Most Hated XIV Character

Have people mentioned Valens van Varro yet?

I'm adding in Sicinius too. Just... Yeah no.

Valens was an abusive tyrant who tortured children.
Sicinius was a psychopatic scientist who tortured Hrothgars, hooked them into servant machines, and when his best test subject couldn't handle it anymore, he injected his memories onto other Hrothgar. And when THAT didn't stick, he took those Hrothgar and performed surgeries on them, disfiguring them into looking like the original test subject just so that the memories stuck.

Like, that's messed up. Valens is disgusting and not even his death was cathartic. The way he treated his subjects was horrible, but doing it to kids was just the absolute worst.
But Sicinius? That garbage got away scott-free. Lyon and Pagaga bust him out and he not only walks around freely, he has the original Bozjan weapons AND he's done the same to Hyurs. Turning THEM into someone else. And we're none the wiser, because it's all hush-hush. We never get to punch his teeth in. There was no justice like there "was" for Valens.

I can't help wonder how the characters mentioned in this thread - Scions or not - would feel reading all of this and seeing their friend/foe WoLs talking like this about them. Reactions would be funny to see, especially of the Scions. :D

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Have people mentioned Valens van Varro yet?

I'm adding in Sicinius too. Just... Yeah no.

Valens was an abusive tyrant who tortured children.
Sicinius was a psychopatic scientist who tortured Hrothgars, hooked them into servant machines, and when his best test subject couldn't handle it anymore, he injected his memories onto other Hrothgar. And when THAT didn't stick, he took those Hrothgar and performed surgeries on them, disfiguring them into looking like the original test subject just so that the memories stuck.

Like, that's messed up. Valens is disgusting and not even his death was cathartic. The way he treated his subjects was horrible, but doing it to kids was just the absolute worst.
But Sicinius? That garbage got away scott-free. Lyon and Pagaga bust him out and he not only walks around freely, he has the original Bozjan weapons AND he's done the same to Hyurs. Turning THEM into someone else. And we're none the wiser, because it's all hush-hush. We never get to punch his teeth in. There was no justice like there "was" for Valens.

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Guys like those two make me feel like it would probably be in the best interests of the Eorzean Alliance to make sure the remaining legions aren't letting any loonies conduct similar experiments over in the still occupied provinces.

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Originally Posted by Zer0

Alphinaud. God I wish I could get rid of that stupid Redditor. Then again, can we just go ahead and remove Elves entirely? The entire race needs to be eradicated from the face of the world. No elf is good. They're all stuck up self absorbed know it alls.

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gasp....heresy lol

Minfilia

There was the whole dynamic of her being my boss but she was really friendly and familiar with the WoL. On top of that she had her own connection with Hydaelyn, so I didn't know if Hydaelyn was trying to hook us up or something. I'm not interested lady. I just didn't know what she wanted from me and I was filled with anxiety every time she told me to return to the Waking Sands. I have to admit I breathed a sigh of relief when she was removed from the story.

Imo there are 3 main categories for "disliking" a character:

• A - the character is intentionally made to be dislikable: Asahi being a yandere, Fandaniel being Asahi with a Joker complex, Valens being a full blown psycopath, pretty much the entirety of Bozja...
  
  
• B - the narrative screw the character over: Yda being actually Lyse and becoming the front and center of the resistance despite Raubahn being right there, Y'shtola being a walking exposition device with nearly no personality, even Zenos may go here cuz I feel they didn't know what to do with that guy from the very beginning.
  
  
• C - the character is simply obnoxious or cringe, whether it was intentional or not: the constant infantilization of Lalafell characters like Tataru or Nanamo despite both being well into their 20's, or just about anyone in the Hildi questline.

easy, Hildibrand

Thordan for letting Charibert kill Vaindreau.

Zenos and Fandaniel for taking advantage of the civil war in Garlemald and destroying it in the process.

Golbez for letting his fiends feast on Azdaja’s aether.

Valens.

Asahi and Yotsuyu’s adoptive parents. Makes you wonder what she could’ve become if her biological parents were alive. Likely her Tsuyu self.


Also the Ala Mhigans who hurled rocks at Fordola and her family. Insufferable lot.

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Originally Posted by ElizanderNorisse

Thordan for letting Charibert kill Vaindreau.

Zenos and Fandaniel for taking advantage of the civil war in Garlemald and destroying it in the process.

Golbez for letting his fiends feast on Azdaja’s aether.

Valens.

Asahi and Yotsuyu’s adoptive parents. Makes you wonder what she could’ve become if her biological parents were alive. Likely her Tsuyu self.


Also the Ala Mhigans who hurled rocks at Fordola and her family. Insufferable lot.

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Okay and now we're discussing characters that you're actually supposed to despise because of their horrible actions in the story.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Okay and now we're discussing characters that you're actually supposed to despise because of their horrible actions in the story.

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And? The thread doesn’t specify if I should hate the protagonists only.

Can I expose the true villain of the story?

A horror that should never have existed.

A blight on the landscape.

A curse on all our eyesight.


Thanc's dodgy ponytail.


Here I am about to cut it off when he is not looking and/or is too drunk to notice.

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Gonna cut off that ponytail ...

I always cringe when people extoll the greatness of Hien. I mean seriously, Yotsuyu entire life of torture & pain was lived under his father's rule. When he got the chance, Hein absolved the very owner of the brothel Yotsuyu was sold to... Does this mean he also kept the Pleasure houses open?

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Originally Posted by Alacran

I always cringe when people extoll the greatness of Hien. I mean seriously, Yotsuyu entire life of torture & pain was lived under his father's rule. When he got the chance, Hein absolved the very owner of the brothel Yotsuyu was sold to... Does this mean he also kept the Pleasure houses open?

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Hey, maybe he wanted to provide reparations in the form of being a pleasure house worker himself?

Asahi for sure.

I hate Ystola, and I hate all the scions, I would like to be an adventurer instead of having these people following me, what I love about XI is that you meet new people all the time in your adventures, your not with the same people every expansion

also yeah, Shantotto is the poster child for XI but you don't see her everywhere in your face like Ystola is.

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Originally Posted by Taterway

Can I expose the true villain of the story?

A horror that should never have existed.

A blight on the landscape.

A curse on all our eyesight.


Thanc's dodgy ponytail.


Here I am about to cut it off when he is not looking and/or is too drunk to notice.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0924efb0f9.jpg
Gonna cut off that ponytail ...

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Okay, that Lala expression is just perfect! :D

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Originally Posted by Taterway

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Your Lala is so precious. :o

Yotsuyu, i just never liked how we were supposed to feel so sad for her oh so sad backstory despite the fact she was just as much as a murderous psychopath as the others. Hell you don't hear people crying and defending Nidhogg and he is in the same boat.

Zenos is the worst, least interesting character this game has ever produced. during Stormblood, He is a walking, talking suit of plot armor with no interesting qualities about him other than a stereotypically pretty male anime face.

after Stormblood, he is only slightly more interesting without his plot armor, but every scene he is in is hard carried by another character. Elidibus, Gauis/Estenien, Fandaniel, Alisaie.

by the end of Endwalker when he shows up again, I was just exasperated. like "this guy again?" the way all of you feel about having to see Wuk Lamat again, is how I felt about seeing Zenos again.

the last fight with him wasn't exciting or fun for me, it was "god, let's just get this over with".

The twins cause they are as boring as they look.

I want to say all Scion members—except for Tataru. Of course, if I have to pick just one, it's definitely Alphinaud. I know it's cheesy to pick him because of his supposed redemption arc, but I always felt he got away with all his crimes far too easily.

He brazenly used Scion funds to buy expensive goods and never paid back Tataru's debt. Nothing was confirmed, but we all know Tataru has something planned for him.

Yes, creating the Crystal Braves broke him, but it was his mistake, and it's hard to forgive that. What came next was worse. After failing to create a simple guild, he immediately jumped into playing politics—the absolute worst idea, considering they were just children! They traveled to a foreign land and accidentally got two civilians killed. Then came the trauma: Oh no, why are we here? We shouldn't be doing this! One minute later, they're negotiating with the opposition's commander, who then shoots himself because the twins didn't uphold their end of the bargain by our allies "rescuing" them. Huge lack of communication.

He comes from a rich family and has a grandfather who is a hero. I hate to say it, but he's just a spoiled nepobaby coming from a pretty isolated, first-world country who possesses a snobbish superiority complex and harbors lofty ideals of rescuing the more unfortunate "lesser" countries. He's nothing more than a foreign activist, and it's hard to not see that from my perspective lol. But that's my reason to hate him.

Haurchefant. Waste of space. Even the skeevy JP version was better than the EN version, but generally speaking, he is the epitome of boring. Arenvald is, too, but he doesn't have a crazy fanbase the way Haurchefant does.

Not a single character but Ascians in general.
It just got so old and boring by the end of Endwalker that anything and everything is related and caused by them.

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Originally Posted by 0blivion

Haurchefant. Waste of space. Even the skeevy JP version was better than the EN version, but generally speaking, he is the epitome of boring. Arenvald is, too, but he doesn't have a crazy fanbase the way Haurchefant does.

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The thing that annoys me the most about Haurchefant isn't even the character himself. He was just average, didn't hate him but wasn't losing my mind over him either.
What annoys me is that they keep bringing him back every chance they get, the man's been dead for years, let him rest.


As for my pick, there are honestly too many.
G'raha is definitely a top contender after they reduced him to the WoL fanboy.
Y'shtola has the personality of cardboard.
Wuk Lamat had the misfortune of being the story's protagonist...a story that was incredibly badly written, with more holes than swiss cheese in it. Wuk Lamat basically fails upwards for the entirety of 7.0.
Asahi is designed for you to hate him.

But currently Calyx is probably at the top of the list.
It's like someone watched Death Note, thought it was the best thing since sliced bread and then based an antagonist entirely around an insufferable anime character trope.

Since this threat was Necro'd and seems like people tiptoe around it...
I'm just gonna drive that jeep through the front door.

Wuk Lamat

Whiny, annoying, yapping, clingy, dumb Black Hole Sue.
Never before have I started skipping cutscenes but I did so frequently when it looked like a "people just talk cutscene" whenever Wuk Lamat opened her mouth.
She yapped on and on without providing anything to the story most of the time.

Then the universe bent around to make sure her asinine ideas or decisions somehow by sheer dumb luck are correct, or gained undeserved power ups.
Just like a nepotism hire she just failed upwards.

And bonus point:
The voice acting in EN was so unbearable that I had to switch to a different language, but switched back to EN as the more interesting parts of DT happened and I wanted to not miss things.
I shouldn't have had tho cause I was hit full force with the "Speeeen, lissun tu mih...." scene due to that.

There were other characters I disliked and before DT I may have had to list a few cuz they were so close together for me.
But Wuk Lamat in DT blew it not only out the water, she obliterated the entire seashore.

So yeah, my most hated character by continents is Wuk Lamat.

Wandering Minstrel - He don't look like Naoki Yoshida to being with.

I don't understand a single song he sang LOL!

Right now it's definitely Calyx for me. I can't stand the anime trope of a cool, collected, emotionless super-genius brat... and I'm really not looking forward to having to deal with more of him in upcoming content. Finally got me excited about eliminating the brat only to then show he's tied in with Ascians, which means we got another annoying Fandaniel all over again.

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Originally Posted by ViinaS

Since this threat was Necro'd and seems like people tiptoe around it...
I'm just gonna drive that jeep through the front door.

Wuk Lamat

Whiny, annoying, yapping, clingy, dumb Black Hole Sue.
Never before have I started skipping cutscenes but I did so frequently when it looked like a "people just talk cutscene" whenever Wuk Lamat opened her mouth.
She yapped on and on without providing anything to the story most of the time.

Then the universe bent around to make sure her asinine ideas or decisions somehow by sheer dumb luck are correct, or gained undeserved power ups.
Just like a nepotism hire she just failed upwards.

And bonus point:
The voice acting in EN was so unbearable that I had to switch to a different language, but switched back to EN as the more interesting parts of DT happened and I wanted to not miss things.
I shouldn't have had tho cause I was hit full force with the "Speeeen, lissun tu mih...." scene due to that.

There were other characters I disliked and before DT I may have had to list a few cuz they were so close together for me.
But Wuk Lamat in DT blew it not only out the water, she obliterated the entire seashore.

So yeah, my most hated character by continents is Wuk Lamat.

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This 100% my vote for the worst 14 character

Wuklamat. She is poorly written and cringe.

It used to be Zenos, who was an edgelord in SB and became another annoyance in EW as he could just have been removed and the story would have stayed the exact same, but Calyx now seriously takes the cake for me. I can't stand his anime trope.

Graha all the way. He's an absolute candy man.

Alphinaud and Estinien...

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Originally Posted by Incarna

Hildibrand. Had to scene-skip the last two cases because I couldn't take it anymore.

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Will confess that I have, over time, come to feel much the same way. Whilst I'll acknowledge that this is subjective. I'm personally not a fan of him and feel I like him less and less as time goes on.

Because it's always the same routines over and over - he gets pounded into a wall or the ground (and spends 30 seconds trying to get out), he strikes the same poses, does the same dances, Godbert appears and runs around in his underpants for the 200th time - even the bombs are boring now. The gags were funny the first time - they're not the 5th time in the same quest.
And don't even get me started on Nashu's stalker being played off for laughs!

I know that repetition itself is supposed to be part of the joke - but that in itself can be grating rather than amusing for some people once the novelty wears off.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Will confess that I have, over time, come to feel much the same way. Whilst I'll acknowledge that this is subjective. I'm personally not a fan of him and feel I like him less and less as time goes on.

Because it's always the same routines over and over - he gets pounded into a wall or the ground (and spends 30 seconds trying to get out), he strikes the same poses, does the same dances, Godbert appears and runs around in his underpants for the 200th time - even the bombs are boring now. The gags were funny the first time - they're not the 5th time in the same quest.
And don't even get me started on Nashu's stalker being played off for laughs!

I know that repetition itself is supposed to be part of the joke - but that in itself can be grating rather than amusing for some people once the novelty wears off.

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Having always been pretty neutral about Hildi in terms of character and comedy, but also agreeing with you completely that this got old as soon as HW Hildi happened since we immediately fell back into the same tropes, I must admit that in the first time in this questline, I actually do enjoy a character and it's Hardiboiled. He's bringing something fresh and new for once, and the caricature of the noir genre genuinely amuse me.
Perhaps with luck we'll get other reflections of him in the next series to come so that we don't always fall back to the same antics.

For me Wuk Lamat just can't stand her, and Nero sure didn't care for either of them.

Estinien used to be cool, then he turned into a meme joke character.

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Originally Posted by Gullis

Estinien used to be cool, then he turned into a meme joke character.

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Pretty much how I felt about G'raha, seemed admirable pre-shadowbringers and then from EW+ he just turned into a visual novel simp tier of a character.

But as for now, my immediate thought of as the worst character is obviously going to be the 10 year old ipad kid genius.

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Originally Posted by Sunhwapark

Pretty much how I felt about G'raha, seemed admirable pre-shadowbringers and then from EW+ he just turned into a visual novel simp tier of a character.

But as for now, my immediate thought of as the worst character is obviously going to be the 10 year old ipad kid genius.

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yea I agree about G'raha too.

-Bakool Ja Ja who for me got away too easily with what he did in the MSQ. Release a powerful world ending monster to delay his opponent? Kidnap them? Just being an asshole in general? Nah it's okay he's sorry he was doing it for his people and the children they lost.

-The WAR questline characters. God they were so annoying

-That one dude with glasses in the MNK questline. I can't bother to remember his name but he's always acting like everyone else around him is stupid and it was so annoying

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Originally Posted by Valence

Having always been pretty neutral about Hildi in terms of character and comedy, but also agreeing with you completely that this got old as soon as HW Hildi happened since we immediately fell back into the same tropes, I must admit that in the first time in this questline, I actually do enjoy a character and it's Hardiboiled. He's bringing something fresh and new for once, and the caricature of the noir genre genuinely amuse me.
Perhaps with luck we'll get other reflections of him in the next series to come so that we don't always fall back to the same antics.

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Agreed.

I usually let the Hildibrand cutscenes play out without paying them much attention to be honest since they, as described, always follow the same, painfully predictable, pattern. Hardiboiled did make the more recent ones tolerable though.