SE, can we get a datacenter in NA that has a barrier for entry? I don't want to be on Aether anymore.
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SE, can we get a datacenter in NA that has a barrier for entry? I don't want to be on Aether anymore.
Yep. Very happy actually! I do the mechanics, save my party members and have a grand ol time. I complain that people have the nerve to tell others how they should play and what the "bare minimum" is. Lovely of you, well them since you say you don't even run DR, to think of others and so put in the effort to always use the essence. But don't act like a martyr for doing something I never asked you to do in the first place. They opt to do something themselves and then proceed to bitch that others do not do the same. Nobody is under any obligation to match the gil they put in, the time they put into farming clusters etc. If they want a group they know DOES match that level of effort they are available. Shaming others for having a nice time is a douche move. Just because they are in a rush does not mean the rest of us are.
Personally, I just can't wrap my head around someone NOT wanting a fast run through DR. That seems to be the case with you. In an MMO, time is the most valuable currency we have to spend. DR is one heck of a time sink. I get that you want to chill and have fun, and that's fine, but why are you so vehemently opposed to contributing a bit more to your group? I'd hate to see someone politely offer you job rotation advice, if this is any indication as to how things will go.
The problem that you don't understand that content like DR requires a lot of focus in order to keep track of what's going on around. The longer you spend time on killing stuff, the longer you have to stay focused. In a long run it is very exhausting.
Essences are a free damage buff that would change nothing in terms of your gameplay, but will decrease the time you need to clear a duty, AKA the faster it dies, the less mechanics it uses, the easier it is for you.
*But it's just a game* just doesn't work nowadays with how much people invest into gaming. You and me can play the same game but enjoy different stuff within it. I enjoy giving my best in whatever content I do, you enjoy... well, whatever you enjoy.
The effort part that you want to cover as *life and death* can be translated into simple respect for those who you got into a party and their time. Not everyone can spend hours to play because of their own reasons. And from here I can reverse your point of gathering 23 people back at you by saying just go get 23 people and run it as slow as you want.
You say you don't have time to farm essences yet you have time to run DR for hours. Doesn't add up here.
You owe nothing to anyone but respect of their time if you run with randoms. If you just want to stay lazy and just sit on everyone else's back, please stay away from group content, it is disrespectful.
When I was actively trying to farm clusters for the emotes it could take a long long time before I even got a group for it. I joined a discord with the purpose of finding groups more easily and they really were not posted very often and never at a time I was free. I think I would be ready to shoot myself trying to do that solo, yikes. I have done plenty castrum runs, I have done plenty DR runs and I still have very few essences. I ran out of Cure 4's now as often we end up without a healer the runs I dare to not heal myself.
People like you should stay away from group content. The less players with your mindset come to DF or PF, the faster runs will get. No offense. "Why should I care for anyone if no one cares about me!" - it all always starts with You. If YOU start using essences and bring effort, others will too.
I am sure he/she does a fine job. I am sure they do their job rotation as do I and if I don't play a class as much then I will go and learn. Everyone has a play style some want to go fast, others like to take their time. Just the thing that shows is how most people try to dictate to others how they play a certain piece of content. At the end of the day its a small piece of content. Besides this I go do map parties, mount farms etc I am not painstakingly grinding Bozja all day I run a few runs then go do other stuff.
it's not disrepectful at all. I allot myself enough time to run this and that if I go do something outside of that then it takes more time. I don't mind if I have to stay focus I have a lot of patience that is what I am saying. So if your saying that those people that don't have time and need to rush it. Then shouldn't they manage their time to do so like find a group of like minded individuals? Welcome to the human world where everyone has different agendas and playstyles. I mean I just got my weapon yesterday with no muss or fuss why can't people be like that then....this.
Sure time is important in an MMO, but when you play like that all the time it stops being a fun pass time and becomes a job. I grinded my butt off in BDO to keep up with my hardcore PvP guild, then the buggers changed pvp but that is neither here nor there..
I doubt you have read every one of my posts so I will say this. I am not vehemently against someone doing more at all. I use essences if I have them to spare but I am not gonna go out of my way to get them, simple as that. And I am not going to grovel and apologise to someone who feels slighted I have not done so. I have not asked anyone to use essences to speed up my runs.
As for job advice, when I wanted to get better and get that glorious orange dps I went to the balance, read up all the guides etc. When I want to 'try hard' I can. I would love to do more savage but I simply cannot commit to any schedule for such because as said in a previous post, I have work, studies, a high energy dog and an elder to care for. You don't need to tell me that time can be hard to come by. Hence I am not gonna sit in the zone shouting for a cluster farm that usually nobody responds to, I will not spend the gil I am trying to save either. It's not fun for me. I play to have fun. I'm not afking, I'm not doing douchey pulls to cause wipes. I am simply playing to enjoy myself. Not rushing to meet another persons timetable.
So many people in this thread are crying about carrying people like myself, I could clear without them using the essences. I did not ask them to spend their gil or go and farm. If you chose to do something for your own benefit don't cry at me for not doing the same. First and foremost you are using those essences to help yourself, you want the faster run. The fact it is speeding it up for others too is secondary. I am being preached too as if I am so awful for not caring for others time.. as if they are not doing such things for their own benefit, not mine.
"If I'm okay with it, others should be too"
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People have different lives and reasons as why they have limited time on things. If you never think of this, you're kinda selfish.
You don't have to farm Bozja to get clusters though, you can just... Spend some of the gil you got from maps to buy clusters. Do roulettes. Sell ex fight mats. Craft if you got that leveled. The game throws gil at your face and especially if you had the time to reach rank 10 in Bozja and run DR I'd be surprised if you never got something worth a million or two from the boxes.
I mostly ran fates and CE's all the way to 15, only doing CLL and DR to unlock relic steps. After cashing in everything I had about 5 usable essences. Never tried specifically farming clusters, but with how little I had after running Bozja for days I can't imagine you'll be able to farm enough for all the essences you'll ever need in under an hour; even with a dedicated group.
lol no, sorry but that's really not how it works.
That's your only response? Sorry to say, the world does not work like that. What a clown I would be to work my ass off and always expect someone else to make a similar effort. There are one's who can work work work and get nowhere, they are the worker bees a company will work to death without thanks, but the lazy one who was clever about it gets ahead.
I never asked if anyone cares about me, I do not expect them too. There is the difference between us. I am not going to demand a group of people do something they find boring and unenjoyable just to save me ten minutes. I have the realistic view that people play this to have fun, so long as they are not totally afk and griefing it's no business of mine how they play and I cannot expect them to play how I would like.
If I go into a party finder that is doing speed runs, then I will do what is required to make said speed run efficient. Otherwise? I'll do as I please, thanks. "People like you" smh you know it's not a good response if a sentence ever starts like that lmao
Other people don't base their decisions on what they see you doing. I'd imagine most people in DF DR don't even notice whether or not you've used an essence.
The people on the forums just thoroughly enjoy being angry, but they don't represent the majority of the community. Most people in DR likely can't even be bothered to make a mental note of who's using what.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't expect anyone to click on every person to see if they used buffs or not, I am not that dense.
I just don't see a reason why one wouldn't want to save THEIR OWN time by just having an essence up especially since you need to farm so much for this relic. It's literally a free damage.
the sheer entitlement of certain people about imposing their playstyle - or lack thereof - onto others and being proud of it is astounding
"babyrage" and whatnot, like, aren't YOU the one whining for several posts now because people call you what you are; lazy and selfish and unwilling to even put in a modicum of the teeny tiniest bit of effort that is pressing a button to get activate the essence?
quoting myself here, but;
heck, it takes even less than 5 (five/fünf/cinco/cinq/cinque) minutes if you can play the class you're using somewhat well, which I don't! and I still got tonnes of essences from about 12 (t w e l v e) minutes of """"work"""" that will last me for a long time
you're just f-ing lazy and want to be pat on the back of it, don't deny it
Hmmm...
A house, which is at best a place to get a few easy mats for low gil and repair gear and so you can roleplay that you have a house... versus making the experience better for 20+ players a run in an online game... Which is the most incredibly egotistical decision?
I have not given this game the time of day since arr was new. what are essences and why are they required? I'm trying to move away from wow and wow classic here but would hate to know they have the equivalent of world quests for rep/power/required consumables here as well.
If you just join a duty and play as you like, you're not "imposing" a thing. On the other hand saying to people they must use an essence IS imposing. I myself have not been whining because anyone has called me lazy, selfish or unwilling. Call me whatever you want, doesn't matter to me I will still play the same. As I have said before you will get no apology from me :)
I could not care less about a pat on the back from you or any other random in this thread. Don't attribute where you get your self worth from to me or others. Good for you you went and farmed, aren't you such an angel! Here have your pat on the back.
During my cluster farm I ended up with a couple hundred fragments of different varieties, the vast majority of which were actions and not essences. And even then, plenty are for tanks and I don't tend to tank that often for casual content. So yes, you're babyraging at others for not doing what you want. I am just pointing out you are basically screaming into the void for all the good it will do you. Nobody is changing for you.
Can't speak for Primal but Crystal is even worse.
You'd have to play on JP Datacenters, and avoid Elemental specifically, to have a better experience. And even then it's not fool-proof, just that they're raised in a culture of respecting other people's time so there are far less openly entitled players there in my exp.
Ahaha yeah lemme just sell my large house to benefit 20 randoms.. hmm no? I worked for the gil and the house. You put no value in what a house can give to someone, but a house can be a centre for a community, for many it is the whole reason that keeps them subbed.
Which is the most incredibly egotistical, expecting a total stranger to give up something important to them which they enjoy for YOU or letting them enjoy a game and you mind your own business? HMMMM hard choice that one.
So is food, but people will likely be displeased by people not fooding in appropriate content, and the impact food has on our DPS doesn't even begin to compare to the impact essences have.
bruh... you don't need 100mil+ to buy essences... no one is asking you to sell your house... we're asking to spend either a few minutes or a few pennies to save a lot of time for 24 people lmfao
Also as soon as you get matched with them, the way you play affects them and therefore becomes their business as well.
This isn't a good argument. ONE PERSON in the run using an essence doesn't "save a lot of time." You people keep taking the difference between EVERYONE using an essence and NO ONE using an essence, then applying it to a situation where ONE PERSON is saying they aren't using essences.
Me popping an essence isn't the difference between a 45 minute run and a 20 minute run, it's the difference between a 45 minute run and maybe a 43 minute run. It's not going to make a difference that anyone in the run will really care about, but the time I spend farming or the gil I spend on the market board will make a difference to me.
So, instead of severely hurting 23 other people, like in your fantasy scenario, what I'm actually doing is being like .01% of a large scale problem that's completely beyond my ability to fix anyways...
Yea, I'm fine with that. If you want to throw your time and gil into a bottomless pit in order to pay lip-service to a problem that's WAY beyond your scope then have fun, but don't try to force that onto everyone.
To what did I owe these 7 new pages of bad choices & regrets since I left it? ;)
They already stated that they’re simply not going to bother with it. Even LittleImp had linked them to a short video of how -easy- to farm those frags in other past thread & they remain where they are.
Let them be... lol /shrug
A couple of players doing significantly more dps than everyone else does greatly shorten a run. And thats only a couple, if a party is doing things correctly the difference is even more significant. If all 24 are, well that's a 15 minute run.
I just wish they’d admit that they’re just too lazy and entitled to spend 15 minutes farming fragments of skill right outside the bozja gate. I’m a solo player. I don’t grab packs of mobs and aoe them to death. I kill maybe 5 or 6, get like 4 frags of skill, and I’m done. And it STILL is enough for me to make an impact in CEs, fates, etc. I havent even TOUCHED DR and I know that by the time I do (since Im rank 11 right now) I’ll have more than enough to make even a small impact. I regularly have essence of the martialist on hand - a 60% Damage boost? sign me up!