It's so Awesome to See All the Cool Stuff Are Now in Cashshop.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

That's because they approve of it. It's their money. I'm not so arrogant to say what others should be doing with it. I only have control with what I do with my money.

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Do you know what a whale is?
It's an individual who pays enough to be worth hunting for and catering to, distorting the game under their oppressive weight. It doesn't matter if 99.9% of people don't pay $35 for a reskin mount; as long as that 0.1% do it will remain profitable and worth damaging the game over. This system is a necessary evil in free to play games - but this isn't f2p is it? Not only is there the monthly subscription cost, but the optional monthly extra retainer cost (up to 7 more directly), the companion app monthly fee including another extra retainer, past event rewards on the mogstore and the regular exclusive additions to the shop. While it shouldn't be necessary to mention, I will at least credit them for not having layer upon layer of obfuscating currency to hide the true costs, nor being able to directly buy power beyond the "catch-up" books (level and story sold separately).
Whales being so uncommon, yet having so much impact does necessarily mean that their purchases affect developer decisions and thus every player in the game.
Cash shops are a cancer that will only grow and metastasise if left unchecked.

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

I don't believe any of this pathetic excuses, I heard it first hand from ex-sqex employee working on FFXIV. When I asked them, they laughing their ass off, there is no such thing as angry lady LMAO....

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I'm surprised there's still a few people who believe this. The "baroness" is an obvious PR stunt meant to shift blame off of Yoshi P. Everybody at SE knows the cash shop is a blatant cash grab so what do they do? They create a fall guy, this baroness. She might be an actual person, she might not be. The point is she's there to take blame for the unpopular decision that is the cash shop. SE can't afford to have Yoshi P's image be tarnished by the addition of a cash grab feature, so this is where the "baroness" steps in. She essentially acts as a buffer or a lightning rod for Yoshi P, taking all the hits so he doesn't have to.

The baroness and the statement that "all proceeds from the cash shop go back into FFXIV" are very obvious PR tricks that a few people sadly still eat up.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

I honestly think the Mods should pin this thread, because it's painfully clear that we're gonna get a thread of this nature, and the same discussion, every single time they add anything to the cash shop :(

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Wait until The Rising. The yearly sale gets chintzier every time it rolls around.

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Originally Posted by fulminating

Do you know what a whale is?
It's an individual who pays enough to be worth hunting for and catering to, distorting the game under their oppressive weight. It doesn't matter if 99.9% of people don't pay $35 for a reskin mount; as long as that 0.1% do it will remain profitable and worth damaging the game over. This system is a necessary evil in free to play games - but this isn't f2p is it? Not only is there the monthly subscription cost, but the optional monthly extra retainer cost (up to 7 more directly), the companion app monthly fee including another extra retainer, past event rewards on the mogstore and the regular exclusive additions to the shop. While it shouldn't be necessary to mention, I will at least credit them for not having layer upon layer of obfuscating currency to hide the true costs, nor being able to directly buy power beyond the "catch-up" books (level and story sold separately).
Whales being so uncommon, yet having so much impact does necessarily mean that their purchases affect developer decisions and thus every player in the game.
Cash shops are a cancer that will only grow and metastasise if left unchecked.

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The paypigs in this game won't ever understand

If anything, the amount of merchandise in general seems to be rising. For example, I checked the lodestone and yet another two pieces of merchandise was announced. Namely these:

https://i.imgur.com/NMNYn92.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vEGhK5b.png

The latter isn't due until next April. Certainly, the Fan Fest is next week but these days it seems as if there's more focus on ensuring a steady stream of optional items are available as opposed to content for veteran players with staying power.

I'm not even necessarily against the existence of a cash shop - it's a necessarily evil these days for many companies in the pursuit of ever increasing profit. I just wish more of the money raised went back into the game itself and a greater variety of player tastes were catered to.

That being said, the game's been courting 'superfans' on social media and regularly sends them free merchandise for their collections that they then brag about to their audience during streams and claim the game and company is the bestest ever, so it certain seems to be working for them...

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

no wonder lots of people here post on alt. Probably have more cash shop mount than me on their main account

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To be fair, it's possible they received it as a gift from another player. I myself have quite a few cash-shop mounts and outfits, despite never having personally purchased any of them.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

To be fair, it's possible they received it as a gift from another player. I myself have quite a few cash-shop mounts and outfits, despite never having personally purchased any of them.

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My ex partner literally gifted me 50% of what I have personally including the most expensive stuff, the only one I would have bought myself is the whale because I think it's pretty cool and is also a 8 seater which is amazing, the rest is just blah

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

To be fair, it's possible they received it as a gift from another player. I myself have quite a few cash-shop mounts and outfits, despite never having personally purchased any of them.

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idk, grow a backbone and decline it?

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Originally Posted by Koros

I think u need to calm down, u ppl are way too easy to rile up lmao

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Actually I'm quite happy about it because I only checked 1 account and it's bingo

if only such luck can extend to my 400 grand company seal lootboxes.

This "Fanfest" feels more like Sqexfest since they're the one reaping (milking dry) all the best rewards from their players, money.

Their 10th anniversary and fanfest is just pure consumerist advertisement.

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

idk, grow a backbone and decline it?

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What would that accomplish (beside looking incredibly ungrateful)? Square Enix don't offer refunds.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

Don't like it? Don't buy it. It's optional. It only affects you if you willing to shell out the dough. Been playing this game for years and had a lot of fun with it. Never bought one thing.

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It does affect everyone.
It's called pushing the envelope.

Skyrim horse armour says hello. lol What's the arbitrary line we need to cross so you feel we can complain about it? £100? £1000? Go educate yourself, please.

Genuinely better content here than on Netflix, Prime, etc.,

Honestly, I expect our next expansion, you know the one where we are going to a whole new continent and it's supposed to be all new story that leaves behind the events of ARR and the following expansions, and we end up with recolors of previous armors for drops while mogshop gets a set of new glams.

That's.......that's just greedy.

Edit: in reference to the turntable. a $400 upcharge for stickers isn't worth it.

My issue isn't the cash shop. My issue is FFXIV and its lacking content.
Seasonal events are lackluster. A furniture and an orchestrion scroll/minion? No, thanks.
Jet Black or Pure White dyes are locked behind double RNG venture boxes. You either pay twice as much gil or buy that very convenient bundle from the cash shop.
Odd enough, it's easy to reuse assets every damn expansion, but it's difficult to add recolored cash shop mounts as ingame rewards.
Why do we not get more achievement rewards?

I dont mind buying one or 2 things from the cash shop. It's not a bad thing to support a company, if they do things right. But it's also not wrong to call out their shabby tactics. But hey, don't you want to buy these great, new virtual goodies, while we're having a limited anniversary sale?
10 years in and SE still can't afford to gift 1 more free retainer for everyone, ffs.

I don't mind a cash shop, especially when everything contained is just glamour. Reselling old event stuff and KR/CN exclusive stuff is fine.

However, I DO mind the fact they released like 5 things back to back within like a month. One of which absolutely positively 100% should have been in the game and fit thematically (Shadowkeeper as the BLU mount). Shadowkeeper in the cash shop right as BLU Eden released with NO REWARD was easily the scummiest thing they have ever done.

I don’t really agree that the coolest stuff is in the cash shop. Yes some cash shop stuff is cool, but the absolute coolest weapons/armor/mounts are still from ingame achievements. This is something the game actually strikes a nice balance on imo, as usually the cash shop stuff is more gimmicky or themed items. I will say that the best emotes come from the shop though but eh

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

I bought Subnautica 1 and 2 for about $20ish total during the last Steam sale, I've already sunk 26 hours (EDIT: pretty sure this number is inflated by me going afk at times but the real number is probably still a lot) into the first game and it's been great. Assuming the second game is as good as the first, I got two amazing games for about half of the full price of the new mount. I can't see how anyone finds that price tag justifiable.

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I have 350 hours in Subnautica. Amazing game. Below Zero is...good, but not my thing, unfortunately. I think it really would have made a better DLC. I absolutely agree with you on the price, though. You can get AAA titles on Steam for that amount of money when they go on sale. I grabbed Horizon: Zero Dawn and it's easily one of the best games I have ever played. I also got Baldur's Gate 3 for like 30 Euro when it was newly in EA. That game is going to be 200 hours per playthrough if you want to do every quest. Compared to stuff like this, a stupid two seater bike really isn't worth it.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Genuinely better content here than on Netflix, Prime, etc.,

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Netflix has the entire Ghibli catalog in there.

Also Philomena Cunk.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Netflix has the entire Ghibli catalog in there.

Also Philomena Cunk.

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Is TRUE! Netflix has all Ghibli shows. Mao give big thumbclaw ups!

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

What's the problem?

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When did I say there was one?

I actually don't mind store mounts and own some myself(the curse of being a mount collector >.<) but what's disappointing about this store mount and the last few is that they could've been used for content and given people more things to work towards.

For example
-Ceruleum Ballons, Magicked Parasol, Magicked Umbrella could've been craftable mounts where you need items from the Excitatron 6000 and The Shifting Gymnasion to make
-Shadow Wolf could've been the reward for completing Omega and Eden Savage as Blue Mage
-Garlond GL-IS could've been the reward for reaching rank 25 in Island Sanctuary for 100k cowries

I don't mind store mounts when they're something extra/deluxe that doesn't really fit into the game but when they feel like cut content is when it feels a bit much. Also, with less things to work towards, less people will remain subbed, which means less people to play and interact with which also sucks .__.

All the fans already spent so much to travel and attend the fanfest.

I don't think it's wise to shove all these microtransactions in their face again to buy buy buy all their overpriced crap.

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

All the fans already spent so much to travel and attend the fanfest.

I don't think it's wise to shove all these microtransactions in their face again to buy buy buy all their overpriced crap.

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And would you look at that, cool mounts on MogStation and ugly outfits from seasonal events :)

The new mount is terrible looking though. Mogstation can keep it. Normally I like buying the mounts but this one is shocking bad. A pass from me.

Hey, can't blame a company when plenty of people bought the cruise chaser mount. Any company would be more than happy to start squeezing at that point. lmao

The salt here is very entertaining, please go on.

In moderation having the odd mount be cash shop only isn't the final days some make it out to be, it's always been a thing and will be for better and for worse both. I have mixed feelings on it for sure!

Just, over the last couple years it's really gotten quite shameless to the point even Bobby Kotick himself would be smiling in glee.

In a time when one of the main gripes of EW content is the lack of meaningful grinds, meaningful rewards and goals, surely SOME of what's ended up in the cash shop could have been implemented to scratch that itch.

I cant help, im annoyed over all the good stuff that gets straight to the mogstation while beast tribe and ex trial stuff gets devalued at every mogtome... Like at least get that 4-5 exclusive mounts for that... not just the mogstation...

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Originally Posted by Hallideus

In a time when one of the main gripes of EW content is the lack of meaningful grinds, meaningful rewards and goals, surely SOME of what's ended up in the cash shop could have been implemented to scratch that itch.

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Fear not, they can add another 4543574 million gil or 8435473 fate gems locked mount xD