How would I explain this games never changing formula?

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

McDonalds only significant business growth in recent yeras has come on the back of extending their breakfast menu to 24 hours.

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McDonald's lost business with me awhile ago. I don't like fast food much period but I preferred Burger King since I feel like the burgers taste slightly better if I need to grab something real quick. The 24 hour breakfast lie almost roped me back in until I found out it's only SELECT breakfast items which are offered 24 hours. For example I can't get a sausage biscuit with egg anytime of the day, because heating up a biscuit it so much harder than a english muffin I guess *rolls eyes*. I just really liked their biscuit sandwiches.

One thing that's not really taken into consideration is, 99% of people who are happy with the product they purchased, carry on with using the product and have nothing to say. It's only when you want to complain or voice a concern that you speak up. Therefore, for every one negative comment or person who is unhappy with the game, there are a hundred who are happy and not saying anything. So it might seem that many ppl are unhappy, but it's such a small percentage that SE isn't going to change what they are doing. Why would they.

To keep with the theme, if you don't like McDonald's burgers, don't eat them. You can call and complain all you want, but they're still making millions a day and they aren't going to change the burgers over a small percentage of unhappy customers. Kick Rocks!

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

But, if you like burgers, sooner or later you come back.

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But in a sea of burger places that also serve burgers what is your business doing to set it apart to get someone to come back. Why go to McDonalds over and again when you enjoy the wider variety of offerings that say The Pink Bicycle offers. Enough people start taking their business elsewhere and yours starts to fail. Do you just keep doing what you have or do you decide to take what makes the other place take your customers away? Do you wait until your business is in ruins before you take those steps?

I am not saying that a dungeon is a dungeon but I am pointing out diversifying your content to appeal to more than just a certain group helps grow your products install base.As it is there is very little in the way of new things that are kept in cycle. Most dungeons are reusing the same 10 or so mechanics. Stack mechanic with a new mob animation (but same indicator)? Shiva ice circles? Titan's Gaols? These are all just a new boss animation in a different fight? I will praise weeping city for it finally adding SOME new mechanics to things but more or less its just the same mechanic in a new order. The side content you mentioned, why is it not being kept terribly relevant?

How often do we step inside the gold saucer these days beside the daily scratch or the cactpot?

Diadem? Where is any sort of update to that to bring it back instead of leaving it as a waste of server space and core system development time? The core system has been made so there is no base system to code which should expedite some development time on.

2 Dungeons a patch with mostly reused mechanics? I love the atmosphere some provide aesthtically so the art team did a great job. The final fight of Sohr Khai was an amazing change so the battle team did a great job on it but how long until that arena style is rehashed to save development time and its just another thing on the list of stuff we have already seen.

Gardening is tied to their horrible housing system which they say all the time "we are working on making it xyz" but at the same time they also said "playing housing will be completely seperate fro free company housing" so planter boxes in an apartment? MAYBE? I wont hold my breath for content that has been a disappointment thus far (why I havent gone to KFC in years and they forever lost my business)

The sight seeing log is interesting, I loved how it started out but it went from well thought about clues to find a place to hey search every inch of this zone because there is one here but we cant be bothered to take the time to give hints anymore. Speaking of which how about we get some updates to this since I finished it ages ago. Would be nice to do some more of it.

PvP is something I dont take an interest in so I cant comment on that so maybe there you will have a point but I can neither confirm or deny it.

The crafting system FINALLY received a much needed revitalization however since the release of this patch what point is there to craft other than crafting gear to craft gear for gear crafting. This really should be kept up on a per patch basis on more than glamor (which is the true end game but maybe not for everyone).

My point is they create all this side stuff to do but then either impliment it horribly (housing) or leave it to fester and die rather than expand on it (diadem) and the content they do focus on for the most part is a new skin on the same product. I can change my mercy from its default skin to a cheeky imp skin and maybe for a few days that will amuse me but in the long run not so much. Also if I go and eat taco's for a little while (play a different game lets say a moba or team based shooter or even a single player experience) then I get a craving for a burger (in this case to play an MMO) with all the selection of places to go these days what if I decide to instead of go to McD's I go to Wendy's instead? Maybe I hop around to a few places and find a new one? That is lost business and for ANY business lost business is bad.

There are a lot of thing this game can do better, and while I am not dissatisfied to the point of quitting yet, the main draw of this game is no longer the content provided rather than the community I am a part of for the social experience and when enough of them quit due to these issues then I will as well.

People leave and they don't come back

http://i.imgur.com/XVVxwrG.png

And as far as new players joining? It wont always be like that. Eventually it will stagnate or start to decline as people fall out of love and it ages. Less media coverage, less word of mouth, less new players. Maybe it already has as I know i start new characters because the leveling experience is something I enjoy in all games and I have across all servers almost 25ish characters at varying levels (the 7 alts I have on this server are at least 1-2 jobs at 50+) so some of those sprouts may be people like me looking for something to do.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

The fact that none of the mods in the community openly speak with players in open discussions about the game itself only proves how disjointed they are. It will either be "we are doing this or that" or a niche "nice suggestion we will forward to our bosses and may consider it."

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Maybe, just maybe because mods are not devs.
You want to speak with a dev directly? Learn first japanese.

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Originally Posted by Yurimi

People leave and they don't come back

http://i.imgur.com/XVVxwrG.png

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People have been leaving this game and not coming back since this game came out. I've seen people over the past 2 1/2 years use this same example (your image of inactive players) and it's never amounted to much of anything except anecdotal evidence because people come and go all the time and most people are not going to spend years playing the same game. Will this game eventually start to see less new players joining? Yes, obviously. But it won't be the death of the game by any means.

People do enjoy grinding though OP. If people didn't like grinding for reward then ARPGs like Diablo wouldn't exist. Sometimes I wish the rewards would be more rewarding like Diablo though :(.

This thread is making me crave a Big Mac.

I understand that many people are discontent with the state of the game for the past months/years, but why should a company honestly care about complaints if you need an active game sub to even post complaints on this forum? The possibility of losing subs is just a possibility till it happens and unless it happens on a large scale, there's no reason to care till it happens. Of course that sounds stupid, but how many of us run a business making millions of dollars a month?

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Originally Posted by Ryel

He did exactly this based on the feedback from the thread.

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Yes, he did. After realizing that making a thread like this and saying "I'm not working for SE. Giving ideas for making the game better isn't my job" is an incredibly stupid way to get anything done.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Interestingly enough lots of new people are joining. I see new leafs all the time.

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I don't think thouse are new players though. More like old players with new characters.