Waved or Reduced MP cost for Magic combo's

I don't even play THM but considering how fast I burn MP as CNJ it must be a pain to play THM. At least CNJ has Shroud of Saints for MP regen and Blissful Mind for pooling it. Because of that, CNJ can maintain MP really well (you do burn out eventually, but smart use of combos, Blissful Mind and Shroud can keep you going a long time).

I'm honestly surprised that Blissful Mind is a CNJ skill since it sacrifices HP. I would've thought that was more appropriate for THM personally. Something needs doing to help THM out; either bigger MP pool, MP reductions for combos or just giving THM an easier way to build MP without standing around for a while.

Honestly, just giving THM access to Blissful Mind would help a lot.

...Did a Darkhold Run as Cjn... never lost alot of MP.

Then again... cure is 110 Mp, Cura is 220 or something, and Curaga 410?

And Our first spells are 210+ Mp, Ra's are 410+, and Ga's are 410-712.

I want Blissful Mind and Shroud of Saints on Thm, now please.

I think the ones complainting about MP high cost, don't remember/didn't play, FFXI. In FFXI, BLMs usually had to not stand, but SIT, to regain MP properly in end-game battles. Sure, there was a BRD and RDM casting refresh on them, plus Vermilion Cloak or other gear, but BLM had to manage MP, nuking > sitting for a couple of mins > nuke...

Maybe we were all to used to having 30 MP spells... I say lets wait for 1.21 and learn the class the way it is now, we still can deal great damage.

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Originally Posted by Tyro

I think the ones complainting about MP high cost, don't remember/didn't play, FFXI. In FFXI, BLMs usually had to not stand, but SIT, to regain MP properly in end-game battles. Sure, there was a BRD and RDM casting refresh on them, plus Vermilion Cloak or other gear, but BLM had to manage MP, nuking > sitting for a couple of mins > nuke...

Maybe we were all to used to having 30 MP spells... I say lets wait for 1.21 and learn the class the way it is now, we still can deal great damage.

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I did not play black-mage in FFXI, it was too slow. Not even in a good way. You think the slower the more powerful, not true when it came to melee damage. Though AoE damage yeah, black-mage was way better at group kills, but like most people say, that was Abyssea.

Haven't tried THM so far but CNJ has moooore than enough ways to keep its MP up. In that regard, CNJ doesn't really need reduced MP costs as far as it concerns me. :D

SE sanguine rite, is just useless. You Guys gotta fix it. Instead spending 300mp to activate it, and regen of 15mp per hit, what about do the opposite? Thm got fucked. No one wants and needs to play this class after 1.20. Taking area dmg toggle wasn't smart either.

Yep. I geared up my THM all the way for this patch. Now I understand that I won't actually get to use it til Jobs come out in 1.21. Don't think ill be paying til then.

With time sensitive battles you can't have even one member of the team just standing still in the corner for a minute or two.

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Originally Posted by Noir

SE sanguine rite, is just useless. You Guys gotta fix it. Instead spending 300mp to activate it, and regen of 15mp per hit, what about do the opposite? Thm got fucked. No one wants and needs to play this class after 1.20. Taking area dmg toggle wasn't smart either.

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is that how it works?

in a party THM wouldnt really be taking any damage so yeah i can see that as useless.
so is it really useless while soloing leves?

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Originally Posted by Zigirus_Essan

Allow me to explain with some parse data from my Ifrit fights tonight.

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What gear/food you use atm?

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Originally Posted by Tyro

I think the ones complainting about MP high cost, don't remember/didn't play, FFXI. In FFXI, BLMs usually had to not stand, but SIT, to regain MP properly in end-game battles. Sure, there was a BRD and RDM casting refresh on them, plus Vermilion Cloak or other gear, but BLM had to manage MP, nuking > sitting for a couple of mins > nuke...

Maybe we were all to used to having 30 MP spells... I say lets wait for 1.21 and learn the class the way it is now, we still can deal great damage.

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Ginger cookies/yagudo drinks/ethers. Hell, Dark elemental staff gave +10 MP/tick when resting. You were only sat down for like 10 seconds to go back to full.

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Originally Posted by Noir

SE sanguine rite, is just useless. You Guys gotta fix it. Instead spending 300mp to activate it, and regen of 15mp per hit, what about do the opposite? Thm got fucked. No one wants and needs to play this class after 1.20. Taking area dmg toggle wasn't smart either.

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I actually find it to be a life saver and one of the better "useless" spells on my action bar. Granted a mage should not be tanking, but this ability alone has saved my butt and allowed me to tank Moggle preq NMs and Ifrit with cure bombs alone. Against anything your level it is minimal, but like I said getting 300+ MP regen a hit on Ifrit allowed me to tank from open to Hellfire as both CNJ and THM in a broken pickup party. Even in large SH pulls that go wrong I Curaga, pop Sent, Rampage, etc, Cure tank, hit San Rite and boom back to full MP.