White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Can you give me an example of someone using that argument? Consider me intrigued.

I'm a firm believer in people voting with their wallets if they feel that a particular company has done them a disservice not just because it sends the company a message but because it's excellent for the individual's health and well being. There are countless games out there that people could be playing. Both in terms of single player games and multiplayer games. Not everybody is going to enjoy FFXIV and that's perfectly fine.

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look at battlefield 5 and the Angry Joe nonsense for a not-this-game, but current events example.

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Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

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Username checks out.

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Originally Posted by Amiral_Benson

Part. 2
Those White Ravens, it's not about an exclusivity, it's about a trophy unlikely to occur more than once.
...And now the prize of one is handed out, not even as a replica.

Something like this, in those conditions of a game on a countdown before shutting down, it's one of a kind.
That's why it grieves those who sacrificed that much to get them, it's sad and underwhelming. People lampooning it is regrettable.

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But it may not be just "handed out". If it is, then yeah, I can agree with you, that would be in poor taste. But we don't know until the actual event occurs. IF we got to do the fight, as close as technically feasible, with the same item and character level, and we completed it successfully, would that not be close enough to the same thing?

I mean.. would that be okay? Or is it the combination of "a very hard fight" + "servers shutting down and we won't get to experience this as it was"? (I'm legitimately asking, not trying to stir up drama).

If that wouldn't be acceptable, what item from 1.0 COULD make a return and not face this backlash?

Sooo... if the event item is renamed with "replica" in front will people calm down?

I understand enjoying exclusive items, and trophies from old conquests but some of you 1.0ers get those torches and pitchforks going over the silliest things.

On a side note I don't even care for the earrings and was going to toss them in storage...

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Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

look at battlefield 5 and the Angry Joe nonsense for a not-this-game, but current events example.

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That's largely irrelevant to FFXIV, though. I don't believe I've ever seen anyone here call people out for not 'supporting the game'. If anything, I see a lot of people encouraging players to not throw money at FFXIV. This is particularly true of the recent companion app, which received a lot of - understandable - backlash and has been hit with negative reviews.

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Originally Posted by Kiriezaiku

Sooo... if the event item is renamed with "replica" in front will people calm down?

I understand enjoying exclusive items, and trophies from old conquests but some of you 1.0ers get those torches and pitchforks going over the silliest things.

On a side note I don't even care for the earrings and was going to toss them in storage...

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Pretty much adding it as a Replica will be acceptable to the majority, it sounds like.
It's not really about 1.0, it's about giving away trophy items as an event handout.

So how does putting "Replica" in the front make people feel better when it'd literally be the exact same thing anyway again..? This is super petty.

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

So how does putting "Replica" in the front make people feel better when it'd literally be the exact same thing anyway again..? This is super petty.

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Despite what a lot of people try to make it seem like, it's not a bad thing to be proud of trophies, or accomplishments, or having a unique shiny item that is extremely rare. The original was from a challenging fight in 1.0. Having the new earring listed as a replica will differentiate between those who obtained it i 1.0, and those who did not. People still get their glamour even if it says 'replica'.

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Originally Posted by Amiral_Benson

Like I mentioned, I cleared it as well as both Ultimate, and the one that took me the most time and investment was Rivenroad (Hard) by far, about 5 month, because of all the requirements when you're going there serious enough.

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I’m not trying to devalue your accomplishment, but how could you invest 5 months into a piece of content that was only available for 3 months? Rivenroad (Hard) came out in Patch 1.23b, which was released 2012.08.13, and then the 1.0 servers all went offline on 2012.11.12. Again, not trying to devalue anything, but the times don’t add up, unless I’m missing something.

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

So how does putting "Replica" in the front make people feel better when it'd literally be the exact same thing anyway again..? This is super petty.

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Differentiation. Personally, I think they should have added “Replica” to it, and I don’t really know why they didn’t... well, except I think it was just laziness. Guess they didn’t want to have to code another item in. I don’t know.

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Originally Posted by Aviars

Do you guys know why people won't answer whether or not they DESERVE this item despite the fact they did not DO the fight???

Because they know that the moment they say "no I do not deserve it" that the whole idea that these items should have been released in this event would have been silly.

They all try to conflate the issue with irrelevant details like "it doesn't matter earrings" or "the devs are free to do w.e they want despite community opinion."

In the end, they all know that they don't deserve it, they don't want to admit it because they don't want anyone to have anything that resembles a status symbol because it makes them feel bad. Makes me sad. :*(**

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You can invert this argument to pretty much be "It only matters to people because they want to hold the status symbol over others heads to prove how dedicated they are."

"Gawsh, Im so good. I was here in 1.0 doing the hardest content in the game. Im a true hardcore ffxiv fan! Git gud pleb!"

All the while not realizing that the symbol means less because of the fact discontinued content means no one can even attempt the feat. It becomes more of a point of who happened to be playing an iteration of the game that was widely lauded as being terrible. In that light, it smacks of elitism.

The earrings becoming an event item is a non issue if the whole point was that those who participated in it did it. They have memories of it. It was their own personal accomplishment. And thats what should matter. The earrings are, for all intensive purposes, bragging rights from a version of the game long since discontinued. It's nothing but internet hotdog measuring at this point.