Please start the new jobs at level 1

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

hey it's their game, they can do whatever they want. we're given a middle ground here. not everyone likes a snooze fest from 1-50 fate grind. :/ calm down man.

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Lol, I wonder if you'd be singing the same tune if SE was doing something you didn't like.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

The difference between NIN I think is because DOMA came to us, while for Heavensward were actually going to them to learn it.

That's just my standpoint of where SE is going with it. You can argue in circles with me all day.

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Again, you're just pulling excuses out of your rear. In FFXI the new jobs were also located in the new expansion areas, so there is abosultely nothing preventing them from doing the same here.

Honestly if you really want to get into drama, technically I doubt if by FF lore that a level one Astrologian from Ishgard can really make his way through Coerthas alive, and start leveling in the level 1-10 zone.

Unless of course your absolutely determined to run through those zones. Just so you can level 1-30.

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

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Lol, I wonder if you'd be singing the same tune if SE was doing something you didn't like.

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they have but I've dealt with it, and you know what? I've been gated housing for months. but at least you can go back down lower levels if you feel like it lol, I can't get a house at al.:v

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

Honestly if you really want to get into drama, technically I doubt if by FF lore that a level one Astrologian from Ishgard can really make his way through Coerthas alive, and start leveling in the level 1-10 zone.

Unless of course your absolutely determined to run through those zones. Just so you can level 1-30.

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More ridiculous arguments. So do you think that all Ishgardian-born adventures/soldiers start out at level 30 too? Don't try to mix lore with game mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

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More ridiculous arguments. So do you think that all Ishgardian-born adventures/soldiers start out at level 30 too? Don't try to mix lore with game mechanics.

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I just don't think it makes sense to have any of the new jobs running around gridania or what not 1-30. They are jobs, not classes.
Jobs as you should know how to play the class.
If you really want to make an argument why not ask SE to make a new class that starts 1-30 before going into whatever. I just feel like the gated thing is a good idea.
People should be in 'touch' with the story not with the jobs.

Lol the 1-30 Levelling experience, are you for real.

Spamming 1 ability to get gold rewards in fates, wow, such experience.

V. happy they decided to start the new jobs at a point where it's at-least mildly interesting to play rather than spam 1 button and watch stuff on TV.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

Hey sometimes I like to watch my animus. ^^

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I will be very disappointed if you lack a magical stripping/reequipping macro.

About the Job gating. I want to see how it's implemented before I make a call.

To everyone saying that "all jobs start at 30". No.
All jobs can be unlocked at 30. You still need to get to level 30 first. You can also choose not to unlock the jobs at all and still hit level 50.

That said how things used to work should hardly be used as a measure for how they will work, because evidently these jobs are different.

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Originally Posted by Hyrist

I will be very disappointed if you lack a magical stripping/reequipping macro.

About the Job gating. I want to see how it's implemented before I make a call.

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I actually have a magical girl glamour and sometimes take long walks on the beach.
I do have in-game macros for my fan-gasms.

I'm just love a good story. For the new jobs to be open right away feels like it's not as adventerous as it should be. In games like FF6 per say, you go out and you look for this class. You aren't rewarded at the start with Shadow or whatever. You had to progress to earn. So this is what it's like for me. Opinions. Mine, sorry to intrude on some peoples gameplayu.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

I actually have a magical girl glamour and sometimes take long walks on the beach.
I do have in-game macros for my fan-gasms.

I'm just love a good story. For the new jobs to be open right away feels like it's not as adventurous as it should be. In games like FF6 per say, you go out and you look for this class. You aren't rewarded at the start with Shadow or whatever. You had to progress to earn. So this is what it's like for me. Opinions. Mine, sorry to intrude on some peoples gameplayu.

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Yeah, this is a matter of Preference and, hearing it explained in the matter of FF6, I can get your viewpoint. My worries is that the time/gameplay investment that it takes to get to a class someone will enjoy, especially if it is what makes people buy the game in the first place. We can argue luck of the draw, but why is Dragoon easily accessible when Dark Knight is not? I don't see a solid lore reason why these new jobs don't have envoys in ARR zones to start someone who's just getting level 30 on the path of those jobs. After all, Dragoon is an Ishgardian job, yet, we were able to learn skills due to one of the masters hanging out in Corethas Central Highlands.

The point is, we lack information to really make a Lore-based reasoning that these classes are not accessible outside of Heavensward zones. The lore of Dark Knight, Astrologian, and Mechanist may very well justify the decision - but we don't have access to any of that yet. That's why I'm holding on making an opinion.