Tanking Bone Dragon at the Edge

I think the biggest thing that people are forgetting is that nobody cares about melee DPS and their woes. If we could tank everything in fire, we'd do it.

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Originally Posted by Marxam

2. tanking him north means that some skeletons will cross through the water meaning more damage on you and more work on healers.
3. tanking him north also means less room for dps to get positions on him and will likely have to go into the water resulting in less dps more work on healers.
4. If he is centered the healers can easily reach everyone.

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Frankly, as a healer, I don't mind because the entire fight is a snoozefest. Poison does pretty negligible damage, and we have sprint. Healing is no fun when people aren't dying.

Really though, both methods have their pros and cons and both methods work. Stop trying to invalidate one or the other.

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Originally Posted by Marxam

No offense but only stupid tanks take him north and honestly deserve to die. If you say tanking him there leaves room for error then you're wrong.

1. if he is tanked in the center that means less room to travel when pulling skeletons to the edges.
2. tanking him north means that some skeletons will cross through the water meaning more damage on you and more work on healers.
3. tanking him north also means less room for dps to get positions on him and will likely have to go into the water resulting in less dps more work on healers.
4. If he is centered the healers can easily reach everyone.
5. group a should pull east while group b pulls west.
6. no one will get hit by BD's cones if no one stands in the front. Only stay to his flank or rear.

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Dear god...
1. Skeletons spawn in center regardless of where the dragon is located.
2. Valid point, my healers choose not to care.
3. Honestly, the dragon dying faster would lead more to a wipe then a success (all skeletons that are alive when the dragon dies auto run to him)...This is not a DPS race!
4. Valid point.
5. This happens regardless of strategy.
6. This happens regardless of strategy.

So, your only valid point is that healing will be a bit more difficult and this is cause to claim that people using it deserve to die? Nice.

Ive only tanked him in the center. Sometimes we had tanks who tried to provoke off me and move to the north, was kinda funny actually.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

Stunnable? I blow Brutal Swing all the time to try to do more dps when I'm pacified when I mt it, it always says its immune D:

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Yeah it's stunnable. I do it all the time.

its horrible to tank at the edge, takes forever to position it and melees have to run through poison to damage skeletons and the path is unnecessary long, any average melee could kill skeletons before they reach center. The conal issue can be solve by always facing the dragon north, there are enough platforms on the lower half of the arena to accommodate the skeletons.

also, the north platform is so small it's very difficult for melee to dps effectively without standing in poison

note: if you kill the dragon fast enough you can effectively skip a few skeletons.

JP servers, mostly tank at center. Have not seen any CT raid that tanks at a corner.

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Originally Posted by Aegis

All right then. Scenario 2: Tanking Vassagos; do you move them clockwise or anticlockwise when first fire pool spawns?

Any data centre variations? Balmung (which I believe is Aether) tanks them clockwise.

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Hyperion (which is on the Primal data centre and does Dragon at the edge, unlike Balmung) tanks them clockwise as well... theoritcally. There's very often one group that tanks them the counter-clockwise direction making it lopsided. Oddly enough this is almost always group A, resulting in the two Vassago (Vassagi?) being tanked just to either side of where the entrance bridge was. I have never seen group B tank the wrong direction, and only rarely seen group C do it. I still haven't figured out why A is always the one to move the wrong way when it happens. Maybe it's because when they pull, their Vassago moves towards the entrance, meaning they're more likely to end up on the counter-clockwise side of the fire aoe when it spawns, and their tank just takes the shorter route out of it.

CT raids I have been on, most of the time if not always tank at the far north. It is just easier that way. but the center can be done as well.

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Originally Posted by Aegis

Overlapping AOEs, Dark Halo or Grim Halo or whatever it's called

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actually if they get close the laser beam things go all crazy looking and pump up the bomb really fast as well as giving them a huge defensive buff to the point of them taking damage in the low teens