our new race/s. I was personally disappointed we didn't' get a new race for Heavensward and can't wait for the benchmark to play with the new ones.

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Originally Posted by Skeith9

I swear to the twelve if one more person mentions gender-locked viera in this HROTHGAR THREAD....

Take it to the gender-locking thread. You have your own thread, USE IT!

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My point was that they could be inherently linked. We don't know enough about them to rule out the possibility that Hrothgar could effectively be our male Viera counterparts.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

The lore states that no non-Viera have ever spotted a male Viera.
It's be incredibly lore-breaking if the NPC is talking to a male Viera as he says that.

We don't know what the Rak'tika Greatwood is in relation to the Viera as a race. The current lore only mentions Golmore. It could be a fringe settlement of Viera completely unconnected to those of Golmore.

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About as lore-breaking as Yugiri claiming she is hiding her face to not freak out the people in U'ldah at the sight of an Au Ra even if the PC is an Au Ra and there are a dozen other Au Ra's in the vicinity of the tavern? Also, he says no non-Viera has spotted a male Viera and lived to tell the tale; which is a bit different in context.

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Originally Posted by Skeith9

I swear to the twelve if one more person mentions gender-locked viera in this HROTHGAR THREAD....

Take it to the gender-locking thread. You have your own thread, USE IT!

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Well, they are also talking about the Hrothgar in the Viera threads too. The subjects kind of overlap.

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Originally Posted by Karl0217

About as lore-breaking as Yugiri claiming she is hiding her face to not freak out the people in U'ldah at the sight of an Au Ra even if the PC is an Au Ra and there are a dozen other Au Ra's in the vicinity of the tavern? Also, he says no non-Viera has spotted a male Viera and lived to tell the tale; which is a bit different in context.

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Or the fact that all the NPC's basically treat any Xaela PC as a non-entity in the Steppes. I remember being pretty disappointed that my character's race at the time basically mattered not one iota back then, but it's pretty par for the course with this game.

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Originally Posted by Enla

Or the fact that all the NPC's basically treat any Xaela PC as a non-entity in the Steppes. I remember being pretty disappointed that my character's race at the time basically mattered not one iota back then, but it's pretty par for the course with this game.

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It matter's a lot more in the French localization. That's how we even found out about hrothgar. I kinda want to go play a scary fem Hrothgar in French just to get NPCs reactions. Buuut I don't speak French.

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Originally Posted by Karl0217

Well, they are also talking about the Hrothgar in the Viera threads too. The subjects kind of overlap.

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I don't care, that's the gender-locking thread, this is the hrothgar thread. People are less likely to come here to talk and hype about Hrothgar if half of it is about male viera complaints.

Overlap? You can talk about choco cake in the choco thread but don't talk about choco bananas in the cake thread!

You can easily explain away mass male Viera / Miqote lore wise by just saying, "oh look, a calamity has cause a disturbance in the aether which is causing more and more male mi'qote and viera to be born... easy...

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Originally Posted by Skeith9

It matter's a lot more in the French localization. That's how we even found out about hrothgar. I kinda want to go play a scary fem Hrothgar in French just to get NPCs reactions. Buuut I don't speak French.



I don't care, that's the gender-locking thread, this is the hrothgar thread. People are less likely to come here to talk and hype about Hrothgar if half of it is about male viera complaints.

Overlap? You can talk about choco cake in the choco thread but don't talk about choco bananas in the cake thread!

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This is like saying you can't talk about brexit in the EU thread, or about the EU in the brexit thread. (Im not bringing politics into this, its an example)

Until we know more about them, we cant say they're not related.
Maybe dont make a thread with such a narrow topic of discussion when dealing with such vague subject matter. Or all you'll be doing is shutting down discussion constantly, like this.

We're at the very beginning of theory crafting and guesswork at this stage, and some theories are inevitably going to feature overlap.