The great streamer Asmongold is joining FFXIV

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Why does SE need to welcome WoW streamers? Not like they are any more Special then a Wildstar or ESO player.
And people more then like Asmond, the fact you think people are 'trying convince themselves and others that he's nothing special.' tells me you think he is.
And he's not...he's a guy that plays games and talks about things like....I dont even know how many other people.

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My point flew so high above you, it reached floor 100 of HoH. The point was that Asmongold is special and his name does have a weight that SE would respond to his tweet. Other streamers don't come close to him, hence why SE won't bother welcoming them. If he wasn't anyone special as you all are trying to convince yourselves, then why did SE welcome him?

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Why does SE need to welcome WoW streamers? Not like they are any more Special then a Wildstar or ESO player.

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They don't need do anything but fact is Asmond to my knowledge is only WoW streamer that got their attention (though let be fair, it's a cheap PR move on SE end). Also Wildstar? Lol

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

They don't need do anything but fact is Asmond to my knowledge is only WoW streamer that got their attention (though let be fair, it's a cheap PR move on SE end). Also Wildstar? Lol

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Hey, that article everyone waves around showing that FFXIV surpassed WoW said Wildstar also had 20k active players! Show some respect to the old guard! /s


SE reaching out to Asmon was an easy PR move. It worked, since it got people talking about it.

If SE is in general looking for YouTube opportunities, might I suggest Viva La Dirt - they do fairly well at consistently making videos that go mil view plus and have some overlap in the mmo community given some of their videos are inspired by WoW (but they've done other games, and non-game related content).

Link for reference: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lbJ51AJuR7E&vl=en

Their Dark Souls videos is funny.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

This community has what I would consder its own brand of toxicity. Even so, it is only at about half strength compared to WoW and other games. Overall this community is great, but there's a darker side that isn't always evident. It is just hidden better. lol

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You don’t know what you’re talking about simply because ToS doesn’t allow them to walk around freely. They here tho. Don’t be confused lol

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Their Dark Souls videos is funny.

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Very haha, watching some of it felt like playing the game.

Treasure ahead!..


LIES!!! Lol

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

You don’t know what you’re talking about simply because ToS doesn’t allow them to walk around freely. They here tho. Don’t be confused lol

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We just send death threats and dox and keep most toxicity out of SE’s channels

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Originally Posted by WoW

My point flew so high above you, it reached floor 100 of HoH. The point was that Asmongold is special and his name does have a weight that SE would respond to his tweet. Other streamers don't come close to him, hence why SE won't bother welcoming them. If he wasn't anyone special as you all are trying to convince yourselves, then why did SE welcome him?

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I dont need to convince myself he is nothing special...he simply isn't. For some reason you think he is, and you want to convince me because he got tweeted at? lol

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

They don't need do anything but fact is Asmond to my knowledge is only WoW streamer that got their attention (though let be fair, it's a cheap PR move on SE end). Also Wildstar? Lol

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They dont need Asmondgold for PR. If anything its a good meme that Asmond made it clear that he wasn't interested in FFXIV, but not he's suddenly willing to try it. So...lol Welcome Asmond.
Wildstar is just to name a game. I could have said Blackdesert, Runescape, FNAF or Outerworlds and it would have the same effect; the point is you play games, and it doesn't matter what kind of game you play.

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

You don’t know what you’re talking about simply because ToS doesn’t allow them to walk around freely. They here tho. Don’t be confused lol

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I know exactly what I'm talking about. Sort of comes with being here for the entirety of the game so far. Good luck though on your future efforts!

Anyone refusing to see the gatekeepers, death threats, doxxing need to look no further than here and other huge YouTubers that disliked the game.

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

We just send death threats and dox and keep most toxicity out of SE’s channels

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Are you quoting yourself on purpose or forgetting to switch accounts? It's kinda weird....


Also, the vast, vast majority of the games players do not send death threats or condone it. It amuses me that you guys keep hounding on that, like all of us were secretly in on it or something. I'd never even heard of either of the mentioned streamers until people posted about it here.

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

Anyone refusing to see the gatekeepers, death threats, doxxing need to look no further than here and other huge YouTubers that disliked the game.

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Not refusing to see any of it. In fact, I acknowledged that these things happened. They just aren't an accurate reflection of the entire community.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

If SE is in general looking for YouTube opportunities, might I suggest Viva La Dirt - they do fairly well at consistently making videos that go mil view plus and have some overlap in the mmo community given some of their videos are inspired by WoW (but they've done other games, and non-game related content).

Link for reference: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lbJ51AJuR7E&vl=en

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WHAT ARE WE!? WE'RE MUGGERS!!

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

I dont need to convince myself he is nothing special...he simply isn't. For some reason you think he is, and you want to convince me because he got tweeted at? lol

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Go get 2M followers on twitch then rofl. It's nothing special! So everyone should be able to do it!

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I know exactly what I'm talking about. Sort of comes with being here for the entirety of the game so far. Good luck though on your future efforts!

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You’re in a small bubble then. Enjoy that life

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

You’re in a small bubble then. Enjoy that life

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Nope. Try again. Actually, please don't.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Are you quoting yourself on purpose or forgetting to switch accounts? It's kinda weird....


Also, the vast, vast majority of the games players do not send death threats or condone it. It amuses me that you guys keep hounding on that, like all of us were secretly in on it or something. I'd never even heard of either of the mentioned streamers until people posted about it here.

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Again the tiny bubble you live in represents your views. Not majority

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

Again the tiny bubble you live in represents your views. Not majority

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The irony here is real.

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

Anyone refusing to see the gatekeepers, death threats, doxxing need to look no further than here and other huge YouTubers that disliked the game.

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1 guy does a death threat and the entire FF14 community is toxic insane people.

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

Again the tiny bubble you live in represents your views. Not majority

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Does that not apply to you also? The tiny bubble you seem to be in is "streamers who dislike the game, and people who hate the game"

I've been playing XIV since 2010. I have completed over 10k duties. I can count the number of bad experiences I've had on both hands. And most of those were just... 1 player, not "systemically toxic community that hides it cuz tos"

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

Again the tiny bubble you live in represents your views. Not majority

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And yet you are the voice of the majority?

Know*** phone thinks it knows what I want typed lol

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Originally Posted by WoW

Go get 2M followers on twitch then rofl. It's nothing special! So everyone should be able to do it!

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Ah, thats why you think he's so special. Because of his number of Followers.
Plenty of girls and guys on Instagram and twitter have about that much if not more Followers and subscribers.
So I guess to you they are all special as well and we need to treat them as such.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

It is often considered the peak of WoW. It featured one of the most loved villains of the franchise (the Lich King/Arthas), and had one of the best raids (Ulduar). It did have more content than ShB, sadly.

I just remember it also being when WoW boasted it's highest sub count, not unlike ShB. Here's with all fingers crossed and a lucky rabbits paw that SE doesn't drop a Cata on us.

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Retrospectively its considered the peak of WoW -- back then people had laundry list of reasons to dislike it. Its like how people view Mists now in comparison to when it was current.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Does that not apply to you also? The tiny bubble you seem to be in is "streamers who dislike the game, and people who hate the game"

I've been playing XIV since 2010. I have completed over 10k duties. I can count the number of bad experiences I've had on both hands. And most of those were just... 1 player, not "systemically toxic community that hides it cuz tos"

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You’ve either ignored the issues unfolding in front of you or you’re blind to it.

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

You’ve either ignored the issues unfolding in front of you or you’re blind to it.

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I take everything said on the forums with a grain of salt because about half the active posters on here at the moment are 1 guy with a bunch of alt accounts used to troll so....

And #k duties doesn’t give you any more of a broad view than Vahlnir. Like I said earlier nobody talks in game for most part to strangers

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Originally Posted by Y2K21

Retrospectively its considered the peak of WoW -- back then people had laundry list of reasons to dislike it. Its like how people view Mists now in comparison to when it was current.

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So, just like ShB in some respects there, eh? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

And #k duties doesn’t give you any more of a broad view than Vahlnir. Like I said earlier nobody talks in game for most part to strangers

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So I'm supposed to go out of it? I don't use Twitter. I'm not on Facebook. I don't watch youtubers or streamers for this game.

And those communities are toxic everywhere. That is not a XIV issue.


That's like saying everyone on Balmung is an RPer, (or was, it may have changed since 2017 when I left idk), or every raider is an elitist, or every casual is a bad player, etc.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

I take everything said on the forums with a grain of salt because about half the active posters on here at the moment are 1 guy with a bunch of alt accounts used to troll so....

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And that’s maybe the narrowest view you can have. Because one guy made a bunch of troll accounts, thus anything said here is just trolling in your brain

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

And #k duties doesn’t give you any more of a broad view than Vahlnir. Like I said earlier nobody talks in game for most part to strangers

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Strange, all of those players I see conversing in every chat available at all hours must be robots or NPCs. Clearly this is the case since this game totally isn't an MMO. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

And that’s maybe the narrowest view you can have. Because one guy made a bunch of troll accounts, thus anything said here is just trolling in your brain

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That's not what I said at all.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Strange, all of those players I see conversing in every chat available must be robots or NPCs. Clearly this is the case since this game totally isn't an MMO. :rolleyes:

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Moving less and less from mmo. And yes emotes are a series of codes that amounts to a robot response.

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

Moving less and less from mmo. And yes emotes are a series of codes that amounts to a robot response.

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You and your narrow views are actually starting to provide me with some entertainment. That's not an easy accomplishment. Well done.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

That's not what I said at all.

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Scroll up to see exactly what you said

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Ah, thats why you think he's so special. Because of his number of Followers.
Plenty of girls and guys on Instagram and twitter have about that much if not more Followers and subscribers.
So I guess to you they are all special as well and we need to treat them as such.

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I said Twitch. I didn't say instagram or Twitter. You know, you shouldn't rely on creating strawmen just to respond. Just admit you're jealous of him and be done with it.

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

Scroll up to see exactly what you said

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I said I take everything with a grain of salt. Not "I think everyone is a troll"

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

You and your narrow views are actually starting to provide me with some entertainment. That's not an easy accomplishment. Well done.

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Congrats you’ve now made it to asmon’s chat’s level of intelligence.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

So, just like ShB in some respects there, eh? :rolleyes:

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Depends on Endwalker -- but I would consider Shadowbringers like Wrath at the current moment.

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Originally Posted by WoW

I said Twitch. I didn't say instagram or Twitter. You know, you shouldn't rely on creating strawmen just to respond. Just admit you're jealous of him and be done with it.

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Played wow like for a month. Watch his chat for the hilarity. I’m happy with my own life lol.