I was issued a warning no info given. Thought our party finder issues were resolved?

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Originally Posted by van_arn

The gm was responding to a report another player filed. It’s not baseless; they just didn’t share the base with you.

Nor are they under any obligation to do so.

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They should be required to tell you what ToS you are breaking. It would be like you put in jail.
Police: You're arrested!
Me: Why? What have I done?
Police: You know. Now get rekt.

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

They should be required to tell you what ToS you are breaking. It would be like you put in jail.
Police: You're arrested!
Me: Why? What have I done?
Police: You know. Now get rekt.

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They tell you the clause or at the very least hint to it in the brief conversation where you're dealt your punishment and then another time when you've been sent an email. You just need to be able to reflect on your own actions, is all. Besides, you agreed the Terms of Service which specifies that if they so wish they can suspend or terminate your account for any or no reason at all.

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Originally Posted by Resurrection_three_three

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Preach! Let them listen to the teachings of section 3.3.

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Originally Posted by hydralus

Something around $2 an hour I think.

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Not trying to argue in favor of RMT or anything but if they're already doing the work wouldn't it be more effective to say start an OF or something like that and then you know exchange some currency <_<;

Some people really don't value their time/work I guess! lol

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

They tell you the clause or at the very least hint to it in the brief conversation where you're dealt your punishment and then another time when you've been sent an email. You just need to be able to reflect on your own actions, is all. Besides, you agreed the Terms of Service which specifies that if they so wish they can suspend or terminate your account for any or no reason at all.

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In this case, OP seemed to not done anything to break 3.3 or whatever section was brought up. That's really concerning if you are getting punished for done something but won't be notified specifically what you did so you can't improve and not repeat the offence (if any)

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

In this case, OP seemed to not done anything to break 3.3 or whatever section was brought up. That's really concerning if you are getting punished for done something but won't be notified specifically what you did so you can't improve and not repeat the offence (if any)

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There's no evidence to support that their ban was or wasn't specified barring the effective "trust me, will you" - Since my memory recalls this specific situation is related to a Night Club advertisement. With this in mind I would hazard to guess their ban reason in email was quoted to be:

"3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language. You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly.". Soliciting mature advertisements on the party finder violates this clause. At least I would imagine so. I don't agree with targeting them relentlessly as people have been as it could constitute harassment. But the simple fact of the matter the interpretation is there and in no uncertain terms.

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

In this case, OP seemed to not done anything to break 3.3 or whatever section was brought up. That's really concerning if you are getting punished for done something but won't be notified specifically what you did so you can't improve and not repeat the offence (if any)

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The same conversation OP had with the GM was posted in a more recent thread. OP runs a club that offers ERP services for gil. They post their carrd in the PFs they make. This breaks 3.3 and OP knows exactly why they were pulled into gaol, they just thought that having things listed on an outside website would not be able to be able to be reviewed by a GM. Which they would probably be right about...if they didn’t put the link in-game themselves.

OP was deliberately playing innocent and leaving out information to try to garner sympathy/outrage.

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Originally Posted by BunniEclair

The same conversation OP had with the GM was posted in a more recent thread. OP runs a club that offers ERP services for gil. They post their carrd in the PFs they make. This breaks 3.3 and OP knows exactly why they were pulled into gaol, they just thought that having things listed on an outside website would not be able to be able to be reviewed by a GM. Which they would probably be right about...if they didn’t put the link in-game themselves.

OP was deliberately playing innocent and leaving out information to try to garner sympathy/outrage.

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Oh. I feel bit silly now

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Oh. I feel bit silly now

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Nah, don’t. They intentionally made it seem like they had no idea what they did/ had done nothing wrong. Can’t blame you for your heart being in the right place!

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Originally Posted by Awha

Yeah, we have a guild mate that allegedly gets upwards of 250k for a 30 min session via text and 1mil for voice.

I say allegedly cause it sounds weird but they do have a private discord channel and it is FFXIV so not much shocks me.

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Frankly, if someone is adding a voice performance, there are better avenues for that. Where they can make more, real money.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Frankly, if someone is adding a voice performance, there are better avenues for that. Where they can make more, real money.

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People enjoy what they want and have some weird hobbies. What can I say.

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Originally Posted by BunniEclair

Nah, don’t. They intentionally made it seem like they had no idea what they did/ had done nothing wrong. Can’t blame you for your heart being in the right place!

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Originally Posted by Lauren

Also typing 18+ doesn't stop minors interacting with them and imagine how horrified anyone would be if it turned out they were engaging in semi sexual or fully sexual RP with a minor?

But honestly, people only really request one thing and it's that ERPers keep it on Discord and in private DMs/Private parties and out of PF/Shout Chat/Say Chat etc. Just head onto discord if needs be if you're looking for a in-game "venue" to do it.

Honestly, the more we weed out the open advertisement of ERP the easier life normal RPers will have in game.

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It doesn't but if let say someone's mother or father caught wind to little Jimmy role playing as an 21 year old girl and now someone wants to press charges the fact there will be a transcript looking you were looking to play with someone who is an adult counts.

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Originally Posted by Vaern

This isn't about RP, ERP or anything about sex offenders ?! Did you even read the previous post to see what we were talking about ? Or do you just enjoy taking something out of context and interpreting it the way you want ?

I've been simply poking at the fact that some FC are only recruiting 18+ people for reasons I find ridiculous such as : teenagers aren't as mature/sociable/interesting as adults.

Kudos for your imagination but please don't make me say things I never did. You're crazy if you think I said or implied that age didn't matter for anything sex related.

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And that's why people like you get caught up with the law with some bad charges. Again, you are talking to someone who has worked with child sex offenders. Regardless of the reason why they choose to keep it an AO community there is a positive effect it shows they are trying not to engage with underage minors.

Also keep in mind something does not have to involve sex for you to get a child sex offense charge. There is a whole bunch of charges that are out there.

Trying to keep child out of adult conversations is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by hydralus

I suppose it makes them feel safer to engage with someone in a place advertised for adults than one that isn't. Granted the firmest solution to that would be not engaging in a flirtatious/erotic manner at all, but human nature's a bitch. Just look at how the forums were screeching like banshees because it took them a week to get their 2B ass.

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So when you have a State's Attorney charging you with a crime and you can tell them to check the logs to show you were not engaging with child and actively avoiding them that does a lot to help you out if something were to happen to you.

Adult's should be able to stay with adults and children should be separate.

Same reason why we shouldn't put 18 year old convicts in a nursing home because they use it as a halfway house for profits and bunk that person with a 79 year old man or woman with dementia. Your asking for trouble

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Originally Posted by Awha

Yeah, we have a guild mate that allegedly gets upwards of 250k for a 30 min session via text and 1mil for voice.

I say allegedly cause it sounds weird but they do have a private discord channel and it is FFXIV so not much shocks me.

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I remember when a lady sold her self for a flying mount in WoW on craigslist back in the day.