#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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Originally Posted by RulerOfPotaoes

There was never a healer strike. There never will be either.

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I didn't know something didn't existed if I pretended it wasn't a thing! Maybe I should try turning off my object permanence... oh god where did my hands go? Oh... they were in the drawer.

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You're entitled to complain and criticize. But wanting to affect the gaming experience of everyone else *especially with dps queues as they are due to new jobs* is incredibly selfish and immature.

You're no better than the people who protest by blocking traffic in the middle of the road.

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Have you considered that dps queues were usually bad even before the dawntrail expansion launch? What do you want us to do- play healer? Why? We don't enjoy playing healer. It is only natural for people to play what they want. Would you storm into other games and say the same thing to players who aren't playing a required trinity role because it is badly designed?

Nice of you to bring up a real world issue and compare it to a videogame. Am I blocking people from going to their paying job by not playing healer in ffxiv, a videogame?

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Healer jobs have issues. But this is not the way to go about it.

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How would you go about it?

I see a lot advocating for a bigger dps toolkit but for me that doesnt solve the problem. Yes I DPS during downtime and have noticed it's so much easier to do that in dungeons so far in DT.

But i'd rather have skills that buff the players to do more damage, skills that weaken the enemy including savage and extreme, remove status ailments from players (status ailments seems to be something that mobs/bosses are pumping out less and less).

Trash mobs need to have more bite to them again little things solve this paralyze, slow, bio/poison.

If after all this is added then sure up the DPS but first give me a healer...

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

I see a lot advocating for a bigger dps toolkit but for me that doesnt solve the problem. Yes I DPS during downtime and have noticed it's so much easier to do that in dungeons so far in DT.

But i'd rather have skills that buff the players to do more damage, skills that weaken the enemy including savage and extreme, remove status ailments from players (status ailments seems to be something that mobs/bosses are pumping out less and less).

Trash mobs need to have more bite to them again little things solve this paralyze, slow, bio/poison.

If after all this is added then sure up the DPS but first give me a healer...

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If it helps, Astrologian used to have access to slow. It is unfortunate so many debuffs have been stripped from full jobs (blu still has access to them iirc).

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

I see a lot advocating for a bigger dps toolkit but for me that doesnt solve the problem. Yes I DPS during downtime and have noticed it's so much easier to do that in dungeons so far in DT. But i'd rather have skills that buff the players to do more damage, skills that weaken the enemy including savage and extreme, remove status ailments from players (status ailments seems to be something that mobs/bosses are pumping out less and less). Trash mobs need to have more bite to them again little things solve this paralyze, slow, bio/poison. If after all this is added then sure up the DPS but first give me a healer...

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Agreed, it's why I advocate for both more DPS and more to heal. Heck, I'd love for CC to become a thing again and I hate that it's been sidelined in this game, although I'd like it to be a shared responsibility amongst the trinity rather than just a healer thing or just a tank thing.

Also I'd argue that buffs (especially damage buffs) are a form of damage kit anyway, they're something you have to upkeep for the sake of making the boss die faster, so having a healer that's much more buff focused would fall under that umbrella of more DPS in my eyes (and something AST kinda does already). Having all the healers shift to a buff focus is just another way to homogenize the kits and I don't think works well for a job like Sage whose marketing put it as the "I DPS to heal" healer. SGE should definitely have a more defined damage kit to fulfil that fantasy.

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Originally Posted by Local_Custard

If it helps, Astrologian used to have access to slow. It is unfortunate so many debuffs have been stripped from full jobs (blu still has access to them iirc).

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Used to also have to deal with poison, doom and paralyze quite regularly at one point. Hell give silence to enemies too after you've made them spicier and force us to bring echo drops.

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Originally Posted by TheDustyOne

Agreed, it's why I advocate for both more DPS and more to heal. Heck, I'd love for CC to become a thing again and I hate that it's been sidelined in this game, although I'd like it to be a shared responsibility amongst the trinity rather than just a healer thing or just a tank thing.

Also I'd argue that buffs (especially damage buffs) are a form of damage kit anyway, they're something you have to upkeep for the sake of making the boss die faster, so having a healer that's much more buff focused would fall under that umbrella of more DPS in my eyes (and something AST kinda does already). Having all the healers shift to a buff focus is just another way to homogenize the kits and I don't think works well for a job like Sage whose marketing put it as the "I DPS to heal" healer. SGE should definitely have a more defined damage kit to fulfil that fantasy.

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You can but you'd have them do it a different way i.e a damage spell that leaves a debuff on the boss that heals the players think drain samba on 11. There you have a regen on sage that's dps based and a debuff. I do agree that buffing players is a damage buff too to healers and that should be our role inflicting damage indirectly.

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Originally Posted by RulerOfPotaoes

There was never a healer strike. There never will be either.

You're entitled to complain and criticize. But wanting to affect the gaming experience of everyone else *especially with dps queues as they are due to new jobs* is incredibly selfish and immature.

You're no better than the people who protest by blocking traffic in the middle of the road.

Healer jobs have issues. But this is not the way to go about it.

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Playing a different role because you aren't having fun as a healer is "selfish and immature" lmao

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

Used to also have to deal with poison, doom and paralyze quite regularly at one point. Hell give silence to enemies too after you've made them spicier and force us to bring echo drops.

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I am sad my echo drops almost never get use. I carry around a stack of every curative pot available for me.
I always keep spare: antidote, spine drops, echo drops, golden needles (rip I never use these), and healing potions.
Also, I just found out about smelling salts so next time I pop into the game I will definitely craft a large stack of those.
I wish debuffs were curable again. It would certainly be more incentive to bring healers.

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

You can but you'd have them do it a different way i.e a damage spell that leaves a debuff on the boss that heals the players think drain samba on 11. There you have a regen on sage that's dps based and a debuff.

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Kardia already kinda does that anyway as a buff rather than debuff. For the most part I think Sage could be better by putting attacks that trigger different Kardia effects, like an attack that Regens the Kardia target, a barrier, a stronger heal on a cooldown, etc. as well as a speed buff on itself (or a high apm burst) to back-to-back trigger Kardia quickly. It already has a good working drain-like mechanic, it just doesn't take full advantage of it in favour of copy-pasting Aetherflow.

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

Used to also have to deal with poison, doom and paralyze quite regularly at one point. Hell give silence to enemies too after you've made them spicier and force us to bring echo drops.

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I miss dungeons where curing status effects were a common part of the healer's role. In DT I wouldn't be surprised if you use esuna more in the healer role quests than in actual duties...

Yet, improving dungeons is only part of the solution since it doesn't address older content nor fix the one button spam. Even the new "DPS actions" are just minor enhancements that barely change anything.

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Originally Posted by RulerOfPotaoes

There was never a healer strike. There never will be either.

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thanks for bumping the thread of something that never happened and never will.

your contribution to the cause is appreciated sir ^^