To the people who are logged in overnight

[QUOTE=Skarith;1135132]Laughing at all the "if you're a responsible and mature adult you'll log off" BS I'm seeing in this post.

If you had to pick between a completely random persons well being (could be a racist or murderer for all you know) and your own well being,
any NORMAL person would pick their own well being.


How extremely cynical. Could also be a kid with cancer who is bedridden and gets a small amount of enjoyment or satisfaction from playing this game. I would guess as you read that reply the first thoughts in your brainspace would be about in what ways that kid might hinder or affect you from doing what you want to do. Again just a (well educated) guess. Said it before "character" issues. Still I have no real issue with you at all, I blame the parents.

Hopefully the afk issue will dealt with sooner rather then months from now. The other day no matter what time I tried to login server was full. I was finally able to login after 11:45 Pm eastern time NA. What made me mad was a selfish player bragging how he/she stay afk everyday. We get rested ExP if we logout inside the Inn no reason to stay on. Its just very frustrating that the exploit to beat the system is enhancing the problem. I log off cause its only fair to let people have their turn. Like many have stated once free trial ends it may lead to less congestion.

I get online around 7am est and have only a few 1017s before I get in that early in the morning. I have been logging out when not actively playing even if that is only for an hour for lunch since I am a fair and considerate person in general. However, the incredibly f'ed up log in errors and bs when trying to log back in (3 hours here, 4 hours there 7.5 hours after lunch today was max LOL) every single day and multiple times since EA, has made me decide to join the dark side. It is a shame that it is such a chore to play this game when, once actually IN the game, it is pretty fun and has some beautiful environments. I am just plumb worn out with all errors and issues (Code issues included sheesh) so far that I just want to play for ONE DAY without frustrating log in issues that occur for the majority of my days. My first "staying in game afk" will occur all tomorrow while I eat lunch/dinner and tend to whatever else crops up.

Yoshi already stated they will most likely be implementing an auto logoff but it is not a priority at the moment. I would like to see this feature because I believe it will fix most if not all of the log in issues I don't feel the addition of a few new servers and upping the capacity a little on the old ones are gonna fix all the issues. Most likely it will bring the 500,000 people trying to log on down to 200,000 and we will still be in the same situation. Personally I started to afk after being locked out for over 8 hours a couple of days ago. Made the mistake of logging off today to give my computer a rest and now "This server is full blah blah blah error error error 1017" So yah I don't agree with what afkers do but its out of my hands so "When in Rome, do what the Romans do" fits the bill here.

People are gonna afk, just get over it

listen the point is it's selfish to leave you character logged in! to deny it is foolish because every time i log in and start doing stuff i see at least 50 people at each aetherite afk! there is already undo strees to the server because of the retarded it they hired why be asinine and stay logged in because "i paid for this game i'm playing it when i play it" makes you all look like a child grow the f up if not gtfo we dont need assholes like you in ff go play wow!

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Originally Posted by Kaedan94

So you agree that people should be kicked for being AFK so others can play the game, but you're only willing to get off if you're forcibly kicked? There's certainly irony going on here, but it isn't from anybody from you.

For your information, there are plenty of players that willingly log off to let others play, myself and most of the Japanese population for one thing. Masamune wasn't having problems until we got a huge influx of American players that came because they couldn't log into their NA servers. Now all the rude players are staying logged in forever.

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i highlighted bs they're worse I'm on a ja server cant get in right now and as my previous post stated 50 peeps at least at every aetherite!

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Originally Posted by Ursok

there is no bazzar and no reason to really stay logged in,

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Question posited....

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right now it's just so you won't get the infamous 1017.

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And answered!

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Originally Posted by Lexxuk

I've been trying to log in for near enough 2 hours now, if I finally do manage to log in there is no way on Earth that I'm logging back out again. It's not my fault that SE are suffering from gross incompetence and so I'm not going to suffer the hours of trying to log in again tomorrow when I can just remain logged in.

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2 hours? Really? I have been able to log into the game in 10-20 minutes each day. I think you are exaggerating sir.

All I have to say about this is log out so some other people can have a turn, some people are so damn selfish, I hope your computers blow up or your graphics cards burn out from leaving them on 24-7.

In Matsamune I haven't been able to log in for two full days now.

There are 100's possibly even 1k players AFK in every server, thats 1k or less players that could be playing while there sleeping or doing what ever there doing while there AFK long time.

This entire issue wouldn't even be this bad if people would log the hell out once there done playing, the servers can only hold like 5k players at a time so this is just epic fail.

There should have been an AFK boot implemented from the very beginning.

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Originally Posted by BigolBrute

2 hours? Really? I have been able to log into the game in 10-20 minutes each day. I think you are exaggerating sir.

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I don't think it's an exaggeration. I literally had the same issue yesterday. In my experience the servers usually open up every 30 mins or so, but lately (For me at least) after 30 mins of trying the lobby will shut down preventing you from getting in, then reopen and leave you to try and spam login again. I was at it for (yes 2 hours) before giving up. Tried again for half an hour later and just figured it wasn't worth the time.

I'll just wait for these issue to be fixed, It's not worth being frustrated about

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Originally Posted by BigolBrute

2 hours? Really? I have been able to log into the game in 10-20 minutes each day. I think you are exaggerating sir.

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Try logging out right now and see the folly of your own exaggeration.
Weekend congestion is ridiculous, consider yourself lucky to even see 1017 error. Now it's mostly 2002 or 6001, can't even get to character screen.. or if you thought you luck out, it's usually straight 10102 connection lost that follows. It took me almost 2 hours on Saturday just to see the 1017 and subsequently another 30 minutes to finally log in. Today? I'm fast approaching that 2 hours of 2002/6001/10102, and have yet to see a single 1017.

I'm starting to miss 1017, funny as it sounds.. 1017 actually gives me hope.

not gonna spend time, which at this point could be hours, to get online when i can just stay online and never have to try to get online, sorry

if you want a piece of the pie, ask SE to make a bigger pie =P

yesterday I try to play for 6 hr, but that doesnt mean Im going to leave my pc on all night so I can play early...

I woke up, do my stuff try to log in... check youtube... netflix... crunchiroll... and keep checking if I can log in

I made this mistake of logging out last night. Now I've been trying to get in every minute for two hours.

People that don't log out and just afk all day long are just selfish bastards that have no respect for other people.

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Originally Posted by AJ666

People that don't log out and just afk all day long are just selfish bastards that have no respect for other people.

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Either this or they don't want to get 1017'ed. Not sure which one of those.

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Originally Posted by BigolBrute

2 hours? Really? I have been able to log into the game in 10-20 minutes each day. I think you are exaggerating sir.

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not true yesterday i watched 2 movies and 3 anime episodes while i had the game in windows mode pressing a single button till the game eventually just gave me the 2002 error so yes 2 hours is consivabl.

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Originally Posted by Usotsuki

Either this or they don't want to get 1017'ed. Not sure which one of those.

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They need to suck it up and take 1017 like a man.

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Originally Posted by Ursok

Hey guys while we get fixes on the loging issues and sever congestion issues why don't the people who just keep logged in (you know who you are) do the rest of us a favor and just log out while you're not playing and let the rest of us experience the game.

there is no bazzar and no reason to really stay logged in, right now it's just so you won't get the infamous 1017. but maybe things will go a little smoother while the fixes come if we all put in our little effort to alliviate the congestion.

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logout? i already beat login simulator 2013

Every night I get good sleep as my character has chair next to its name :3

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Originally Posted by LyleVertigo

Every night I get good sleep as my character has chair next to its name :3

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Selfish gimp.

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Originally Posted by Lexxuk

I've been trying to log in for near enough 2 hours now, if I finally do manage to log in there is no way on Earth that I'm logging back out again. It's not my fault that SE are suffering from gross incompetence and so I'm not going to suffer the hours of trying to log in again tomorrow when I can just remain logged in.

If you *really* want to fix the 1017 errors email philrogers@square-enix.com expressing your disgust at this debacle of a launch (he's the CEO for SE NA/EU), I'm sure if he suddenly gets thousands of emails from irate customers annoyed that the FFXIV team couldn't organise a pissup in a brewery he'll hopefully step in and kick some arse. Obviously he himself won't read the emails but the people that do would notify him that the XIV team are incompetent.

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A person who would have, I don't know, looked at the figures and had the hardware ready to roll come live?

How many 1.0 players played P3 and P4 (odds of going into live, very high)
How many players pre-ordered the game (odds of going into live, very high)

SE should have had a rough estimate of how many people would be playing 2.0 from Early Access to Live and you can be damn sure the figures are way higher than what they accounted for when their pathetically short P4 ended, the only word for a company which knows how many people should be playing and doesn't have the hardware present to cope with the demand is incompetent. The whole "we didn't expect this demand" is total and utter rubbish, they had the figures in front of them, if P4 had been longer they would have had the time to bring in more hardware so that the launch wouldn't be this screwed up with thousands of players unable to log in and their only answer being, again, total incompetence.

Why for instance does the game client have to sort out between the two data centres in Japan and Canada? That puts undue stress on both log in servers as you have to poll both the JP and NA/EU servers for a list of worlds, if on the launcher you could manually select the region you wanted to play you wouldn't have the NA/EU players hammering the JP world server list with no intention to go there and you wouldn't have the JP players hammering the NA/EU world server list without any intention of going there.

What kind of solution is putting you in a queue and then bringing up a message "The world is full, try again", I'm in the queue because it's full, that's the whole idea of a queue, you sit in it until you get to the front, not sit in it and then get thrown out of the queue. What kind of solution is "people are having trouble logging in, so what we'll do is make it harder for people to log in!". I said it's incompetence on SE's part because it is, no IT manager would build a system without redundancy to cope with unexpected demand and no IT manager would look at the figures and build a system unable to cope with expected demand, at least not if they wanted to keep their job.

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This man has it spot-on.

I don't understand why SE forgot to implement kicking off AFK users. I guess they don't have a way to automatically detect bot either. I really doubt the game can succeed in end game now. Forbidding AFK should be their first thing the do, expanding worlds being second. Think about it this way, 2000 people AFK on one world is 2/5 resources. Expanding worlds can only benefit new users who don't have a character. Existing ones must still wait to get in to the old world. Plus this situation will only get worse if not enforced. I've tried 6 hours today and couldn't get into my world. 6-hour is more than most of the time I could allocate to play the game. Now it's the long weekend so I can wait, but would I pay some game that I can only play 2 hours a week and waste 8 hours of my time?

To everyone who is getting 1017 in fear of logging off. Just leave your character in a Sanctuary and log off. Having your character AFK at an Aetheryte or Sanctuary can get the rested EXP bonus, but you can also get it when you are logged off, too! It makes NO SENSE to leave your character standing there doing nothing while you are away. It clutters the screen and can even put stress on both your own PC or PS3 with all of the characters on the screen. I've got lag every time when I go near a Sanctuary or Aetheryte because of all the AFK people. Just log off. You aren't missing anything in-game if you do!

I logged in this morning at 9am and played till my game error out at 10am. Now I have been trying to get back in to play for four hours. I would really like it if a fix happened today instead of having to wait till Wednesday JP time.

You want to know what's ironic. The people who want to avoid 1017 are the one's causing it in the first place. Come on, laugh with me here. LAUGH YOU SELFISH AFKERS!

I will remain logged in until I can confidently know I'll be able to get in when I want to.

not going to lie when me and my brother logged in we "thought" we will be kicked out for about 30 min or so but when we got back on we were still logged in shocked us yeah but we did not mean to do that now when we are not playing we do logged out so that anyone who is trying to log in can play

To put things in perspective. I started watching the first lord of the rings movie when I began trying to log in spamming "0" as fast as it would let me.
Those damn hobbits are half way to that stupid volcano, and like they're going to toss that shit in before I even manage to get past the log in server.

IF I ever get in I'm never going to leave unless I get kicked or disconnected.

http://cdn.meme.li/i/ofp8z.jpg

Learned my lesson in trying to play all Open Beta and Early access. 1017'ed for hours on end.

All we can do is work with what SE gives us.

Now I've been logged in Since Thursday night, come at me bro.

I find it disgusting that you people would come on the forums to gloat and rub in peoples faces that your log on and afk all day, You should be banned from the forums since this is harassing other people that cannot connect to the game and/or play cause of your selfishness.

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Originally Posted by AJ666

I find it disgusting that you people would come on the forums to gloat and rub in peoples faces that your log on and afk all day, You should be banned from the forums since this is harassing other people that cannot connect to the game and/or play cause of your selfishness.

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Exactly! They certainly ARE NOT missing much when their character is just standing there. I tell this to the children in my class during naptime (I work at a daycare), "go to sleep, you are not going to miss anything!" Seriously, get off the game and do something else besides hogging server space! I even have the decency to get what I want done on the game, finish it, then log off. Right now I want to log on to do something, but can't because people have their characters AFK. I logged on earlier today just to play a little bit before studying for my class. I got what I wanted done, then got off, studied and did gardening before it rained, then relaxed (took a nap), and wanted to get on the game before I started to study again.

The whole situation is SE's fault, and people need to stop blaming the players. I am trying to log in now, and have been literally for 4 straight hours, with less than a few seconds between each attempt (have had pretty much every error there is). I don't blame the people for not logging, because that 4 hours could be that person's playtime for the day. If it wasn't a weekend, I would be more upset, but it's still SE fault for not having a time-out system.

It's getting worse, too. I think it's at the point now where there are so many people unwilling to log-off, that servers are letting in no more than a couple people ever few minutes (which is incredibly slow). Again though, only way for it to be fixed (temporarily) is for everyone to log off, which isn't going to happen. So I can understand someone thinking that "well, if I'm the only one logging off, that's not gonna help anyone, and it will just mean I won't be able to log on and play later."

I've got a legacy character but I log out dutifully after I'm done to give other people a shot. I'm not sick (re:addicted) enough to care if I can't log on and play so I give other people an opportunity by freeing up a slot. If I can't get in it's no sweat off my back. I'll go do something else.

Hope some of you guys manage to get by the issues.

That being said the issues are still a fail by SE.

I just wanna play video games mang.

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Originally Posted by Darkillumina

I've got a legacy character but I log out dutifully after I'm done to give other people a shot. I'm not sick (re:addicted) enough to care if I can't log on and play so I give other people an opportunity by freeing up a slot. If I can't get in it's no sweat off my back. I'll go do something else.

Hope some of you guys manage to get by the issues.

That being said the issues are still a fail by SE.

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I pretty much do that same thing when i can get on game.

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Originally Posted by AJ666

I whine a lot.

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Guess whose responsibility it isn't to make sure that you can log in and play the game?

Oh wait, mine.

The responsibility for that lies with precisely one entity - Square Enix. I'm sorry if my "selfishness" offends you, but guess what? I don't know you, don't care about you, and don't have the slightest bit of vested interest in your well-being and happiness. And in any case, you telling me I should log out when I'm not playing is no different than me staying logged in - either way, one of us isn't gonna be able to play when we want to, because if you really think the 1017 issues and character list crashes are going to go away just because people start logging out, you're fooling yourself. This crap has been going on long before the perma-online trend started.

So I was spamming the login while eating goldfish and amusing myself with this thread. Oh look, I logged on. Carry on.

Logging out daily like a boss. Dont be weaksauce