Tanks using ilv270 STR acessories

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Originally Posted by Driavna

How to "fix" this (if we really need to do it anyway):

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Or very simply go back to the tank damage calculation from before SB.

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Originally Posted by RegnumMagik

You don't pay my sub

Vit scaling or bust

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Until they give us back VIT damage scaling expect this.

Also it doesn't help the fact that Tenacity is pure garbage, so I rather keep my slaying 270 accessories.

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Originally Posted by Driavna

How to "fix" this (if we really need to do it anyway):

- Remove awareness.

- Add defense as a stat instead of tenacity.

- You need a minimum amount of defense to be immune to criticals hits and crushing blows.

- No enough defense and the tank is one shooted by a crushing blow from a boss.

- Put VIT in every accessory and add STR to fending.

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worst idea ever , even wow removed defense , and we for sure dont need it

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Originally Posted by akaneakki

I healed susano ex for the first time last night where the WAR used the ilvl 270 str rings. He was a breeze to heal compare to the full vit PLD's in tank stance, makes me wonder why.

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I had the opposite experience happen in PF Susano EX. Warrior had 40k HP and if he wasn't always completely topped off he would mostly likely die the next big hit. The big hit was coming in around 35k HP. This isn't a big deal the first part of the fight other than having to baby sit the tank, but would have been an issue on the last phase with all the other dmg going around. This was not a farm group (no clears) so healing requirement was greater due to gear and occasional missed mechanics. Never even had to stress this with other tanks with normal HP.

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Originally Posted by Klongol

To you and others it may not feel entertaining, but is that due to an actual preference? I think it's actually just years of ingrained DPS tank nonsense / META that the Tank community is being pulled away from kicking and screaming.

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I'm one of the few here that would agree with you pretty much 100%

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Originally Posted by Klongol

These are all factors people are leaving out of the equation. Encounters are a group effort, not just the Tank's.

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But I wouldn't go that far.. There are rarely factors left out of the equation around here.. Lol

I have absolutely zero issues with threat tanking everything in the game currently in full vit gear. That said, when raid time comes and I trust my healers more, the ONLY thing that matters is having enough HP to survive the tank buster, period. Any additional dps you can squeeze out of losing whatever's left over just means that you're doing the fight faster and making things easier for everyone involved. Will they lock str accessories before the raid? Maybe. And I hope they do. But until then, str accessories will be mandatory for savage raiders unless the encounter has a mechanic that hits you for 60k through invuln

ANYTHING at this point that takes ANY LITTLE THING away from tanks, no matter what it is, is gonna get a big NO from me, on account of there being so few tanks already, and queue times being horrendously long and becoming longer, that any nerf is going to hurt the entire playerbase much more than it benefits a few narrow-minded traditionalists who rather see tanks be blocks of stone swaffling you with a foam bat.

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Originally Posted by Driavna

How to "fix" this (if we really need to do it anyway):

- Remove awareness.

- Add defense as a stat instead of tenacity.

- You need a minimum amount of defense to be immune to criticals hits and crushing blows.

- No enough defense and the tank is one shooted by a crushing blow from a boss.

- Put VIT in every accessory and add STR to fending.

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This end up being pointless since they either would have to set it high enough we couldn't even queue into content below a certain threshold or it's so low, it's wholly irrelevant. Keep in mind, the first few weeks of Savage, we're under the minimum ilvl.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

This end up being pointless since they either would have to set it high enough we couldn't even queue into content below a certain threshold or it's so low, it's wholly irrelevant. Keep in mind, the first few weeks of Savage, we're under the minimum ilvl.

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You can swap accessories once you are in the instance, even if it would bring you under the minimum ilvl.