Seems we have an answer on the 'lore' vs. 'new player friendly' NIN option ^^

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Originally Posted by Dhex

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The thing is that a huge amount of players wanting to play Ninja are already past 2.2 so even if you would have locked it behind it, your queue would still be really terrible and all those little Week 1/5 description you made would have happened anyway. Forcing a player to have at least one max level of another character to have access to another is terrible design.

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Originally Posted by Dwill

The thing is that a huge amount of players wanting to play Ninja are already past 2.2 so even if you would have locked it behind it, your queue would still be really terrible and all those little Week 1/5 description you made would have happened anyway. Forcing a player to have at least one max level of another character to have access to another is terrible design.

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That's just a matter of opinion.

Mine is obviously not the same as yours.

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Originally Posted by Rbstr

0_o Curious George and the BLM trainers and the two Padjal kiddos are so very deeply connected to the lore?
Part of the point is that Ninjas don't even come from Eorzea in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Rbstr

0_o Curious George and the BLM trainers and the two Padjal kiddos

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0_o Curious George and the BLM trainers

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Originally Posted by Rbstr

Curious George

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Curious GORGE

DO NOT MAKE THIS MISTAKE

OR WE MIGHT HAVE TO AXE YOU SOME QUESTIONS

>:I

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Originally Posted by Noshpan

My only disappointment was that Rogue would not be available to choose from at character creation. However, that disappointment is only severely mild, i.e. I'll live.

For convenience sake, I would go with choosing Maurader or Arcanist to start with. Then, when you get to the point you're able to unlock other classes (usually around level 10) and pick up Rogue.

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Why not go with the nin pre-req class instead? since you need to lv that to 15 anyway.
so lets say it's PUG, you can start as that, lv it up to 15, unlock travel to other nations (if you haven't already) go to Limsa, pick up ROG.

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This would have/is going to happen any way. A vast majority of people are past. What does playing playing solely as a Rogue from levels 1-50 actually achieve anyway? You learn how to play a class without rotation defining abilities? Rogue lore also stops at level 30.

Yeah so far classes are a joke, jobs are what we need to look after.

So those who love the lore of classes are obviously disappointed.

IIRC, SE stated they might look into the class/job system after 3.0 or right at the expansion, to do big changes.

Please look forward to it!

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Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss

Yeah so far classes are a joke, jobs are what we need to look after.

So those who love the lore of classes are obviously disappointed.

IIRC, SE stated they might look into the class/job system after 3.0 or right at the expansion, to do big changes.

Please look forward to it!

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actually they said it would NOT be any big changes, cause that would confuse ppl.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

This isn't news at all for those who weren't blinded by their own egos. Lick those wounds, elitists, you knew this was how it was going to be.

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Remember in other games when something new and exciting was planned for release and it turns out you need x class at y level in order to unlock the new content?

Nevermind, I'm gonna assume you never played WoW.
Or Tera.
Or Path of Exile.
Or Diablo.

How did you even find this game?

To be honest, that maskless Ninja doesn't preclude him to be the Ninja trainer at all. For all we know he may be part of the Ninja storyline (as a protagonist or antagonist), or Yugiri's subordinate, tasked to teach you the basics and whatnot.

I wouldn't read into anything just yet, especially since SE didn't show anyone who the start NPC would be for the Ninja quest.

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Originally Posted by Mjytresz

Remember in other games when something new and exciting was planned for release and it turns out you need x class at y level in order to unlock the new content?

Nevermind, I'm gonna assume you never played WoW.
Or Tera.
Or Path of Exile.
Or Diablo.

How did you even find this game?

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Thing is, he played XI at least to some extent which did the same thing, even for unlocking jobs beyond the original 6, which might be why he seems so aggressive about it, because the hate for XI and XI concepts in this community is as big as a mountain.